Bud would be a big money fight but I think Saul is too big for him. Bud Crawford weighs 146.8 pounds. Canelo Alvarez weighs 168 pounds. Bud has a great power punch but I don't think he can hurt Canelo. Even if Canelo comes down in weight on fight night he'd be back to 168.
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·Published October 3, 2023
Canelo Alvarez next fight: 3 opponent options, including a Terence Crawford dream fight
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:24 am Post subject:
ExPatLkrFan wrote:
jodeke wrote:
gumby wrote:
Surprised Charlo didn't use his speed, reach, and movement to his advantage. I wasn't rooting for Charlo, but very surprised he didn't try to outbox Canelo since he wasn't gonna win by power.
Bye.
Saul wouldn't let him. Once he knew Charlo couldn't hurt him he just walked him down. It's the old, I'll take one to give one.
Not necessarily who hits hardest but who can take the others best shot. It appeared to me Charlo was in survival mode the whole fight.
I'm looking for Alvarez to offer Tank Davis a fight (at a catch weight). Anything other than fight David Benavides.
I wasn't surprised by the result. This is why I wanted Jermall Charlo to fight Canelo. Years ago.
Canelo was playing dumb before the fight. Saying he didn't care which one he fought. They are twins they are the same.
Nah, everybody knows Jermall. Has more power. That's part of the reason why he was in a higher weight class than Jermell.
Well it's all moot now. Jermall has mental health issues. And Canelo will continue to fight lower weight guys. Crawford or Spence would be stupid to fight Canelo.
Can't help but think about Andre Ward. Canelo and GGG dodged him. So instead he went up a weight class and handled undefeated Kovalev, twice. Meanwhile Canelo waits an extra two years. And then gets his only light heavy win when Kovalev was properly washed up.
It's a business. I get it. But Canelo should really be answering the Bivol question. _________________ When the world grows. Grow with it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:05 pm Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
ExPatLkrFan wrote:
jodeke wrote:
gumby wrote:
Surprised Charlo didn't use his speed, reach, and movement to his advantage. I wasn't rooting for Charlo, but very surprised he didn't try to outbox Canelo since he wasn't gonna win by power.
Bye.
Saul wouldn't let him. Once he knew Charlo couldn't hurt him he just walked him down. It's the old, I'll take one to give one.
Not necessarily who hits hardest but who can take the others best shot. It appeared to me Charlo was in survival mode the whole fight.
I'm looking for Alvarez to offer Tank Davis a fight (at a catch weight). Anything other than fight David Benavides.
I wasn't surprised by the result. This is why I wanted Jermall Charlo to fight Canelo. Years ago.
Canelo was playing dumb before the fight. Saying he didn't care which one he fought. They are twins they are the same.
Nah, everybody knows Jermall. Has more power. That's part of the reason why he was in a higher weight class than Jermell.
Well it's all moot now. Jermall has mental health issues. And Canelo will continue to fight lower weight guys. Crawford or Spence would be stupid to fight Canelo.
Can't help but think about Andre Ward. Canelo and GGG dodged him. So instead he went up a weight class and handled undefeated Kovalev, twice. Meanwhile Canelo waits an extra two years. And then gets his only light heavy win when Kovalev was properly washed up.
It's a business. I get it. But Canelo should really be answering the Bivol question.
He don't want no Bivol or Benavidez smoke _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:14 pm Post subject:
Tyson Fury 33 0 1 vs 17-3-0 Francis Ngannou Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on Saturday, Oct. 28. Ngannou has never had a professional boxing match. He's a MMA fighter. Fury's getting on the boxing gravy train. The overdue Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk fight has damaged Fury's brand. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on Saturday, Oct. 28. Ngannou has never had a professional boxing match. He's a MMA fighter. Fury's getting on the boxing gravy train. The overdue Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk fight has damaged Fury's brand.
I’m expecting Fury knocking out Francis, I mean Francis isn’t better than Wilder _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:45 am Post subject:
I'm watching the Fury prelims. Every fight I've watched resulted in KO's. The only name I know is Joseph Parker. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:59 am Post subject:
governator wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on Saturday, Oct. 28. Ngannou has never had a professional boxing match. He's a MMA fighter. Fury's getting on the boxing gravy train. The overdue Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk fight has damaged Fury's brand.
I’m expecting Fury knocking out Francis, I mean Francis isn’t better than Wilder
Of course.
The same way Ngannou would beat Fury in MMA. _________________ When the world grows. Grow with it.
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:08 pm Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
governator wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on Saturday, Oct. 28. Ngannou has never had a professional boxing match. He's a MMA fighter. Fury's getting on the boxing gravy train. The overdue Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk fight has damaged Fury's brand.
I’m expecting Fury knocking out Francis, I mean Francis isn’t better than Wilder
Of course.
The same way Ngannou would beat Fury in MMA.
Yup!
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:52 pm Post subject:
Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94) _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Wow, Ngannou has that triple G granite chin. Fury looking like he took this fight way too lightly, blubber shape but forget all that, I wanna see Ngannou vs Wilder _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:33 am Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94)
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to Ngannou. He represented himself well. _________________ When the world grows. Grow with it.
Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94)
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to Ngannou. He represented himself well.
Ngannou can and should go for a big payday, at 37, I mean who wouldn’t pay big money to see him take Wilder or Joshua, he doesn’t need UFC anymore _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:54 am Post subject:
governator wrote:
kikanga wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94)
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to Ngannou. He represented himself well.
Ngannou can and should go for a big payday, at 37, I mean who wouldn’t pay big money to see him take Wilder or Joshua, he doesn’t need UFC anymore
I'd like to see him get a big payday also. I don't think he's ready for Wilder or Joshua. A fighter of lesser quality might be the way to go. I agree with kik. I don't think The Gypsy King took this fight seriously and was out of shape. I think a rematch would bring a different result. I don't know if he'd knock Francis out because he showed a chin but I think he'd school him. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves.
Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94)
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to Ngannou. He represented himself well.
Ngannou can and should go for a big payday, at 37, I mean who wouldn’t pay big money to see him take Wilder or Joshua, he doesn’t need UFC anymore
I'd like to see him get a big payday also. I don't think he's ready for Wilder or Joshua. A fighter of lesser quality might be the way to go. I agree with kik. I don't think The Gypsy King took this fight seriously and was out of shape. I think a rematch would bring a different result. I don't know if he'd knock Francis out because he showed a chin but I think he'd school him.
Bro, out of shape or not, dude just took the champ’s punches and didn’t even look hurt at all. Plus we already know he got that KO power, he can absolutely go toe to toe with Wilder/AJ who’s not as technically sound as Fury _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:04 am Post subject:
governator wrote:
jodeke wrote:
governator wrote:
kikanga wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Fury didn't look good. It looked like Ngannou surprised Fury with his boxing skills. Francis knocked Tyson down in round 3. I thought the fight was a draw. The Gypsy King's reputation was tarnished. He's lost his luster.
Tyson Fury def. Francis Ngannou via split decision (96-93, 94-95, 95-94)
Classic Fury. He's a rollercoaster. Either extremely motivated and locked in or he's an out of shape, partying, slob.
Kudos to willw. He represented himself well.
Ngannou can and should go for a big payday, at 37, I mean who wouldn’t pay big money to see him take Wilder or Joshua, he doesn’t need UFC anymore
I'd like to see him get a big payday also. I don't think he's ready for Wilder or Joshua. A fighter of lesser quality might be the way to go. I agree with kik. I don't think The Gypsy King took this fight seriously and was out of shape. I think a rematch would bring a different result. I don't know if he'd knock Francis out because he showed a chin .
Bro, out of shape or not,dude just took the champ’s punches and didn’t even look hurt at all. Plus we already know he got that KO power, he can absolutely go toe to toe with Wilder/AJ who’s not as technically sound as Fury
Note the bold green above.
I think he'd have a better chance of beating AJ. I don't think he'd beat Wilder. It wouldn't be wise to go toe to toe with either. Ngannou's previous boxing skills will improve with time. Listening to post fight interviews I think he intends to pursue a boxing career. His age says, huuurup! He's a little long in the tooth. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Ngannou could beat AJ, and he might fold Wilder. However, if Wilder lands (which he will), it could be a short night for Ngannou, who has never felt Wilder's level of power before. I got BOMBSQUAD by KO3 if that fight happens. I thought Ngannou beat Fury clearly, but boxing decisions are corrupt to the point of being a running joke at this point. Ngannou would hurt AJ badly, and we've seen AJ quit before to a fat man. Ngannou is the #2 ranked HW at minimum after what he did to Fury imo.
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:20 pm Post subject:
Ryan Garcia vs. Oscar Duarte tonight. DAZN. I can watch it on my IPTV provider _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:40 pm Post subject:
Garcia got an 8th round KO. I didn't like the ref warning Duarte for hitting Ryan in the back. Garcia kept turning his back to him. Looked like he was protecting his liver. Gervonta Davis KO'd him with a liver shot in his last fight.
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:12 pm Post subject:
This weekend has some great fights scheduled. Deontay Wilder vs. Joseph Parker, Anthony Joshua vs. Otto Wallin, and Dmitrii Bivol vs. Lyndon Arthur. I don't know which fight is the main event will be. I believe they'll be on DAZN. I'll be able to watch with my IPTV. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:27 pm Post subject:
Fights are in Saudia Arabia.
Jarrell Big Baby Miller got beat down by Daniel Dubois 10th round TKO.
Dmitry Bivol vs Lyndon Arthur fight on now. I havn't seen Bivol since he beat Canelo Alvarez.
Bivol pitched a shutout on all 3 cards.12 rounds 120-108. Bivol is the best combination puncher I've seen in years. I see why he frustrated and beat Canelo.
Deante Wilder vs Joseph Parker on now. Wilder looks thin. He weighed 231 when he fought Fury. He weighs 214 today. Parker weighs 241.
Wilder lost. He looked horrible. He lost a unanamous decision. I gave him 2 rounds.
Anthony Joshua defeats Otto Wallin via corner stoppage. It looked like Wallin had a broken nose. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Dang, was hoping wilder still got it but 38yrs old is 38yrs old, had a hell of a run tho, same with triple G
Heavyweight div is mad boring now, thank god for Francis but he’s also up there in age lol. Make the UK super fight Fury-AJ, Francis can still get it with Wilder but wilder prob need a tune up puff fight, somebody he can KO easily _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:35 am Post subject:
governator wrote:
Dang, was hoping wilder still got it but 38yrs old is 38yrs old, had a hell of a run tho, same with triple G
Heavyweight div is mad boring now, thank god for Francis but he’s also up there in age lol. Make the UK super fight Fury-AJ, Francis can still get it with Wilder but wilder prob need a tune up puff fight, somebody he can KO easily
Wilder was thin as a rail. He had a skeletal look. No muscle or fat mass. He sounded like the Aaron Rogers that went to a dark place. Deante didn't have the fire or killer instinct of old. His estimated net worth is $50 million. I think he may be done fighting. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:21 am Post subject:
If Wilder were serious or in the right place, he would have been more active and not looked like a shell of himself only looking for that big right. I do think he is done unless he comes back to prove he's serious. But then again, I didn't think he was a great fighter, not that his right wasn't an equalizer. But still.
Some people are complaining they won't see Wilder and Joshua anymore. Probably would have been the same result or worse for Wilder.
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Canelo Said To Be Likely Facing Jermall Charlo, Then Terence Crawford
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Naturally all this leaves out David Benavidez, perhaps the biggest challenge Canelo could face at super middleweight. Charlo, after all, has only fought a single time at super middleweight. Crawford, on the other hand, is a welterweight. And while it’s been said that Crawford is going to move up to junior middleweight soon, there’s little doubt that he and Canelo would have to meet at some kind of catchweight should they fight. Yet Benavidez is young, strong, and undefeated. Furthermore, Benavidez wouldn’t have to move up in weight to face Canelo – he’s already a super middleweight, and has been for a while.
Canelo, though, is at the point in his brilliant career where he can choose whoever it is he’d like to fight. Seen through that particular lens, the choice of Charlo, then Crawford makes a lot of sense. Canelo would be a considerable favorite against both men, after all. He might be the favorite if he were to fight Benavidez, too, of course, but not as much of one. On top of all that, Canelo has reached such a level of respect and popularity that he won’t be widely faulted for his choice of opponents, provided he squares off against Benavidez sooner rather than later.
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