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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject:

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What exactly is the definition of a "HARD PUSH"?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject:

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HANG TIME CAPITAL BUREAU — While the Toronto Raptors and New York Knicks have made strong pushes for free agent guard Steve Nash, the Los Angeles Lakers have, quietly, entered the fray for the 38-year-old guard and are making a strong bid to acquire him, according to a league source.

The Lakers, with a payroll already projected in excess of $83 million next season, would only be able to offer Nash an exception starting at $3.09 million for next season. It’s unlikely Nash would take that, so a sign-and-trade deal would be a more realistic possibility.

The Lakers do have a viable starting point guard they could send Phoenix in such a deal, Ramon Sessions, who became an unrestricted free agent after surprisingly opting out of the last year of his contract. Forwards Jordan Hill and Matt Barnes are also free agents.

The Lakers have also been looking to rid themselves of forward Metta World Peace, who has two years and $15 million remaining on his deal. But the Suns aren’t believed to be interested in World Peace.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject:

If Nash were amenable to playing for the Lakers and settling for the max LA can offer with a TPE, Lakers could trade the TPE and a future pick for Nash and package the expiring contracts of Goudelock, McRoberts and Eyenga for either Warrick or Frye. Not a great haul for Phoenix, but better than losing him for nothing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject:

smokescreen to scare sessions
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject:

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smokescreen to scare sessions
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject:

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If Nash were amenable to playing for the Lakers and settling for the max LA can offer with a TPE, Lakers could trade the TPE and a future pick for Nash and package the expiring contracts of Goudelock, McRoberts and Eyenga for either Warrick or Frye. Not a great haul for Phoenix, but better than losing him for nothing.


What future picks do the Lakers have?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject:

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Why is it ridiculous nonsense? Shaq in Phoenix averaged 18/9. He still had game. When you have such a slow player on the team, it takes away from Nash's strengths. He's still great because he's such a great player and he's adjustable but you can't sacrifice the game of so many players.
We get Nash, we sacrifice him. Keep Gasol, sacrifice him. That's 2 players. It doesn't work like that. You ought to maximize the talents you have.

Nash and Bynum is a terrible fit IMO.


What happened when Bynum posted up? The guy guarding the post entry passer sat in Bynum's lap. With Nash, that can't happen, Nash can either shoot the open J or make the pass. If the pass is made and Nash's guy goes to double Bynum, Nash won't wait until it's too late to cut to the hoop, he'll make the cut and if he's open Bynum will make the pass to him, if not then Bynum scores one on one.

The Lakers biggest problem happened with the post entry passer being afraid to shoot when his guy fronted Bynum. This happens with Ron all the time and it happened with Sessions.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject:

No it was Terry Porter being a terrible coach. I never understood why people assume Nash can only play in an uptempo system when the majority of his game is predicated on the pick and roll a stable of half court offenses.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject:

Not advocating for this, but if LA did a sign and trade with Hill (at 3.8) and Sessions (at around 5.7), they could give Nash his 12 mil.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject:

Is it just me, or does it seem like every team except us has improved this off-season?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject:

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Brett Pollakoff: If Lakers can't do better dealing Gasol, a sign and trade for Nash may be enough to get it done. But doubtful Nash wants LA over NY or TOR.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject:

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Is it just me, or does it seem like every team except us has improved this off-season?


The Mavs?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject:

solarbeat wrote:
iggypop123 wrote:
smokescreen to scare sessions


honestly this makes the most sense
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject:

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Is it just me, or does it seem like every team except us has improved this off-season?


too early, using your time period the mavs are worse than us
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject:

Crazy Like Ron Artest wrote:
Why is it ridiculous nonsense? Shaq in Phoenix averaged 18/9. He still had game. When you have such a slow player on the team, it takes away from Nash's strengths. He's still great because he's such a great player and he's adjustable but you can't sacrifice the game of so many players.
We get Nash, we sacrifice him. Keep Gasol, sacrifice him. That's 2 players. It doesn't work like that. You ought to maximize the talents you have.

Nash and Bynum is a terrible fit IMO.

Actually, Shaq's PPG and FG% went up in the full year he played with Nash, compared with the previous few seasons. Even though he was 36 years old, playing in his 17th season, and not in great shape. Hell, even his FT% went up.

And when he left, his PPG (and FG%) went down. There's simply no factual basis for your opinion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject:

Sign and trade package.

Sessions $5 mil per for 3 years
Hill $5 mil per for 3 years

For

Nash $10 mil per for 2 years

Does Nash say no to $20 million and two good shots at a ring?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject:

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HANG TIME CAPITAL BUREAU — While the Toronto Raptors and New York Knicks have made strong pushes for free agent guard Steve Nash, the Los Angeles Lakers have, quietly, entered the fray for the 38-year-old guard and are making a strong bid to acquire him, according to a league source.

The Lakers, with a payroll already projected in excess of $83 million next season, would only be able to offer Nash an exception starting at $3.09 million for next season. It’s unlikely Nash would take that, so a sign-and-trade deal would be a more realistic possibility.

The Lakers do have a viable starting point guard they could send Phoenix in such a deal, Ramon Sessions, who became an unrestricted free agent after surprisingly opting out of the last year of his contract. Forwards Jordan Hill and Matt Barnes are also free agents.

The Lakers have also been looking to rid themselves of forward Metta World Peace, who has two years and $15 million remaining on his deal. But the Suns aren’t believed to be interested in World Peace.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject:

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Sign and trade package.

Sessions $5 mil per for 3 years
Hill $5 mil per for 3 years

For

Nash $10 mil per for 2 years

Does Nash say no to $20 million and two good shots at a ring?


We can't give hill more than 3.8.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject:

Maybe not but the Suns lost their mojo after getting Shaq IMO. They stopped playing their game and having Shaq actually hurt them. Yes, they needed to add some size but Shaq was all wrong for them. I see a lot of the same with Bynum.
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Brett Pollakoff: If Lakers can't do better dealing Gasol, a sign and trade for Nash may be enough to get it done. But doubtful Nash wants LA over NY or TOR.


only way it makes sense trade gasol for Nash 1 year deal, amnesty metta next off-season try for Paul, but essentially tanking one year
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Alex Kennedy: Let's not forget, Steve Nash was recently quoted as saying, "For me, it would be hard to put on a Lakers jersey. That’s just the way it is."



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject:

24 wrote:
Not advocating for this, but if LA did a sign and trade with Hill (at 3.8) and Sessions (at around 5.7), they could give Nash his 12 mil.

Hmmm. But why would Phx want to invest longterm in Sessions? They have drafted a PG who they believe can be a starter or big minute player at PG down the road for them. They also have Brooks bird rights and want to re-sign him.

I think they'll not want to waste valuable longterm capspace (12 M per) in Sessions/Hill, that could go to an impact starter or all-star caliber player, next summer.

Also if they lose Nash, I think the goal would be to tank for a year and aim for a high lotto pick and get some capspace next summer.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject:

24 wrote:
Not advocating for this, but if LA did a sign and trade with Hill (at 3.8) and Sessions (at around 5.7), they could give Nash his 12 mil.


We'd be losing depth, but we could potentially get it back with a Pau trade. Then we could use the TPE to acquire Mayo. Wet (bleep) dream.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject:

it would be nice to get someone automatic from 3 on this team
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