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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:32 pm Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
TDRock wrote:
Halflife wrote:
TDRock wrote:
Russ didn't work here on a variety of levels and yes that trade was… Unsuccessful to say the least. But man everything about the way and why we lost Caruso hurts my soul not the least of which is the fact that it really cannot be overstated that THT is barely in the league at this point. And Alex Caruso is in the Finals and is a major contributor towards his team's success... I can't
I think about it and I just can't
He wanted years and at the time no one outside of AD was getting years because every offseason they didn’t know if bron was staying, retiring or leaving. Bummer but it’s long since been over.
I'm just answering the thread, bruv. I didn't start the thread or ask the question but I'll answer it.
And while things have obviously moved on hellz yeah I'm still annoyed by it.
I know you are answering, but people are all up in their feelings for a guy that could have signed but didn't.
Russ didn't work here on a variety of levels and yes that trade was… Unsuccessful to say the least. But man everything about the way and why we lost Caruso hurts my soul not the least of which is the fact that it really cannot be overstated that THT is barely in the league at this point. And Alex Caruso is in the Finals and is a major contributor towards his team's success... I can't
I think about it and I just can't
He wanted years and at the time no one outside of AD was getting years because every offseason they didn’t know if bron was staying, retiring or leaving. Bummer but it’s long since been over.
I'm just answering the thread, bruv. I didn't start the thread or ask the question but I'll answer it.
And while things have obviously moved on hellz yeah I'm still annoyed by it.
I know you are answering, but people are all up in their feelings for a guy that could have signed but didn't.
We prioritized THT LawedT!
lol (but for real tho )
…and Caruso offered us a discount too! _________________ When reasonably possible, I expect the Lakers to go after a ship like it can’t be denied. I haven’t seen a completely committed effort by the GM for the last 2 off seasons nor the last 2 trade deadlines. What is going on?
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:23 am Post subject:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
TDRock wrote:
Halflife wrote:
TDRock wrote:
Halflife wrote:
TDRock wrote:
Russ didn't work here on a variety of levels and yes that trade was… Unsuccessful to say the least. But man everything about the way and why we lost Caruso hurts my soul not the least of which is the fact that it really cannot be overstated that THT is barely in the league at this point. And Alex Caruso is in the Finals and is a major contributor towards his team's success... I can't
I think about it and I just can't
He wanted years and at the time no one outside of AD was getting years because every offseason they didn’t know if bron was staying, retiring or leaving. Bummer but it’s long since been over.
I'm just answering the thread, bruv. I didn't start the thread or ask the question but I'll answer it.
And while things have obviously moved on hellz yeah I'm still annoyed by it.
I know you are answering, but people are all up in their feelings for a guy that could have signed but didn't.
We prioritized THT LawedT!
lol (but for real tho )
…and Caruso offered us a discount too!
I hate to add to your misery TDR You and are are paddling the same canoe. When I see how well Alex is playing, I curse the Lakers organization for letting him go and keeping THT.🤬😡
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Reports indicate, according to some sources, Alex Caruso offered to take a pay cut to return to the Lakers in free agency. He reportedly offered to accept a two-year, $20 million deal, which was less than the offer he received from the Chicago Bulls. The Lakers, however, declined to match or increase their original offer of three years and $21 million.
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America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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Trading for Westbrook by far. Now mind you, Caruso has become one of the top defender's in the game, and THT has been a bust. But at the time Caruso wasn't the defender he is now (but he was good), struggled handling the ball, and had shot 28% from three in 27 career playoff games.
Obviously if they knew then, what they know now, they would have made a different decision.
Pelinka lost faith in Caruso after the Phoenix series. Caruso couldn’t guard Booker, Paul or Cam Payne.
He’s grown a lot since then, and has worked on his defensive technique.
Trading for Westbrook by far. Now mind you, Caruso has become one of the top defender's in the game, and THT has been a bust. But at the time Caruso wasn't the defender he is now (but he was good), struggled handling the ball, and had shot 28% from three in 27 career playoff games.
Obviously if they knew then, what they know now, they would have made a different decision.
Pelinka lost faith in Caruso after the Phoenix series. Caruso couldn’t guard Booker, Paul or Cam Payne.
He’s grown a lot since then, and has worked on his defensive technique.
Again, there were several people at the time that felt Kendrick Nunn was an upgrade over Alex Caruso. Hindsight is always 20/20. People think it was THT that was picked over Caruso, it was more so they wanted to be able to get Kendrick Nunn. If there was no Kendrick Nunn on the horizon, the Lakers would have retained both THT and Caruso.
But no one could have predicted what happened with Nunn.
And then we wound up basically picking Gabe Vincent over developing Scotty Pippen Jr. Because Ham didn't believe in him either. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
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Joined: 27 May 2010 Posts: 56020 Location: LA to the Bay
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:33 pm Post subject:
MJST wrote:
zambia wrote:
J.C. Smith wrote:
Trading for Westbrook by far. Now mind you, Caruso has become one of the top defender's in the game, and THT has been a bust. But at the time Caruso wasn't the defender he is now (but he was good), struggled handling the ball, and had shot 28% from three in 27 career playoff games.
Obviously if they knew then, what they know now, they would have made a different decision.
Pelinka lost faith in Caruso after the Phoenix series. Caruso couldn’t guard Booker, Paul or Cam Payne.
He’s grown a lot since then, and has worked on his defensive technique.
Again, there were several people at the time that felt Kendrick Nunn was an upgrade over Alex Caruso. Hindsight is always 20/20. People think it was THT that was picked over Caruso, it was more so they wanted to be able to get Kendrick Nunn. If there was no Kendrick Nunn on the horizon, the Lakers would have retained both THT and Caruso.
But no one could have predicted what happened with Nunn.
And then we wound up basically picking to get Gabe Vincent over developing Scotty Pippen Jr. Because Ham didn't believe in him either.
Trading for Westbrook by far. Now mind you, Caruso has become one of the top defender's in the game, and THT has been a bust. But at the time Caruso wasn't the defender he is now (but he was good), struggled handling the ball, and had shot 28% from three in 27 career playoff games.
Obviously if they knew then, what they know now, they would have made a different decision.
Pelinka lost faith in Caruso after the Phoenix series. Caruso couldn’t guard Booker, Paul or Cam Payne.
He’s grown a lot since then, and has worked on his defensive technique.
Again, there were several people at the time that felt Kendrick Nunn was an upgrade over Alex Caruso. Hindsight is always 20/20. People think it was THT that was picked over Caruso, it was more so they wanted to be able to get Kendrick Nunn. If there was no Kendrick Nunn on the horizon, the Lakers would have retained both THT and Caruso.
But no one could have predicted what happened with Nunn.
And then we wound up basically picking to get Gabe Vincent over developing Scotty Pippen Jr. Because Ham didn't believe in him either.
LAWEDT THATS WORSE
It's worse in hindsight. At the time, people that disliked the Lakers hated that they got Nunn.
You've got to remember who Nunn was at that time.
Nunn was just coming off a season where he averaged 14.6 points and 0.9 steals, and shot 48.5% from the field and 38% from three on 5.7 attempts per game.
The Lakers getting Nunn was considered highway robbery at the time.
We never ever ever got this version of him. Because he got one injury before we even got out of the pre-season, missed the entire first season he signed with us, and was never the same player ever again. No one predicted that would happen. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Firing Vogel instead of Pelinka. _________________ I'm willing to eat my own poop and post on youtube for another Laker championship under Pelinka.
Lakers need a visionary GM because vision is scary.
This poll question was too easy. Westbrook is the worst trade in Laker history for a thousand and one reasons.
RI Laker wrote:
Hiring Rob.
With Rob we won a championship, so this answer is wrong for that alone. Everything he did after the summer of 2020 is up for debate, though.
Just curious. What was Rob's role in getting us a championship? If we are being honest, Magic was the key figure in convincing LJ to sign.
Rob's roster construction around Lebron made a lot more sense than Magic's. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
This poll question was too easy. Westbrook is the worst trade in Laker history for a thousand and one reasons.
RI Laker wrote:
Hiring Rob.
With Rob we won a championship, so this answer is wrong for that alone. Everything he did after the summer of 2020 is up for debate, though.
Just curious. What was Rob's role in getting us a championship? If we are being honest, Magic was the key figure in convincing LJ to sign.
Rob's roster construction around Lebron made a lot more sense than Magic's.
Magic got the big fish. This isn't about Magic (who was gone before Lebron was signed so your statement does not fly). I just do not see why people support Rob, especially for this long. Rob (TBH) has done dick.
This poll question was too easy. Westbrook is the worst trade in Laker history for a thousand and one reasons.
RI Laker wrote:
Hiring Rob.
With Rob we won a championship, so this answer is wrong for that alone. Everything he did after the summer of 2020 is up for debate, though.
Just curious. What was Rob's role in getting us a championship? If we are being honest, Magic was the key figure in convincing LJ to sign.
Rob's roster construction around Lebron made a lot more sense than Magic's.
Magic got the big fish. This isn't .
LeBron was coming regardless and Magic was already here as a consultant, he didn't need to have any actual power. Him getting power cost us Zubac, and cost us many assets that could have been used in an AD trade and kept us with some of our young talents.
Magic being in charge was a horrible idea and Jeanie only did it to be petty.
Every decision bar the Westbrook trade has made basketball sense and injuries which we couldn't predict were the things stopping them.
Look at the roster we had right after we won a Championship. If AD isn't hurt the majority of the year we're one of the best and deepest teams in the West. If AD doesn't go down in the Playoffs we repeat AD Champions.
The picking Caruso wasn't primarily for THT it was to free up the MLE to sign Kendrick Nunn. They just used what was left to offer THT more so he wouldn't sign an offer sheet elsewhere.
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As Bleacher Report's Eric Pincus recently laid out, retaining Caruso at the price the Bulls paid him would have cost the Lakers $33 million in salary and taxes. There were cheaper ways to go about retaining him, though. Let's say, for instance, the Lakers had chosen to re-sign Caruso but eschew the taxpayer mid-level exception, which they gave to Kendrick Nunn. That would have cost them a more manageable $17 million more in salary and taxes.
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Caruso’s exit paved the way for the Lakers to offer more to Horton-Tucker — a client of Rich Paul’s Klutch Sports, which represents both James and Anthony Davis — and keep him from signing an offer sheet elsewhere
Nunn at that time was considered a major upgrade. But he got hurt before the season started, missed the year and was never the same. And stuff like what happened with Nunn and Gabe Vincent is why when there were several even more blaring red flags on a player such as Mark Williams, Rob went "Oh Hell No".
Rob's made some basketball mistakes but was far better than Magic.
I need ANYONE to argue and tell me that if healthy that this team wasn't better and deeper than our Championship team, remember despite AD missing half the season we were 2nd in the NBA in defense.
I'll go with the final roster lineups if healthy.
Starters:
Dennis Schröder
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
LeBron James
Anthony Davis
Andre Drummond
Bench:
Alex Caruso
Wesley Matthews / Talen-Horton Tucker
Kyle Kuzma
Montrezl Harrell / Markieff Morris
Marc Gasol
Now look at that roster, and tell me that AD didn't have a center, tell me we didn't have a bench, tell me that we weakened our championship team, and tell me that Rob did a horrible job upgrading us from our Championship team.
The MISTAKE Rob made was listening to LeBron and AD and getting Westbrook. When Dwight Howard complains about 'breaking up the Championship roster' THIS is the team that we had, because we tried to bring him back, he initially committed and then went to Philly instead after changing his mind. When he came back was when we had Westbrook and had already lost all our depth from this season.
Rob upgraded the Championship roster, and then because he listened to our stars, killed the depth to go get Westbrook, and then he somehow saved that by landing us Dlo, Hachimura, Vando, Beasley and we got to the WCF the year after the Westbrook blunder.
Then we brought back that roster, and the same Coach that got them to the WCF, and that Coach decided to be an idiot and run something completely different for half a season till he was threatened with having his favorite player sent away, and then he benched him, played our guys right, and we won 70% of the rest of our games and was on a 50+ win pace. But because of that Coach's idiocy had to face the Nuggets again in the 1st round. But the problem wasn't the roster, it was the Coach deciding to do the opposite of what obviously worked the previous year and wasting our time making a player that is a career bench player into a starter for no reason other than he liked riding around in his car.
As far as rosters go, Rob's done a fantastic job assembling the rosters aside from the one time he listened to the stars. And his initial idea prior to Westbrook was keeping our depth and moving Kuzma and getting Buddy Hield and eventually rolling around and potentially using some of those assets to land Myles Turner. Which would have been a superior deal.
Injuries and listening to LeBron held the roster back for a season, it was fixed the next season and then we were playing catchup.
It also is redundant at this point to go "Magic got us the big fish(LeBron)" when LeBron was coming anyway but okay, well then Rob got us Luka freaking Doncic IN A TRADE and didn't lose us Reaves in that trade... that's far more impressive.
So when it comes to roster construction, I don't worry about Rob as much, unless he's listening to what LeBron wants. He's far better than Magic ever was. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
MJST, you could not be MORE WRONG. Lebron was not coming either way. He requested to meet with Magic ALONE. Unless the meeting was for cigar night or karoake, Magic sealed the deal. This came as the Lakers were striking out left and right in terms of free agency. Also, letting Caruso walk (after he gave the Lakers a chance to resign him with a shorter term contract) was an epic failure. Rob has far more whiffs than hits and most would agree. You can like him all you want (I am not going to try to change your opinion). I am still hoping Luka figures out Rob is not the answer (he has already gotten a taste with the Williams fiasco) and gets him thrown out before his time as a Laker is wasted as well. How much more slack/time should be given to Rob? I think he is well beyond his expiration date.
MJST, you could not be MORE WRONG. Lebron was not coming either way. He requested to meet with Magic ALONE. Unless the meeting was for cigar night or karoake, Magic sealed the de
LeBron was coming anyway.
Magic would/could have been a part of the Free Agency pitch as a consultant without any power if it was Magic specifically LeBron wanted to meet. And therefore didn't have to screw our roster.
LeBron's meeting also had nothing to do with the fact that he was Magic Johnson, it had to do with the fact that Magic was the one in power and at the time was President of Basketball Operations. That was who James was most interested in talking to. That is why the discussion had to do with the team, the coach, the off-season, winning, and Luke Walton's system, not the Lakers.
Took all of one season for that to be tossed out the window and Magic out the door, and Vogel to be brought in And if LeBron wanted to keep any of those things, they'd have remained.
But if you want to say "Magic got us LeBron!!!!"
Okay, well Pelinka got us Luka in a trade that didn't cost us Reaves or tons of picks, and without his and Kobe's relationship with Nico Harrison and the fact it never leaked anywhere, that never happens. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Trading Westbrook away, together with a pick, for Russell and Vanderbilt was also a mistake in hindsight _________________ 48 49 50 52 53 54 72 80 82
85 87 88 00 01 02 09 10 20
This poll question was too easy. Westbrook is the worst trade in Laker history for a thousand and one reasons.
RI Laker wrote:
Hiring Rob.
With Rob we won a championship, so this answer is wrong for that alone. Everything he did after the summer of 2020 is up for debate, though.
Just curious. What was Rob's role in getting us a championship? If we are being honest, Magic was the key figure in convincing LJ to sign.
Rob's roster construction around Lebron made a lot more sense than Magic's.
Magic got the big fish. This isn't about Magic (who was gone before Lebron was signed so your statement does not fly). I just do not see why people support Rob, especially for this long. Rob (TBH) has done dick.
Just answering your question as to what Rob has done. After striking out on Kawhi, he was able to pivot and build a championship roster while holding on to valuable free agents like Caruso, KCP, Javale, and Rondo.
In contrast, Magic struck out on PG and then proceeded to sign questionable fits (non-shooters who needed the ball to be effective) while letting Brook and Randle walk.
Not saying Rob has been a great (maybe not even good) GM, but I think it's disingenuous to say Rob hasn't done anything. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:21 am Post subject:
Lots of decisions that haven't panned out:
Trading Zubac for a partially frozen turkey
Trusting that Westbrook, Davis, and Lebron would work
Choosing THT over AC - I wonder if this was influenced by Lebron
How about the mighty Luke Walton going out and getting Deng/Mosgov?
The Shaq trade where we got the money taking loafer Brian Grant?
2023 drafting JHS
2017 drafting Lonzo Ball instead of Tatum.
Other times we have done great:
Trade for Kareem
Trading Gail Goodrich, which got us draft picks that I believe became Byron Scott and James Worthy in future years.
Signing Shaq
Trading to get high schooler Kobe Bryant
Some times, its just the luck of the draw. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions!
This poll question was too easy. Westbrook is the worst trade in Laker history for a thousand and one reasons.
RI Laker wrote:
Hiring Rob.
With Rob we won a championship, so this answer is wrong for that alone. Everything he did after the summer of 2020 is up for debate, though.
Just curious. What was Rob's role in getting us a championship? If we are being honest, Magic was the key figure in convincing LJ to sign.
Rob's roster construction around Lebron made a lot more sense than Magic's.
Magic was only aound for a year after getting Lebron. Magic set the table for the AD trade (bolted before it was finalized). Again, this is not about Magic but Rob (specifically why he is still here). I am not trying to be a douche. I am just trying to understand why some support Rob so much. Also, saying Rob built a championship roster while holding on to valuable free agents like Caruso, KCP, Javale, and Rondo is quite rich.
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:23 am Post subject:
dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
We made Caruso an offer didn't we? Then he tried to price shop and get us to bid against the Bulls for an extra Million or couple million, and the FO told him best of luck. The front office has exhibited a pattern of not engaging in bidding wars with role players after making what they feel is a fair offer.
Not true.
Alex Caruso did express a willingness to take a pay cut to remain with the Los Angeles Lakers, but the team ultimately didn't match the offer he received from the Chicago Bulls. He even offered to accept a two-year, $20 million deal, which was less than the Bulls' offer, but the Lakers declined, according to reports from Bleacher Report and Silver Screen and Roll. The Lakers ultimately used the money to sign Kendrick Nunn and re-sign Talen Horton-Tucker.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Initial Offer: The Lakers initially offered Caruso a three-year, $21 million contract.
Caruso's Compromise: Caruso then informed the Lakers that he would be willing to sign a two-year, $20 million deal to stay.
Lakers' Decision: The Lakers did not match or counter Caruso's offer, even with the compromise, according to reports.
Bulls' Offer: The Bulls ultimately signed Caruso to a four-year, $36.9 million contract.
Reason for Departure: Caruso's decision to leave the Lakers was primarily due to the Lakers' unwillingness to match or exceed the Bulls' offer, despite his willingness to accept less.
You can watch this video to learn more about Alex Caruso's time with the Lakers and his decision to leave:
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Lakers Nation
YouTube · Nov 10, 2021
Bulls' Alex Caruso confirms he would have taken less to re ...
Nov 10, 2021 — That guess was two years and $15 million. ... She added that he would have been willing to return on a three-year, $30...
CBS Sports
The real reason the Lakers let Alex Caruso leave for the Bulls
Nov 15, 2021 — After a lowball offer of $7 million a year from the Lakers to open free agency, Caruso brought the Lakers the offer pr...
Silver Screen and Roll
Alex Caruso Explains Decision to Leave Lakers for Bulls Ahead of Return to LA | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report
Nov 15, 2021
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves.
We made Caruso an offer didn't we? Then he tried to price shop and get us to bid against the Bulls for an extra Million or couple million, and the FO told him best of luck. The front office has exhibited a pattern of not engaging in bidding wars with role players after making what they feel is a fair offer.
Not true.
Alex Caruso did express a willingness to take a pay cut to remain with the Los Angeles Lakers, but the team ultimately didn't match the offer he received from the Chicago Bulls. He even offered to accept a two-year, $20 million deal, which was less than the Bulls' offer, but the Lakers declined, according to reports from Bleacher Report and Silver Screen and Roll. The Lakers ultimately used the money to sign Kendrick Nunn and re-sign Talen Horton-Tucker.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Initial Offer: The Lakers initially offered Caruso a three-year, $21 million contract.
Caruso's Compromise: Caruso then informed the Lakers that he would be willing to sign a two-year, $20 million deal to stay.
Lakers' Decision: The Lakers did not match or counter Caruso's offer, even with the compromise, according to reports.
Bulls' Offer: The Bulls ultimately signed Caruso to a four-year, $36.9 million contract.
Reason for Departure: Caruso's decision to leave the Lakers was primarily due to the Lakers' unwillingness to match or exceed the Bulls' offer, despite his willingness to accept less.
You can watch this video to learn more about Alex Caruso's time with the Lakers and his decision to leave:
32s
Lakers Nation
YouTube · Nov 10, 2021
Bulls' Alex Caruso confirms he would have taken less to re ...
Nov 10, 2021 — That guess was two years and $15 million. ... She added that he would have been willing to return on a three-year, $30...
CBS Sports
The real reason the Lakers let Alex Caruso leave for the Bulls
Nov 15, 2021 — After a lowball offer of $7 million a year from the Lakers to open free agency, Caruso brought the Lakers the offer pr...
Silver Screen and Roll
Alex Caruso Explains Decision to Leave Lakers for Bulls Ahead of Return to LA | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report
Nov 15, 2021
The Lakers let Caruso go so they could use the MLE to sign Kendrick Nunn.
Nunn was just coming off a season where he averaged 14.6 points and 0.9 steals, and shot 48.5% from the field and 38% from three on 5.7 attempts per game.
No one expected him to get hurt before playing a single season game and never be the same player again.
If there was no Kendrick Nunn on the horizon they'd have kept both THT and Caruso.
It all makes feasible sense.
Nothing will be worse in the comparisons of those two, than Magic knowing that Zubac had been working with Kareem and getting rid of him for Muscala.
And now Zubac got one of the most reliable hook shots in the NBA. Brilliant idea.
3:03 announcers during a Celtics vs Clippers game randomly being jealous that the Lakers drafted Dalton Knecht calling every other GM an idiot. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
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Nunn turned a couple of great playoff games into a contract. His own team wasn’t willing to pay what Pelinka offered. Pelinka seems to excel when he is the only one bidding. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
This poll question was too easy. Westbrook is the worst trade in Laker history for a thousand and one reasons.
RI Laker wrote:
Hiring Rob.
With Rob we won a championship, so this answer is wrong for that alone. Everything he did after the summer of 2020 is up for debate, though.
Just curious. What was Rob's role in getting us a championship? If we are being honest, Magic was the key figure in convincing LJ to sign.
Rob's roster construction around Lebron made a lot more sense than Magic's.
Magic was only aound for a year after getting Lebron. Magic set the table for the AD trade (bolted before it was finalized). Again, this is not about Magic but Rob (specifically why he is still here). I am not trying to be a douche. I am just trying to understand why some support Rob so much. Also, saying Rob built a championship roster while holding on to valuable free agents like Caruso, KCP, Javale, and Rondo is quite rich.
I'm not sure anyone has built an entire championship-level playoff rotation in one year so I don't think that discounts what Rob did, namely adding Green, Bradley (who didn't play in the bubble but set the tone for our defense all season long), Howard, and Morris on top of those players. Also under the radar was the Vogel hiring. Yes it was after botching the Lue pursuit but nobody had Vogel on their radar and he turned out to be the perfect coach for the identity of that team.
I think there's a tendency to speak in absolutes. Acknowledging one's accomplishments does not always equate to support. For the record, I think Rob has been below-average to average as a GM/POBO. But I can also acknowledge that he had a significant role in that championship squad. If we can get someone better I think we should but that also applies to most GM/POBOs. Whether that counts as support or not is up to you. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
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