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Z_Lakers
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Ebanks and Caracter definitely stood out and they can be had for cheap on our roster. Frank Robinson looked solid early on. Green definitely sucked for a 5 yr nba player.
Ebanks, Caracter, Robinson and I kinda like Courtney Sims as well...an extra big body! |
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revgen
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| LaKeRsLiVe wrote: | | I don't know what some of you were seeing. But Jabber was killing me all night. Ill-advised shots, over dribbling, missing great passing opportunities. The kid could barely dribble the ball up the court without a struggle. Strawberry is much more likely to get a camp invite in my eye |
I don't know what player you were watching, but it wasn't Jaaber.
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puddlegoo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| chantruong wrote: | | caracter = kwame |
Ban. |
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ssiknick833
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| puddlegoo wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | caracter = kwame |
Ban. |
Not ban. Looked to be the case. Dude has no hands and limited athleticism.
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hellsling
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| that was only one play |
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puddlegoo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | caracter = kwame |
Ban. |
Not ban. Looked to be the case. Dude has no hands and limited athleticism. |
Which game were you watching? Caracter has a nice low-post game. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| StuLantz#1 wrote: | | cKPayasoLoco wrote: | | StuLantz#1 wrote: | | Really good showing by Ebanks and Caracter for their 1st game. Obviously there are some problems, but there's some good talent there too. I like their numbers, but won't go crazy about it since I see no names on Detroit like White, Daye, and Jerebko scoring 17, 22, and 16 respectively. |
Lol Jerebko was a starter last yr and daye was a high draft pick |
 I've never heard of Daye, but I'll give you that one. I still consider Jerebko a no name. |
Then I guess you don't remember Jerebko lighting us up for 15 points last December either.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | caracter = kwame |
Ban. |
Not ban. Looked to be the case. Dude has no hands and limited athleticism. |
His greatest sin was not protecting those rebounds; not quite the same as having band hands.
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ssiknick833
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| puddlegoo wrote: | | ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | caracter = kwame |
Ban. |
Not ban. Looked to be the case. Dude has no hands and limited athleticism. |
Which game were you watching? Caracter has a nice low-post game. |
Admittedly, i didn't watch the whole game. But the few plays i saw weren't good. Need to see more of him obviously.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Not going to pronounce them future hall-of-famers yet, but Ebanks and Caracter looked like they're at least good enough to be benchwarmers at the NBA level, so I'd say they're making the team. Liked Caracter's shooting touch, and Ebanks' hustle. I was surprised how good Ebanks looked coming off screens and stroking the short jumper. |
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puddlegoo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | caracter = kwame |
Ban. |
Not ban. Looked to be the case. Dude has no hands and limited athleticism. |
Which game were you watching? Caracter has a nice low-post game. |
Admittedly, i didn't watch the whole game. But the few plays i saw weren't good. Need to see more of him obviously. |
He looked pretty bad on defense (9 fouls, although he had a couple of blocks), but he was spectacular at times on the offensive side. He has a very smooth low-post game and a nice 15-foot jumper. The Kwame comparison could not be further from the truth. |
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hellsling
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| So I guess you judge Caracter on one play where he fumbled his first post entry pass... |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys for the recap, missed the game today but from what I read looks like ebanks and caracter were steals, loving it! 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | caracter = kwame |
Ban. |
Not ban. Looked to be the case. Dude has no hands and limited athleticism. |
Which game were you watching? Caracter has a nice low-post game. |
Admittedly, i didn't watch the whole game. But the few plays i saw weren't good. Need to see more of him obviously. |
Probably because a third of the game got preempted for that Miami BS
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| City_Dawg wrote: | | ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | caracter = kwame |
Ban. |
Not ban. Looked to be the case. Dude has no hands and limited athleticism. |
Which game were you watching? Caracter has a nice low-post game. |
Admittedly, i didn't watch the whole game. But the few plays i saw weren't good. Need to see more of him obviously. |
Probably because a third of the game got preempted for that Miami BS |
haha, caracter definitely looks more skilled than kwame but caracter does look a little bit like him though  |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| angrypuppy wrote: | | StuLantz#1 wrote: | | cKPayasoLoco wrote: | | StuLantz#1 wrote: | | Really good showing by Ebanks and Caracter for their 1st game. Obviously there are some problems, but there's some good talent there too. I like their numbers, but won't go crazy about it since I see no names on Detroit like White, Daye, and Jerebko scoring 17, 22, and 16 respectively. |
Lol Jerebko was a starter last yr and daye was a high draft pick |
I've never heard of Daye, but I'll give you that one. I still consider Jerebko a no name. |
Then I guess you don't remember Jerebko lighting us up for 15 points last December either. |
And Jerebko made NBA All-Rookie 2nd team last year.
Ebanks matched a #15 overall pick and Caracter outplayed a #7 overall pick. That's a good start for the #43 pick and the #58 pick. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I was impressed with Ebanks. The Ariza description is pretty spot on, as he can finish well, plays good defense and looks like him (even was wearing number 3, which was Ariza's old number, too.)
I was surprised by Ebanks' height as he looked a bit taller than Ariza, probably more like 6' 9". His taller height made him seem a tiny bit slower than Ariza, or lacked Ariza's explosiveness and quickness, but still very quick and athletic for his height. He finished well, making some layups and ran the fast break so he'll be good in the transition game.
I liked his energy, and he showed nice hustle when shot a jumper that bricked and was rebounded by a guard the Piston team, and he chased the guard down and stole the ball back.
I liked the fact that most of his points came within the flow of the game and he didn't try to force things. The announcers on NBA TV said his points came effortlessly, and I agree. His mid-range jumper seems decent (better than Ariza coming out of UCLA), but does need to work on the long-range shots. He didn't seem selfish and looked to pass the ball, and knew how to move without the ball, using a screen to get a jumper off.
Defensively he isn't flashy like Ariza, who would play the passing lanes for steals, but Ebanks rather plays more solid man-to-man defense, relying on proper footwork and angles to defend his man which I think is more fundamentally sound than what Ariza did. He seems a bit stronger than Ariza too. I liked the fact that he would box out his man on rebounds.
He is like a less flashy (doesn't dunk as nice, defensive is more fundamental and constant rather than going for steals in passing lanes), but more versatile (and slightly taller) Ariza on both the defensive and offensive end is what I'd characterize Ebanks. Nice pickup. If Ebanks jumper gets more range and gets more consistant, I'd say he could be just as good as Ariza, I maybe might prefer him for his taller height and his style of defense. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ariza Height W/ Shoes: 6'8.25
Ebanks Height W/ Shoes: 6'8.25
Ariza Weight: 201
Ebanks Weight: 208
Ariza Wingspan: 7'2
Ebanks: Wingspan: 7'0.25
Ariza Standing Reach: 8'11.5
Ebanks Standing Reach: 8'11.5
Ariza Standing Vert: 29.5
Ebanks Standing Vert: 23.5
Ariza Max Vert: 32.0
Ebanks Max Vert: 32.0
Ariza Lane Agility: 11.63
Ebanks Lane Agility: 11.69
Ariza 3/4 Court Sprint: 3.29
Ebanks 3/4 Court Sprint: 3.44
Ariza @ UCLA: 25 Games, 31.6 minutes, 14.7 PPG (42.6%, 23.7% from 3), 6.5 RPG, 2.1 APG, 1.7 SPG
Ebanks @ WVU: 34 Games, 34.1 minutes, 12.0 PPG (45.7%, 10.0% from 3), 8.1 RPG, 2.4 APG, 1.1 SPG
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah that was the weird thing. I knew about those stats regarding his height. But Ebanks just "seemed" bigger and little thicker. Even the NBA TV announcers remarked on that too, that he looked taller than listed. Dunno, maybe it could have the Summer League uniforms. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| ssiknick833 wrote: | | puddlegoo wrote: | | chantruong wrote: | | caracter = kwame |
Ban. |
Not ban. Looked to be the case. Dude has no hands and limited athleticism. |
one game. wait until he gets coached the same amount as Kwame.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| banks 10% from down town? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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For those who missed the game the replay is streaming online @ espn3
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| StuLantz#1 wrote: | | lalakeshow88 wrote: | | ebanks need to work on his 3's. |
Just his perimeter game in general. Anything jumpshot related is very sketchy. He's like a transition and garbage play guy around the basket, which is unfortunately a big handicap in the NBA. He needs to work on that a lot, and keep trying to drive the ball the basket. |
Actually, he has a pretty good mid-range game, which will serve him and us well. It's from distance that he struggles. |
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| Tris wrote: | | hellsling wrote: | Wow didnt notice the Pistons had 40 free throws  |
Stern is rigging the summer league too. Look at the odd against Lakers in Vegas.  |
Beat me to it. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| oldschool32 wrote: | | uberzev wrote: | | Would rather have Strawberry |
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I thought he was the other guy that stood out after Ebanks and DC.
He will give Critt a battle in camp. |
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