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LakerLanny Retired Number

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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Amanda Serrano got absolutely jobbed by the judges, that was a disgrace and so typical for boxing.
As far as Tyson, he was a 3-1 underdog on my gambling website and probably should have been a 25-1 underdog. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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We know it was glorified sparring/rigged but the little bow at the end was just annoying. I get that it's supposed to be sold as respect and humility for the story they're telling...but to sell it as real...Mike was behind and would have clocked him to win....if it were real. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Mike says maybe Logan next, and Logan responds something to the effect.. "Mike, you know I would eff you up." Sad that they have the balls to say stuff like this. Of course it's only because Mike is 58 yrs old. I just hate how Mike is allowing this, stooping to this level. If Mike was 25 yrs old, Logan and Jake Paul would be crapping their pants. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:56 am Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | Amanda Serrano got absolutely jobbed by the judges, that was a disgrace and so typical for boxing.
As far as Tyson, he was a 3-1 underdog on my gambling website and probably should have been a 25-1 underdog. |
That's job #2. She headbutted Amanda in their last fight. Taylor's a dirty fighter. Amanda's not the first fighter she headbutted. It's a part of her arsenal.
Mike says he's not done. In my mind he is and I believe he knows it. I don't know if he needs the money but I think, that's his motivation. He made $20 million for this fiasco. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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1995Lakers Star Player

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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Runway8 wrote: | Mike says maybe Logan next, and Logan responds something to the effect.. "Mike, you know I would eff you up." Sad that they have the balls to say stuff like this. Of course it's only because Mike is 58 yrs old. I just hate how Mike is allowing this, stooping to this level. If Mike was 25 yrs old, Logan and Jake Paul would be crapping their pants. |
Im 100% sure Tyson as a teenage amateur would have f'ed these two up easily and at his best could have easily taken on both of them at the same time and knocked them both out in Round 1. Tyson was so amazing and so explosive that even though his style is all wrong against Foreman (as you saw vs Smokin Joe) and/or Liston (against D'Amato's prodigy of the Peekaboo style Floyd Patterson), I would have loved to see if he was good enough to break the stylistic mismatch against two of the greatest ever. Ditto against Lewis and Bowe from his own generation when all are at their best. Its the same stylistic mismatch I would see if Floyd Mayweather Jr dared to fight Tommy Hearns at Welterweight. Hearns would be his worst matchup amongst all the 4 Kings. I think you saw this too when there were lots of murmurs of Mayweather ducking Paul the Punisher Williams when Williams was the guy no one wanted to fight. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/42484428/paul-tyson-181m-gate-kos-combat-sport-record-las-vegas
Anybody hoping we've seen the last of these boxing matches....well I think they are just getting started with the money they made. |
As long as these events make money they'll be made. It's not boxing, it's entertainment. e.g. Exaggeration! How much would you pay to see P Diddy fight Jay-Z? Put known names in the 4 square canvas jungle. If you build it they will come. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Usyk vs Fury 2. Today _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Usyk won UD on all 3 scorecards: 116-112
Yeah Fury has no chance vs Usyk. No need for a third fight. Dude punching with backhanded slaps. |
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | Usyk won UD on all 3 scorecards: 116-112
Yeah Fury has no chance vs Usyk. No need for a third fight. Dude punching with backhanded slaps. |
I thought is was closer. It could have gone either way. The ringside observer 115-116 was a better scorecard. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Benvidez vs Morrell on now PPV
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Canelo vs. Jake Paul, May 3rd at Cruiserweight 200lbs.
Almost done deal.
Canelo-Crawford is now off. Was in negotiations for a Sep bout at 168lbs. |
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Quote: | Sources: Canelo nixes Jake Paul fight; Crawford bout back on
In a stunning 11th-hour development with a potential Jake Paul fight at the 1-yard line, Canelo Alvarez has instead closed a four-fight deal with Turki Alalshikh and Riyadh Season to salvage a Terence Crawford mega-fight in September, sources told ESPN on Thursday night.
The first fight of Alvarez's four-fight deal will take place May 4 in Riyadh that Sunday morning for a prime-time broadcast Saturday night in the U.S., sources told ESPN. Two names being considered for that fight, which would serve as a tune-up for Crawford, are Jermall Charlo and Bruno Surace, according to sources.
Earlier Thursday, sources told ESPN that Alvarez and Paul had been in the process of finalizing a deal for a May 3 cruiserweight fight at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. That fight now is no longer expected to happen.
Upon learning of Alvarez's deal with Paul, Alalshikh, the chairman of Saudi Arabia's General Entertainment Authority, suspended efforts to finalize contracts for an Alvarez-Crawford bout, according to sources.
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Looks like Canelo used Jake Paul to get more money from Saudi Arabia in this new 4 fight deal (which includes Crawford in September). |
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:48 am Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | Quote: | Sources: Canelo nixes Jake Paul fight; Crawford bout back on
In a stunning 11th-hour development with a potential Jake Paul fight at the 1-yard line, Canelo Alvarez has instead closed a four-fight deal with Turki Alalshikh and Riyadh Season to salvage a Terence Crawford mega-fight in September, sources told ESPN on Thursday night.
The first fight of Alvarez's four-fight deal will take place May 4 in Riyadh that Sunday morning for a prime-time broadcast Saturday night in the U.S., sources told ESPN. Two names being considered for that fight, which would serve as a tune-up for Crawford, are Jermall Charlo and Bruno Surace, according to sources.
Earlier Thursday, sources told ESPN that Alvarez and Paul had been in the process of finalizing a deal for a May 3 cruiserweight fight at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. That fight now is no longer expected to happen.
Upon learning of Alvarez's deal with Paul, Alalshikh, the chairman of Saudi Arabia's General Entertainment Authority, suspended efforts to finalize contracts for an Alvarez-Crawford bout, according to sources.
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Looks like Canelo used Jake Paul to get more money from Saudi Arabia in this new 4 fight deal (which includes Crawford in September). |
I lost interest in Canelo after losing to Mayweather. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Not Canelo, C’mon Champ, don’t stoop to this level, u have enough $! _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:48 am Post subject: |
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JerryWest_44 wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | Quote: | Sources: Canelo nixes Jake Paul fight; Crawford bout back on
In a stunning 11th-hour development with a potential Jake Paul fight at the 1-yard line, Canelo Alvarez has instead closed a four-fight deal with Turki Alalshikh and Riyadh Season to salvage a Terence Crawford mega-fight in September, sources told ESPN on Thursday night.
The first fight of Alvarez's four-fight deal will take place May 4 in Riyadh that Sunday morning for a prime-time broadcast Saturday night in the U.S., sources told ESPN. Two names being considered for that fight, which would serve as a tune-up for Crawford, are Jermall Charlo and Bruno Surace, according to sources.
Earlier Thursday, sources told ESPN that Alvarez and Paul had been in the process of finalizing a deal for a May 3 cruiserweight fight at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. That fight now is no longer expected to happen.
Upon learning of Alvarez's deal with Paul, Alalshikh, the chairman of Saudi Arabia's General Entertainment Authority, suspended efforts to finalize contracts for an Alvarez-Crawford bout, according to sources.
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Looks like Canelo used Jake Paul to get more money from Saudi Arabia in this new 4 fight deal (which includes Crawford in September). |
I lost interest in Canelo after losing to Mayweather. |
Bruh, that was wet in the ear Canelo, he’s been the best in boxing since then _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:57 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Bruh, that was wet in the ear Canelo, he’s been the best in boxing since then |
I'd have to say Usyk has been the best of this generation/era (post Pacquiao/Mayweather). |
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:50 am Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | Canelo vs. Jake Paul, May 3rd at Cruiserweight 200lbs.
Almost done deal.
Canelo-Crawford is now off. Was in negotiations for a Sep bout at 168lbs. |
I don't want to see Bud in with Canelo. Alvarez is too big. In 2021, Álvarez told Maxim that he naturally walks around at about 205 pounds. Canelo is using the game. I don't blame him. Floyd's done it for years. He's cherry-picking. I don't know why fans don't get on him like they do Floyd. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | Canelo vs. Jake Paul, May 3rd at Cruiserweight 200lbs.
Almost done deal.
Canelo-Crawford is now off. Was in negotiations for a Sep bout at 168lbs. |
I don't want to see Bud in with Canelo. Alvarez is too big. In 2021, Álvarez told Maxim that he naturally walks around at about 205 pounds. Canelo is using the game. I don't blame him. Floyd's done it for years. He's cherry-picking. I don't know why fans don't get on him like they do Floyd. |
Because everyone knows Canelo is not an All time great. Frankly Canelo isnt even as good as Oscar De La Hoya when De La Hoya was cleaning out the Welterweight division.
Why couldnt Floyd fight dudes when they were in their prime? Paul the Punisher Williams would have been interesting. Pac around 2010 would have been great. Move up in weight and fight the great welterweights in the early 2000s like Mosley/Forrest/Vargas/Trinidad/De La Hoya (not in 2007). Had Floyd moved up in weight and cleaned out the welterweights of that time in the early 2000s, nobody would be disrespecting his name. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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1995Lakers wrote: | jodeke wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | Canelo vs. Jake Paul, May 3rd at Cruiserweight 200lbs.
Almost done deal.
Canelo-Crawford is now off. Was in negotiations for a Sep bout at 168lbs. |
I don't want to see Bud in with Canelo. Alvarez is too big. In 2021, Álvarez told Maxim that he naturally walks around at about 205 pounds. Canelo is using the game. I don't blame him. Floyd's done it for years. He's cherry-picking. I don't know why fans don't get on him like they do Floyd. |
Because everyone knows Canelo is not an All time great. Frankly Canelo isnt even as good as Oscar De La Hoya when De La Hoya was cleaning out the Welterweight division.
Why couldnt Floyd fight dudes when they were in their prime? Paul the Punisher Williams would have been interesting. Pac around 2010 would have been great. Move up in weight and fight the great welterweights in the early 2000s like Mosley/Forrest/Vargas/Trinidad/De La Hoya (not in 2007). Had Floyd moved up in weight and cleaned out the welterweights of that time in the early 2000s, nobody would be disrespecting his name. |
In his prime Floyd fought the best of the best. When he became his manager he started to use the game the way the suits did. The fight game changed when suits took control. They protected their cash cows. The Joe Louis. Rocky Marciano, Willie Pep and such days are a thing of the past. Every now and then you get a Bud Crawford vs Errol Spence Jr. Boxing is no longer the fight game, it's entertainment. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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When he was Pretty Boy, he surely didnt duck anyone and looked spectacular. But you must admit there is a big gap between Chico Corrales/Castillo and the truly top fighters of the time which would be the welters I mentioned earlier during that time or even Kostya Tszyu or even better yet, imagine if Floyd had fought Whitaker???? That would have been something. |
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1995Lakers wrote: | When he was Pretty Boy, he surely didnt duck anyone and looked spectacular. But you must admit there is a big gap between Chico Corrales/Castillo and the truly top fighters of the time which would be the welters I mentioned earlier during that time or even Kostya Tszyu or even better yet, imagine if Floyd had fought Whitaker???? That would have been something. |
Do you fault him for using the game instead of letting the game use him? He put his life on the line every time he crawled through the ropes of the canvas jungle while suits wore Armani and sat behind Brookhaven desks, collecting the lion's share of the prize without getting a scratch. I would have liked to see him fight the fighters you mentioned but I don't fault him for not. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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^^^^ Its just really hard to gauge where Floyd truly ranks amongst the greatest. Because it was obvious the boxing tools were first class: he had it all especially when he was younger and in a lower weight class. But when he got older and in a higher weight class, he developed even more boxing IQ and the only thing he really lost was that knockout power which really isnt all the important for a fighter like him as long as you have power that your opponent respects.
Like I really cant tell you with a straight face if he could have beaten the 1999 De La Hoya that in reality beat Trinidad and was undefeated at the time. Floyd had excellent first class tools but so did Oscar in 1999. Also unlike Trinidad and Mosley, two fighters who would later go on to be somewhat exposed, Oscar did not really have any weaknesses or anything to expose. And we all know Floyd did not have an easy time even with a much more diminished Oscar in 2007. |
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1995Lakers wrote: | ^^^^ Its just really hard to gauge where Floyd truly ranks amongst the greatest. Because it was obvious the boxing tools were first class: he had it all especially when he was younger and in a lower weight class. But when he got older and in a higher weight class, he developed even more boxing IQ and the only thing he really lost was that knockout power which really isnt all the important for a fighter like him as long as you have power that your opponent respects.
Like I really cant tell you with a straight face if he could have beaten the 1999 De La Hoya that in reality beat Trinidad and was undefeated at the time. Floyd had excellent first class tools but so did Oscar in 1999. Also unlike Trinidad and Mosley, two fighters who would later go on to be somewhat exposed, Oscar did not really have any weaknesses or anything to expose. And we all know Floyd did not have an easy time even with a much more diminished Oscar in 2007. |
Prime Oscar could've beat prime Mayweather. Before the alcohol and nose candy, Oscar was a beast. |
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Quote: | Canelo Alvarez to meet William Scull May 3 in Saudi Arabia
Canelo Alvarez, boxing's top star, will meet William Scull for the undisputed super middleweight championship May 3 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Turki Alalshikh announced Saturday.
Alalshikh, the chairman of Saudi Arabia's General Entertainment Authority, signed Alvarez to a four-fight Riyadh Season deal Thursday. The first fight of that deal -- which will take place Sunday morning, May 4, to accommodate a prime-time U.S. broadcast Saturday night on Cinco de Mayo -- will see Alvarez look to regain the IBF title that was stripped of him last year after he declined to face Scull.
Scull (23-0, 9 KOs) was his mandatory challenger at the time and went on to outpoint Vladimir Shiskin for the vacant IBF title in October.
Mexico's Alvarez, 34, holds the WBC, WBA and WBO titles at 168 pounds. With an expected win over Scull, in what amounts to a tune-up for a Sept. 13 showdown with Terence Crawford, that superfight will be contested for the undisputed championship.
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