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DLO is elite playmaker, elite shooter, solid defender. Yet no one wants to offer him a contract for a modest 19 million/y and the Lakers cant trade him.

Woops forgot to add he actually thrives in the playoffs.

Hmm something doesnt add up.


It’s the deception, creation of false narratives, and denial, that’s what doesn’t add up. It’s like adding “solid defender” to the list above, a calculated move to make it seem like that’s what has been promoted, which it hasn’t. By including that obvious false invention tho it overshadows…and allows for dismissal and disregard of…the other parts, which appears to be the intent. If you believe, just tell the truth, if that’s something that can be done regarding the topic.

Dlo is an elite playmaker and 3pt shooter who struggles defensively and has performed poorly in some playoff games. The good may not…perhaps it does…outweigh the bad so maybe the Lakers should look for someone better, but it would look like a downgrade unless contributions are accounted for with new additions or existing personnel.The truth isn’t as hard to identify as it seems.


MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.
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MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


"Solid to above average" means that I'm ranking solid beneath above average. And it's also nowhere near calling him an elite defender nor is it saying he has no weaknesses. You just don't like credit being given to him where it's due and decide to run with hyperbole.

Reading literacy is lost among too many people. Hanging on every word I say while not understanding any of it is not a good thing.

Rafters goes at things with the kind of nuance you should, but you decide hyperbole and embellishment is a better tactic to get people on your side. It's just you.
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MJST wrote:
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MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


"Solid to above average" means that I'm ranking solid beneath above average. And it's also nowhere near calling him an elite defender nor is it saying he has no weaknesses. You just don't like credit being given to him where it's due and decide to run with hyperbole.

Reading literacy is lost among too many people.

Rafters is what you should be, but you decide hyperbole and embellishment is a better tactic to get people on your side. It's just you.


I literally quoted you.

You said he was an elite playmaker and elite shooter and a solid defender. Where is the lie? What did I emblish?

Are you projecting?
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Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:

MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


"Solid to above average" means that I'm ranking solid beneath above average. And it's also nowhere near calling him an elite defender nor is it saying he has no weaknesses. You just don't like credit being given to him where it's due and decide to run with hyperbole.

Reading literacy is lost among too many people.

Rafters is what you should be, but you decide hyperbole and embellishment is a better tactic to get people on your side. It's just you.


I literally quoted you.

You said he was an elite playmaker and elite shooter and a solid defender. Where is the lie? What did I emblish?

Are you projecting?


Hanging on every word I say while not understanding any of it is not a good thing.

Go read what I just said. It's in the first sentence. Or do I need to add the word "enough" at the end of "solid' in order for you to get it?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:48 pm    Post subject:

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Game 5 we were in it late and DLo hit the big shots he was supposed to down the stretch to put us in the game, and then we lose it at the end.



Are you making this up? D'lo was 2/7 and 1/5 from 3 in the 2nd half before he finally got a layup to fall late in the game. Reaves is the one who had 9 points in the 4th and put the Lakers in position to close out. D'lo was benched on the last possession before they couldn't trust his solid defense. You don't really have any credibility when it comes to D'lo because you can't be objective.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:48 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:

MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


"Solid to above average" means that I'm ranking solid beneath above average. And it's also nowhere near calling him an elite defender nor is it saying he has no weaknesses. You just don't like credit being given to him where it's due and decide to run with hyperbole.

Reading literacy is lost among too many people.

Rafters is what you should be, but you decide hyperbole and embellishment is a better tactic to get people on your side. It's just you.


I literally quoted you.

You said he was an elite playmaker and elite shooter and a solid defender. Where is the lie? What did I emblish?

Are you projecting?


Hanging on every word I say while not understanding any of it is not a good thing.

Go read what I just said. It's in the first sentence.


Again I quoted you. Just because it sounds ridiculous when someone says it back to you does not mean I am embelishing. It means you are.
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Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:

MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


"Solid to above average" means that I'm ranking solid beneath above average. And it's also nowhere near calling him an elite defender nor is it saying he has no weaknesses. You just don't like credit being given to him where it's due and decide to run with hyperbole.

Reading literacy is lost among too many people.

Rafters is what you should be, but you decide hyperbole and embellishment is a better tactic to get people on your side. It's just you.


I literally quoted you.

You said he was an elite playmaker and elite shooter and a solid defender. Where is the lie? What did I emblish?

Are you projecting?


Hanging on every word I say while not understanding any of it is not a good thing.

Go read what I just said. It's in the first sentence.


Again I quoted you. Just be


Hanging on every word I say while not understanding any of it is not a good thing.

Go read what I just said. It's in the first sentence. Or do I need to add the word "enough" at the end of "solid' in order for you to get it?

Address what I just said or don't bother replying. Quit trying to ignore it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:51 pm    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
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Game 5 we were in it late and DLo hit the big shots he was supposed to down the stretch to put us in the game, and then we lose it at the end.



Are you making this up? D'lo was 2/7 and 1/5 from 3 in the 2nd half before he finally got a layup to fall late in the game. Reaves is the one who had 9 points in the 4th and put the Lakers in position to close out. You don't really have any credibility when it comes to D'lo because you can't be objective.



I literally said he hit big shots down the stretch of the game that put us in the game and we lost at the end. Care to show me where that's false? Never even mentioned Reaves or implied he didn't play well in Game 6.

Reading is not difficult.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:52 pm    Post subject:

What am I ignoring? Are you saying DLO is or isnt a solid defender?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:53 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
manlisten wrote:
MJST wrote:

Game 5 we were in it late and DLo hit the big shots he was supposed to down the stretch to put us in the game, and then we lose it at the end.



Are you making this up? D'lo was 2/7 and 1/5 from 3 in the 2nd half before he finally got a layup to fall late in the game. Reaves is the one who had 9 points in the 4th and put the Lakers in position to close out. You don't really have any credibility when it comes to D'lo because you can't be objective.



I literally said he hit big shots down the stretch of the game that put us in the game and we lost at the end. Care to show me where that's false? Never even mentioned Reaves or implied he didn't play well in Game 6.

Reading is not difficult.


You're starting to spiral out of control. The stress of defending everything D'lo does is getting to you.
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What am I ignoring? Are you saying DLO is or isnt a solid defender?


I said that DLO just needed to be solid to above average, and he was solid.

Using reading comprehension if I said "solid to above average" which am I ranking higher?

Because you don't understand or are just playing ignorant. I'm saying he needed to be solid enough to above average and he was the former.

If you think solid = elite, that is your perspective. However because it's subjective I intentionally put solid below above average for a reason so you know where I was placing it. But you missed it every single time, as expected.

To break it down further. Solid in this context is me saying he just needed to do well enough to above average. As in no suck and not be a traffic cone and be an improvement over last season where he was below average to bad down the stretch and why he was out of the rotation.

I shouldn't have to explain something so easy to grasp to you. But you like to play dumb or miss what I wrote so there's an easy explanation for you. If you don't get it by now you aren't going to.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:56 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
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What am I ignoring? Are you saying DLO is or isnt a solid defender?


I said that DLO just needed to be solid to above average, and he was solid.

Using reading comprehension if I said "solid to above average" which am I ranking higher?

Because you don't understand or are just playing ignorant. I'm saying he needed to be solid enough to above average and he was the former.

If you think solid = elite, that is your perspective. However because it's subjective I intentionally put solid below above average for a reason so you know where I was placing it. But you missed it every single time, as expected.


Im so confused. I literally wrote solid? Nowhere did I write that you said he was an elite or above average defender.

Are you ok?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:57 pm    Post subject:

Ksig wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
Ksig wrote:
DLO is elite playmaker, elite shooter, solid defender. Yet no one wants to offer him a contract for a modest 19 million/y and the Lakers cant trade him.

Woops forgot to add he actually thrives in the playoffs.

Hmm something doesnt add up.


It’s the deception, creation of false narratives, and denial, that’s what doesn’t add up. It’s like adding “solid defender” to the list above, a calculated move to make it seem like that’s what has been promoted, which it hasn’t. By including that obvious false invention tho it overshadows…and allows for dismissal and disregard of…the other parts, which appears to be the intent. If you believe, just tell the truth, if that’s something that can be done regarding the topic.

Dlo is an elite playmaker and 3pt shooter who struggles defensively and has performed poorly in some playoff games. The good may not…perhaps it does…outweigh the bad so maybe the Lakers should look for someone better, but it would look like a downgrade unless contributions are accounted for with new additions or existing personnel.The truth isn’t as hard to identify as it seems.


MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


Fair, there needs to be clarification regarding a solid defender. The point shouldn’t be missed tho because “thrives in the playoffs” was also part of the sarcasm, imo, used as a smokescreen to hide the contributions. If you add things in a list with 2 obvious falsehoods it gives the impression it’s all false. That was the calculated move of denial even if done subconsciously.

It’s ok to admit any player has issues when pointing out their contributions. Just the same, it’s ok to recognize the contributions when pointing out problems. It seems to me in an effort to “win arguments”, many respond as if a stance has to be taken to deny obvious truths.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:58 pm    Post subject:

Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
What am I ignoring? Are you saying DLO is or isnt a solid defender?


I said that DLO just needed to be solid to above average, and he was solid.

Using reading comprehension if I said "solid to above average" which am I ranking higher?

Because you don't understand or are just playing ignorant. I'm saying he needed to be solid enough to above average and he was the former.

If you think solid = elite, that is your perspective. However because it's subjective I intentionally put solid below above average for a reason so you know where I was placing it. But you missed it every single time, as expected.


Im so confused. I literally wrote solid?


Yeah, but you don't seem to grasp where I considered solid. I considered solid beneath above average and more or less doing enough, and being an improvement over last season. Do you understand that at minimum?

I said solid to above average for that very reason and said he played the former and you missed it every single time. That means he didn't play above average defense but it was solid enough. Got it now?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:59 pm    Post subject:

Hanging from Rafters wrote:
Ksig wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
Ksig wrote:
DLO is elite playmaker, elite shooter, solid defender. Yet no one wants to offer him a contract for a modest 19 million/y and the Lakers cant trade him.

Woops forgot to add he actually thrives in the playoffs.

Hmm something doesnt add up.


It’s the deception, creation of false narratives, and denial, that’s what doesn’t add up. It’s like adding “solid defender” to the list above, a calculated move to make it seem like that’s what has been promoted, which it hasn’t. By including that obvious false invention tho it overshadows…and allows for dismissal and disregard of…the other parts, which appears to be the intent. If you believe, just tell the truth, if that’s something that can be done regarding the topic.

Dlo is an elite playmaker and 3pt shooter who struggles defensively and has performed poorly in some playoff games. The good may not…perhaps it does…outweigh the bad so maybe the Lakers should look for someone better, but it would look like a downgrade unless contributions are accounted for with new additions or existing personnel.The truth isn’t as hard to identify as it seems.


MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


Fair, I don’t agree that he was a solid defender. The point shouldn’t be missed tho because “thrives in the playoffs” was also part of the sarcasm, imo, used to dismiss the contributions. It’s just ok to admit Dlo has issues when pointing out his contributions. Just the same, it’s ok to recognize the contributions when pointing out his problems. It seems to me in an effort to “win arguments”, many respond as if a stance has to be taken denying obvious truths.


I dont deny DLO has had some good games in the playoffs. I am objective when it comes to him. Maybe it doesnt seem that way because Im debating half the time with MJST.
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MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
What am I ignoring? Are you saying DLO is or isnt a solid defender?


I said that DLO just needed to be solid to above average, and he was solid.

Using reading comprehension if I said "solid to above average" which am I ranking higher?

Because you don't understand or are just playing ignorant. I'm saying he needed to be solid enough to above average and he was the former.

If you think solid = elite, that is your perspective. However because it's subjective I intentionally put solid below above average for a reason so you know where I was placing it. But you missed it every single time, as expected.


Im so confused. I literally wrote solid?


Yeah, but you don't seem to grasp where I considered solid. I considered solid beneath above average and more or less doing enough, and being an improvement over last season. Do you understand that at minimum?

I said solid to above average for that very reason and you missed it every single time.


What? Yes I know what solid means. You seem to think that I dont know what solid means for some reason. What a strange series of posts.
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Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
What am I ignoring? Are you saying DLO is or isnt a solid defender?


I said that DLO just needed to be solid to above average, and he was solid.

Using reading comprehension if I said "solid to above average" which am I ranking higher?

Because you don't understand or are just playing ignorant. I'm saying he needed to be solid enough to above average and he was the former.

If you think solid = elite, that is your perspective. However because it's subjective I intentionally put solid below above average for a reason so you know where I was placing it. But you missed it every single time, as expected.


Im so confused. I literally wrote solid?


Yeah, but you don't seem to grasp where I considered solid. I considered solid beneath above average and more or less doing enough, and being an improvement over last season. Do you understand that at minimum?

I said solid to above average for that very reason and you missed it every single time.


What? Yes I know what solid means. You seem to think that I dont know what solid means for some reason. What a strange series of posts.


In the context I put it in, it means he didn't play above average defense but it was solid enough. Got it now? Thats why I ranked it beneath above average in the sentence you liked quoting.

Again, it shouldn't be difficult to get.
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Hanging from Rafters wrote:
Ksig wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
Ksig wrote:
DLO is elite playmaker, elite shooter, solid defender. Yet no one wants to offer him a contract for a modest 19 million/y and the Lakers cant trade him.

Woops forgot to add he actually thrives in the playoffs.

Hmm something doesnt add up.


It’s the deception, creation of false narratives, and denial, that’s what doesn’t add up. It’s like adding “solid defender” to the list above, a calculated move to make it seem like that’s what has been promoted, which it hasn’t. By including that obvious false invention tho it overshadows…and allows for dismissal and disregard of…the other parts, which appears to be the intent. If you believe, just tell the truth, if that’s something that can be done regarding the topic.

Dlo is an elite playmaker and 3pt shooter who struggles defensively and has performed poorly in some playoff games. The good may not…perhaps it does…outweigh the bad so maybe the Lakers should look for someone better, but it would look like a downgrade unless contributions are accounted for with new additions or existing personnel.The truth isn’t as hard to identify as it seems.


MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


Fair, there needs to be clarification regarding a solid defender. The point shouldn’t be missed tho because “thrives in the playoffs” was also part of the sarcasm, imo, used to dismiss the contributions. It’s ok to admit any player has issues when pointing out their contributions. Just the same, it’s ok to recognize the contributions when pointing out problems. It seems to me in an effort to “win arguments”, many respond as if a stance has to be taken to deny obvious truths.


I pretty much explained to them that I ranked solid beneath above average and was using it to say DLo played solid enough defense and was an improvement over last year, and that we only needed him to be solid in that context or above average(at best) and that he was the former.

Basically that he didn't play above average defense which would have been the best case scenario, but he played solid enough from what we needed from him and was better than last year.

I explained that to them several times over but they didn't seem to get it
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MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
What am I ignoring? Are you saying DLO is or isnt a solid defender?


I said that DLO just needed to be solid to above average, and he was solid.

Using reading comprehension if I said "solid to above average" which am I ranking higher?

Because you don't understand or are just playing ignorant. I'm saying he needed to be solid enough to above average and he was the former.

If you think solid = elite, that is your perspective. However because it's subjective I intentionally put solid below above average for a reason so you know where I was placing it. But you missed it every single time, as expected.


Im so confused. I literally wrote solid?


Yeah, but you don't seem to grasp where I considered solid. I considered solid beneath above average and more or less doing enough, and being an improvement over last season. Do you understand that at minimum?

I said solid to above average for that very reason and you missed it every single time.


What? Yes I know what solid means. You seem to think that I dont know what solid means for some reason. What a strange series of posts.


In the context I put it in, it means he didn't play above average defense but it was solid enough. Got it now? Thats why I ranked it beneath above average.

Again, it shouldn't be difficult to get.


Bro. Stop trying to gaslight me holy (bleep).

You literally said DLO is an elite playmaker, elite shooter, solid defender.

I literally quoted you saying that.

You then accuse me of embellishing your words?? And then went on a whole spiel about above average or elite =/= solid WHEN I NEVER TYPED THE WORDS ABOVE AVERAGE OR ELITE I JUST QUOTED YOU.
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Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
MJST wrote:
Ksig wrote:
What am I ignoring? Are you saying DLO is or isnt a solid defender?


I said that DLO just needed to be solid to above average, and he was solid.

Using reading comprehension if I said "solid to above average" which am I ranking higher?

Because you don't understand or are just playing ignorant. I'm saying he needed to be solid enough to above average and he was the former.

If you think solid = elite, that is your perspective. However because it's subjective I intentionally put solid below above average for a reason so you know where I was placing it. But you missed it every single time, as expected.


Im so confused. I literally wrote solid?


Yeah, but you don't seem to grasp where I considered solid. I considered solid beneath above average and more or less doing enough, and being an improvement over last season. Do you understand that at minimum?

I said solid to above average for that very reason and you missed it every single time.


What? Yes I know what solid means. You seem to think that I dont know what solid means for some reason. What a strange series of posts.


In the context I put it in, it means he didn't play above average defense but it was solid enough. Got it now? Thats why I ranked it beneath above average.

Again, it shouldn't be difficult to get.


Bro. Stop trying to gaslight me holy (bleep).

You literally said DLO is an elite playmaker, elite shooter, solid defender.

I literally quoted you saying that.

.


Again, look at the quote

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MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


Do yourself a favor and stop ignoring it. I then went on to explain that I ranked solid beneath above average because I was saying that was the range we needed from him. Solid would have been enough, above average would have been the best case scenario.

That means that solid the way I used it means basically good enough. I said to you several times but you keep missing that fact. Doesn't matter though, if you don't get it by now there's no point trying to explain it to you.

We needed him to be solid to above average, solid in this context meaning basically doing enough or around average. And he did that. If you don't get it, that's on you.

You can say solid to you means something different, but I put it beneath above average so you knew where I was ranking it. That's the gradient you don't seem to get.

Unlike you, Rafters said for me to basically reclarify how I meant it, and I did, and I'm sure they'll understand it on the first post, rather than needing me to re-explain it several times over.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:17 pm    Post subject:

What the (bleep)? Is anybody reading this crazy nonsense?

I genuinely have no idea what you're on about. You seem to think that I think solid = above average. You seem to think that I, a random stranger on the internet you know nothing about, thinks solid = above average. Then went on a schizo rant about how I need to understand solid =/= above average when all I did was quote you saying DLO was solid.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:21 pm    Post subject:

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What the (bleep)? Is anybody reading this crazy nonsense?

I genuinely have no idea what you're on about.


Then you didn't read what I've re-iterated to you several times over.

But okay, why don't you tell me what you think, I meant by solid.

Because if you don't think that me saying solid was me calling Dlo even an above average defender, than why do you have a problem with it?

Unless you think DLo was just horrible on defense(by the way, he wasn't) and that is why to you calling him anything around average or 'doing enough' is somehow a problem or embellishment.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:22 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
Ksig wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
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DLO is elite playmaker, elite shooter, solid defender. Yet no one wants to offer him a contract for a modest 19 million/y and the Lakers cant trade him.

Woops forgot to add he actually thrives in the playoffs.

Hmm something doesnt add up.


It’s the deception, creation of false narratives, and denial, that’s what doesn’t add up. It’s like adding “solid defender” to the list above, a calculated move to make it seem like that’s what has been promoted, which it hasn’t. By including that obvious false invention tho it overshadows…and allows for dismissal and disregard of…the other parts, which appears to be the intent. If you believe, just tell the truth, if that’s something that can be done regarding the topic.

Dlo is an elite playmaker and 3pt shooter who struggles defensively and has performed poorly in some playoff games. The good may not…perhaps it does…outweigh the bad so maybe the Lakers should look for someone better, but it would look like a downgrade unless contributions are accounted for with new additions or existing personnel.The truth isn’t as hard to identify as it seems.


MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


Fair, there needs to be clarification regarding a solid defender. The point shouldn’t be missed tho because “thrives in the playoffs” was also part of the sarcasm, imo, used to dismiss the contributions. It’s ok to admit any player has issues when pointing out their contributions. Just the same, it’s ok to recognize the contributions when pointing out problems. It seems to me in an effort to “win arguments”, many respond as if a stance has to be taken to deny obvious truths.


I pretty much explained to them that I ranked solid beneath above average and was using it to say DLo played solid enough defense and was an improvement over last year, and that we only needed him to be solid in that context or above average(at best) and that he was the former.

Basically that he didn't play above average defense which would have been the best case scenario, but he played solid enough from what we needed from him and was better than last year.

I explained that to them several times over but they didn't seem to get it


That looks pretty clarified to me lol! I get it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:23 pm    Post subject:

Hanging from Rafters wrote:
MJST wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
Ksig wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
Ksig wrote:
DLO is elite playmaker, elite shooter, solid defender. Yet no one wants to offer him a contract for a modest 19 million/y and the Lakers cant trade him.

Woops forgot to add he actually thrives in the playoffs.

Hmm something doesnt add up.


It’s the deception, creation of false narratives, and denial, that’s what doesn’t add up. It’s like adding “solid defender” to the list above, a calculated move to make it seem like that’s what has been promoted, which it hasn’t. By including that obvious false invention tho it overshadows…and allows for dismissal and disregard of…the other parts, which appears to be the intent. If you believe, just tell the truth, if that’s something that can be done regarding the topic.

Dlo is an elite playmaker and 3pt shooter who struggles defensively and has performed poorly in some playoff games. The good may not…perhaps it does…outweigh the bad so maybe the Lakers should look for someone better, but it would look like a downgrade unless contributions are accounted for with new additions or existing personnel.The truth isn’t as hard to identify as it seems.


MJST: "DLo doesn't need to be elite at defense, just solid to above average. And he was solid last season, far better than Reaves was and better than he was the previous season."

Just a few posts up my dude. Please, I dont make things up about DLO.


Fair, there needs to be clarification regarding a solid defender. The point shouldn’t be missed tho because “thrives in the playoffs” was also part of the sarcasm, imo, used to dismiss the contributions. It’s ok to admit any player has issues when pointing out their contributions. Just the same, it’s ok to recognize the contributions when pointing out problems. It seems to me in an effort to “win arguments”, many respond as if a stance has to be taken to deny obvious truths.


I pretty much explained to them that I ranked solid beneath above average and was using it to say DLo played solid enough defense and was an improvement over last year, and that we only needed him to be solid in that context or above average(at best) and that he was the former.

Basically that he didn't play above average defense which would have been the best case scenario, but he played solid enough from what we needed from him and was better than last year.

I explained that to them several times over but they didn't seem to get it


That looks pretty clarified to me lol! I get it.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:24 pm    Post subject:

Yes DLO is not solid on defense.

Holy (bleep) so this whole schizo rant was actually because you thought I think solid = above average??

Because when you describe someone as an elite shooter, elite playmaker, and AVERAGE (solid) on defense you get Steph Curry. Not D'Angelo Russell
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