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| jodeke wrote: | Bud would be a big money fight but I think Saul is too big for him. Bud Crawford weighs 146.8 pounds. Canelo Alvarez weighs 168 pounds. Bud has a great power punch but I don't think he can hurt Canelo. Even if Canelo comes down in weight on fight night he'd be back to 168.
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Canelo Alvarez next fight: 3 opponent options, including a Terence Crawford dream fight
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hahahaha the modern day toned down version of Roy Jones vs Mike Tyson. |
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| ExPatLkrFan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | gumby wrote: | Surprised Charlo didn't use his speed, reach, and movement to his advantage. I wasn't rooting for Charlo, but very surprised he didn't try to outbox Canelo since he wasn't gonna win by power.
Bye. |
Saul wouldn't let him. Once he knew Charlo couldn't hurt him he just walked him down. It's the old, I'll take one to give one. |
Not necessarily who hits hardest but who can take the others best shot. It appeared to me Charlo was in survival mode the whole fight.
I'm looking for Alvarez to offer Tank Davis a fight (at a catch weight). Anything other than fight David Benavides. |
I wasn't surprised by the result. This is why I wanted Jermall Charlo to fight Canelo. Years ago.
Canelo was playing dumb before the fight. Saying he didn't care which one he fought. They are twins they are the same.
Nah, everybody knows Jermall. Has more power. That's part of the reason why he was in a higher weight class than Jermell.
Well it's all moot now. Jermall has mental health issues. And Canelo will continue to fight lower weight guys. Crawford or Spence would be stupid to fight Canelo.
Can't help but think about Andre Ward. Canelo and GGG dodged him. So instead he went up a weight class and handled undefeated Kovalev, twice. Meanwhile Canelo waits an extra two years. And then gets his only light heavy win when Kovalev was properly washed up.
It's a business. I get it. But Canelo should really be answering the Bivol question.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | ExPatLkrFan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | gumby wrote: | Surprised Charlo didn't use his speed, reach, and movement to his advantage. I wasn't rooting for Charlo, but very surprised he didn't try to outbox Canelo since he wasn't gonna win by power.
Bye. |
Saul wouldn't let him. Once he knew Charlo couldn't hurt him he just walked him down. It's the old, I'll take one to give one. |
Not necessarily who hits hardest but who can take the others best shot. It appeared to me Charlo was in survival mode the whole fight.
I'm looking for Alvarez to offer Tank Davis a fight (at a catch weight). Anything other than fight David Benavides. |
I wasn't surprised by the result. This is why I wanted Jermall Charlo to fight Canelo. Years ago.
Canelo was playing dumb before the fight. Saying he didn't care which one he fought. They are twins they are the same.
Nah, everybody knows Jermall. Has more power. That's part of the reason why he was in a higher weight class than Jermell.
Well it's all moot now. Jermall has mental health issues. And Canelo will continue to fight lower weight guys. Crawford or Spence would be stupid to fight Canelo.
Can't help but think about Andre Ward. Canelo and GGG dodged him. So instead he went up a weight class and handled undefeated Kovalev, twice. Meanwhile Canelo waits an extra two years. And then gets his only light heavy win when Kovalev was properly washed up.
It's a business. I get it. But Canelo should really be answering the Bivol question. |
He don't want no Bivol or Benavidez smoke
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Tyson Fury 33 0 1 vs 17-3-0 Francis Ngannou Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on Saturday, Oct. 28. Ngannou has never had a professional boxing match. He's a MMA fighter. Fury's getting on the boxing gravy train. The overdue Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk fight has damaged Fury's brand.
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| jodeke wrote: | | Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on Saturday, Oct. 28. Ngannou has never had a professional boxing match. He's a MMA fighter. Fury's getting on the boxing gravy train. The overdue Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk fight has damaged Fury's brand. |
I’m expecting Fury knocking out Francis, I mean Francis isn’t better than Wilder
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| Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:45 am Post subject: |
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I'm watching the Fury prelims. Every fight I've watched resulted in KO's. The only name I know is Joseph Parker.
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| governator wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on Saturday, Oct. 28. Ngannou has never had a professional boxing match. He's a MMA fighter. Fury's getting on the boxing gravy train. The overdue Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk fight has damaged Fury's brand. |
I’m expecting Fury knocking out Francis, I mean Francis isn’t better than Wilder |
Of course.
The same way Ngannou would beat Fury in MMA.
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| kikanga wrote: | | governator wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on Saturday, Oct. 28. Ngannou has never had a professional boxing match. He's a MMA fighter. Fury's getting on the boxing gravy train. The overdue Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk fight has damaged Fury's brand. |
I’m expecting Fury knocking out Francis, I mean Francis isn’t better than Wilder |
Of course.
The same way Ngannou would beat Fury in MMA. |
Yup!
odds · Tyson Fury -1400 vs. Francis Ngannou +750
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Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94)
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Wow, Ngannou has that triple G granite chin. Fury looking like he took this fight way too lightly, blubber shape but forget all that, I wanna see Ngannou vs Wilder
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| jodeke wrote: | Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94) |
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to Ngannou. He represented himself well.
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| kikanga wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94) |
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to Ngannou. He represented himself well. |
Ngannou can and should go for a big payday, at 37, I mean who wouldn’t pay big money to see him take Wilder or Joshua, he doesn’t need UFC anymore
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| governator wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94) |
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to Ngannou. He represented himself well. |
Ngannou can and should go for a big payday, at 37, I mean who wouldn’t pay big money to see him take Wilder or Joshua, he doesn’t need UFC anymore |
I'd like to see him get a big payday also. I don't think he's ready for Wilder or Joshua. A fighter of lesser quality might be the way to go. I agree with kik. I don't think The Gypsy King took this fight seriously and was out of shape. I think a rematch would bring a different result. I don't know if he'd knock Francis out because he showed a chin but I think he'd school him.
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| jodeke wrote: | | governator wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94) |
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to Ngannou. He represented himself well. |
Ngannou can and should go for a big payday, at 37, I mean who wouldn’t pay big money to see him take Wilder or Joshua, he doesn’t need UFC anymore |
I'd like to see him get a big payday also. I don't think he's ready for Wilder or Joshua. A fighter of lesser quality might be the way to go. I agree with kik. I don't think The Gypsy King took this fight seriously and was out of shape. I think a rematch would bring a different result. I don't know if he'd knock Francis out because he showed a chin but I think he'd school him. |
Bro, out of shape or not, dude just took the champ’s punches and didn’t even look hurt at all. Plus we already know he got that KO power, he can absolutely go toe to toe with Wilder/AJ who’s not as technically sound as Fury
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| governator wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | governator wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94) |
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to willw. He represented himself well. |
Ngannou can and should go for a big payday, at 37, I mean who wouldn’t pay big money to see him take Wilder or Joshua, he doesn’t need UFC anymore |
I'd like to see him get a big payday also. I don't think he's ready for Wilder or Joshua. A fighter of lesser quality might be the way to go. I agree with kik. I don't think The Gypsy King took this fight seriously and was out of shape. I think a rematch would bring a different result. I don't know if he'd knock Francis out because he showed a chin . |
Bro, out of shape or not, dude just took the champ’s punches and didn’t even look hurt at all. Plus we already know he got that KO power, he can absolutely go toe to toe with Wilder/AJ who’s not as technically sound as Fury |
Note the bold green above.
I think he'd have a better chance of beating AJ. I don't think he'd beat Wilder. It wouldn't be wise to go toe to toe with either. Ngannou's previous boxing skills will improve with time. Listening to post fight interviews I think he intends to pursue a boxing career. His age says, huuurup! He's a little long in the tooth.
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| Ngannou could beat AJ, and he might fold Wilder. However, if Wilder lands (which he will), it could be a short night for Ngannou, who has never felt Wilder's level of power before. I got BOMBSQUAD by KO3 if that fight happens. I thought Ngannou beat Fury clearly, but boxing decisions are corrupt to the point of being a running joke at this point. Ngannou would hurt AJ badly, and we've seen AJ quit before to a fat man. Ngannou is the #2 ranked HW at minimum after what he did to Fury imo. |
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