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JustaObserver
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | I like him but given we got Luka and AR I’m guessing we have seen the last of him in a Laker jersey. |
When AR point production went belly up in the playoffs....yeah lets not give Dalton a burn...real "Minding the Game" Genius,,,,lol. How much that Lakers bench scored again in the Playoffs? Yeahhh i really hope he goes because that would be soooo "Minding the Game" IQ!!! Just like putting in Kiebler in instead of Hayes....making Gobert a FREAKING ALLSTAR!!
OYeah if you go back in those playoff threads ALOT of screaming about TOs? Seem like they need another PG to actually handle the ball? hmmm why didnt they let DFS handle the ball and be the PG? |
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | PICKnPOP wrote: | | I like him but given we got Luka and AR I’m guessing we have seen the la |
His position, role and playstyle couldn't be more different from ARs and Luka's. |
We have enough young guards that can’t defend. |
We've got too many wings that can defend and have no offense.
That was the problem.
Too many Gabe's, Goodwin's and DFS's and not enough Knecht's. That's why our bench scoring sucked and what came back to bite us.
You can't run a bench crew of 4 defensive players that have no offense and expect offense to happen.
Goodwin, Vando, Gabe, DFS all defense, no offense, and only one is an actual elite defender that is also out there hustling for rebounds and is a maintenance man and that is Vando. But you're out there relying on Goodwin, Gabe and DFS to carry your bench on offense and when it became obvious that wasn't gonna happen, NOT playing the kid that was a near guaranteed 8 points off the bench and stretches the floor and the T'Wolves defense was a stupid and dumb decision that is on JJ's shoulders.
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | PICKnPOP wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | PICKnPOP wrote: | | I like him but given we got Luka and AR I’m guessing we have seen the la |
His position, role and playstyle couldn't be more different from ARs and Luka's. |
We have enough young guards that can’t defend. |
We've got too many wings that can defend and have no offense.
That was the problem.
Too many Gabe's, Goodwin's and DFS's and not enough Knecht's. That's why our bench scoring sucked and what came back to bite us.
You can't run a bench crew of 4 defensive players that have no offense and expect offense to happen.
Goodwin, Vando, Gabe, DFS all defense, no offense, and only one is an actual elite defender that is also out there hustling for rebounds and is a maintenance man and that is Vando. But you're out there relying on Goodwin, Gabe and DFS to carry your bench on offense and when it became obvious that wasn't gonna happen, NOT playing the kid that was a near guaranteed 8 points off the bench and stretches the floor and the T'Wolves defense was a stupid and dumb decision that is on JJ's shoulders. |
Agree on Goodwin, Gabe, Vando. DFS was 36.8% from 3 against Minny for the series. so, not bad |
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BILBJH
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Isn't DFS a more expensive version of Prince?
I like DFS, and don't regret that trade, but it feels like like we got a 15 million dollar version of Prince while Milwaukee paid 2 million for theirs.
They both have 7 feet wingspans. Prince shot 44% from three. Even Prince's defensive rating was better this season.
DFS was better in the playoffs, so there's that, but Prince is someone to follow if DFS gets traded. |
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panamaniac
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| He should be able to be what Braun is for the Nuggets. |
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LakerFan1987
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| panamaniac wrote: | | He should be able to be what Braun is for the Nuggets. |
THIS! |
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ThreePointBomber
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Is Dalton playing in the Summer league? 
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | panamaniac wrote: | | He should be able to be what Braun is for the Nuggets. |
THIS! |
smaller more offensive version of Braun. Imo he should be starting 2 guard next year. AR should be traded for picks and a player or two. With this CBA you have to maximize your cap space and having austin and Luka taking 70-80% of your cap space the next 5 years is not a winning formula.
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Oh honey...
That footage of you onstage at some rap concert...  Lookin a lil stiff and awkward there, Fam lol. New fame takes practice I guess. Lol |
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Lmao that was hilarious
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sonic the laker
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| E_Wulf420 wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | panamaniac wrote: | | He should be able to be what Braun is for the Nuggets. |
THIS! |
smaller more offensive version of Braun. Imo he should be starting 2 guard next year. AR should be traded for picks and a player or two. With this CBA you have to maximize your cap space and having austin and Luka taking 70-80% of your cap space the next 5 years is not a winning formula. |
Braun and Knecht are basically the same size. Braun's height measures at 6'5.5" (w/o shoes), compared to Knecht at 6'5.25" (w/o shoes). And, Knecht actually has the superior wingspan and standing reach, between the two.
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 7:25 am Post subject: |
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luka will turn him into prime Mike miller
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tox
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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I truly do not understand the Knecht lovefest
But maybe he'll make that second year leap |
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| tox wrote: | I truly do not understand the Knecht lovefest
But maybe he'll make that second year leap |
I don't get it either. I'm hoping he makes the leap. Because that would be best for our franchise. But he's so far away from being a two-way player. I won't be surprised if he isn't a starter next year either.
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | panamaniac wrote: | | He should be able to be what Braun is for the Nuggets. |
THIS! |
I see completely different players. Though DK should be the superior offensive player... playing him next to Luka is worse defensively than AR. Braun in the backcourt with Luka makes more sense.
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We need scoring on the 2nd unit. I'd love it if we could run the Showtime 1 system and bring in a 4 or 5 man assault squad, and let Dalton play the Mike McGee role. McGee and McAdoo were the designated scorers and McGee put up almost 20 shots per 36 minutes. Dalton doesn't seem to get shots at a high rate when playing with other reserves - whether that's because he doesn't know where to go on the court or there's no facilitator to get him the ball, I don't know. But he should be gunning it out there.
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| TDRock wrote: | Oh honey...
That footage of you onstage at some rap concert... Lookin a lil stiff and awkward there, Fam lol. New fame takes practice I guess. Lol |
I guess now we must keep him and win a title to see if his dance moves rival Madsen's.
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| MJST wrote: | | TDRock wrote: | Oh honey...
That footage of you onstage at some rap concert... Lookin a lil stiff and awkward there, Fam lol. New fame takes practice I guess. Lol |
I guess now we must keep him and win a title to see if his dance moves rival Madsen's. |
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | PICKnPOP wrote: | | I like him but given we got Luka and AR I’m guessing we have seen the last of him in a Laker jersey. |
When AR point production went belly up in the playoffs....yeah lets not give Dalton a burn...real "Minding the Game" Genius,,,,lol. How much that Lakers bench scored again in the Playoffs? Yeahhh i really hope he goes because that would be soooo "Minding the Game" IQ!!! Just like putting in Kiebler in instead of Hayes....making Gobert a FREAKING ALLSTAR!!
OYeah if you go back in those playoff threads ALOT of screaming about TOs? Seem like they need another PG to actually handle the ball? hmmm why didnt they let DFS handle the ball and be the PG? |
I don’t disagree but JJ is the coach. What’s the point in keeping someone that you’re not going to play anyways. Personally, I would have balanced the lineups more and had AR and Rui coming off the bench. I think it’s insane to have people as talented as RUi and reaves spacing the damn floor for the majority of a game knowing damn well you need defense next to Luka.
So, only are you wasting RUI and Luka’s strengths standing in the corner, you’re also wasting DFS/Gabes strength on defense and stretching the floor.
I really don’t think starting gabe and DFS next to Luka changes his first half ott it out at all. Really. What you’re changing is have a scoring punch off the damn bench. jJ did a lot of dumb ass things. He can’t see it though because he’s only looking at the numbers. He found some success early with those dumb ass lineups and wouldn’t adjust.
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PICKnPOP
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| MJST wrote: | | PICKnPOP wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | PICKnPOP wrote: | | I like him but given we got Luka and AR I’m guessing we have seen the la |
His position, role and playstyle couldn't be more different from ARs and Luka's. |
We have enough young guards that can’t defend. |
We've got too many wings that can defend and have no offense.
That was the problem.
Too many Gabe's, Goodwin's and DFS's and not enough Knecht's. That's why our bench scoring sucked and what came back to bite us.
You can't run a bench crew of 4 defensive players that have no offense and expect offense to happen.
Goodwin, Vando, Gabe, DFS all defense, no offense, and only one is an actual elite defender that is also out there hustling for rebounds and is a maintenance man and that is Vando. But you're out there relying on Goodwin, Gabe and DFS to carry your bench on offense and when it became obvious that wasn't gonna happen, NOT playing the kid that was a near guaranteed 8 points off the bench and stretches the floor and the T'Wolves defense was a stupid and dumb decision that is on JJ's shoulders. |
I agree but I don’t see them trading Austin for anything less than a star bigman. TBH both AR and Knecht will be traded in that case.
It’s just more likely they try and bunt for a role playing center IMO.
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