The problem is the good defensive teams are usually the physical defensive teams - the same teams Reaves struggles against are the same types of defenses D'Lo struggles against.
Yea it's not really a scenario where the Lakers will regret trading D'lo. They may not win without him but they already knew they couldn't win with him.
You're aware the Lakers would have to surpass the WCF otherwise they don't win more than they did with him.
They made the WCF with Dlo as their starting point guard getting past Memphis and Golden State to do it. If that's your definition of "not winning with him", then by that logic they'll have to do better than that now.
Miami made the finals with Gabe Vincent starting. They haven't reached the second round since discarding him. Should Miami regret not retaining him? Is Gabe Vincent a starting level PG on a championship contender because of that flukeish run? Is he the difference between Miami winning the East and losing in the first round?
The problem is the good defensive teams are usually the physical defensive teams - the same teams Reaves struggles against are the same types of defenses D'Lo struggles against.
Yea it's not really a scenario where the Lakers will regret trading D'lo. They may not win without him but they already knew they couldn't win with him.
You're aware the Lakers would have to surpass the WCF otherwise they don't win more than they did with him.
They made the WCF with Dlo as their starting point guard getting past Memphis and Golden State to do it. If that's your definition of "not winning with him", then by that logic they'll have to do better than that now.
Miami made the finals with Gabe Vincent starting. They haven't reached the second round since discarding him. Should Miami regret .
Jimmy Butler was injured and didn't play at all during the Playoffs. Nice try though. Also 6th scoring option vs 3rd scoring option.
Either way, Butler was injured last year by the time the Playoffs rolled around.
Obviously if LeBron or AD was injured and out, you wouldn't judge how far the team is based on that. But that's not what we're counting on either.
Miami 'losing' equivalent in connection to role would be if they got rid of Tyler Herro. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
The problem is the good defensive teams are usually the physical defensive teams - the same teams Reaves struggles against are the same types of defenses D'Lo struggles against.
Yea it's not really a scenario where the Lakers will regret trading D'lo. They may not win without him but they already knew they couldn't win with him.
You're aware the Lakers would have to surpass the WCF otherwise they don't win more than they did with him.
They made the WCF with Dlo as their starting point guard getting past Memphis and Golden State to do it. If that's your definition of "not winning with him", then by that logic they'll have to do better than that now.
Miami made the finals with Gabe Vincent starting. They haven't reached the second round since discarding him. Should Miami regret .
Jimmy Butler was injured and didn't play at all during the Playoffs. Nice try though. Also 6th scoring option vs 3rd scoring option.
Either way, Butler was injured last year by the time the Playoffs rolled around.
Obviously if LeBron or AD was injured and out, you wouldn't judge how far the team is based on that. But that's not what we're counting on either.
Miami 'losing' equivalent in connection to role would be if they got rid of Tyler Herro.
LMAO. You always manufacture a make believe story to fit your narrative . At the end of the day, role players might help a team win a game or two in the playoff but the stars are the one that are carrying the team.
Dlo is good regular season player and he should get all the opportunities in Brooklyn. He usually thrive when the pressure is low .
They should moved this thread to a non Lakers scene. So you and his apologist can keep romanticizing on his empty stats . Lol
The problem is the good defensive teams are usually the physical defensive teams - the same teams Reaves struggles against are the same types of defenses D'Lo struggles against.
Yea it's not really a scenario where the Lakers will regret trading D'lo. They may not win without him but they already knew they couldn't win with him.
You're aware the Lakers would have to surpass the WCF otherwise they don't win more than they did with him.
They made the WCF with Dlo as their starting point guard getting past Memphis and Golden State to do it. If that's your definition of "not winning with him", then by that logic they'll have to do better than that now.
Miami made the finals with Gabe Vincent starting. They haven't reached the second round since discarding him. Should Miami regret .
Jimmy Butler was injured and didn't play at all during the Playoffs. Nice try though. Also 6th scoring option vs 3rd scoring option.
Either way, Butler was injured last year by the time the Playoffs rolled around.
Obviously if LeBron or AD was injured and out, you wouldn't judge how far the team is based on that. But that's not what we're counting on either.
Miami 'losing' equivalent in connection to role would be if they got rid of Tyler Herro.
LMAO. You always manufacture a make believe story to fit your nar
Nope, it was a horrible comparison that both made no sense, and also didn't even fit into a comparative. The Heat didn't have their best player. No one would make that comparison. Just as no one would hold the Lakers not going far in the Playoffs if LeBron or AD was out injured no matter who they traded.
Goals to go further than we went with him. As it should be the standard when you make trades you don't think are lateral.
Just as credit will be given for the move if the team manages to go further, no excuses should be given to a healthy roster if they don't. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
I would be very open to resigning him on a bargain deal this summer. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though."
I would be very open to resigning him on a bargain deal this summer.
I can't see him coming back for round 3. He's going to be in the MLE range IMO. He'll probably go somewhere to play with Booker or even maybe KAT. He's always wanted to play with them.
The problem is the good defensive teams are usually the physical defensive teams - the same teams Reaves struggles against are the same types of defenses D'Lo struggles against.
Yea it's not really a scenario where the Lakers will regret trading D'lo. They may not win without him but they already knew they couldn't win with him.
You're aware the Lakers would have to surpass the WCF otherwise they don't win more than they did with him.
They made the WCF with Dlo as their starting point guard getting past Memphis and Golden State to do it. If that's your definition of "not winning with him", then by that logic they'll have to do better than that now.
Miami made the finals with Gabe Vincent starting. They haven't reached the second round since discarding him. Should Miami regret .
Jimmy Butler was injured and didn't play at all during the Playoffs. Nice try though. Also 6th scoring option vs 3rd scoring option.
Either way, Butler was injured last year by the time the Playoffs rolled around.
Obviously if LeBron or AD was injured and out, you wouldn't judge how far the team is based on that. But that's not what we're counting on either.
Miami 'losing' equivalent in connection to role would be if they got rid of Tyler Herro.
The same Tyler Herro that played just 1 of 23 playoff games in 2023? Gabe Vincent was third in scoring for the Heat in the 2023 playoffs
Once again, the Heat lost Gabe Vincent and will likely never make the finals again in the Jimmy Butler era. According to your logic, that is because they let their third leading scorer and starting PG go.
In fact, Vincent's was more critical to the Heat's 2023 finals run. His performance in the 2023 playoffs > Dlo's performance in the 2023 playoffs.
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The problem is the good defensive teams are usually the physical defensive teams - the same teams Reaves struggles against are the same types of defenses D'Lo struggles against.
Yea it's not really a scenario where the Lakers will regret trading D'lo. They may not win without him but they already knew they couldn't win with him.
You're aware the Lakers would have to surpass the WCF otherwise they don't win more than they did with him.
They made the WCF with Dlo as their starting point guard getting past Memphis and Golden State to do it. If that's your definition of "not winning with him", then by that logic they'll have to do better than that now.
The Lakers made the WCF with Ham as coach, and he was fired. Why is DLO special.
The problem is the good defensive teams are usually the physical defensive teams - the same teams Reaves struggles against are the same types of defenses D'Lo struggles against.
Yea it's not really a scenario where the Lakers will regret trading D'lo. They may not win without him but they already knew they couldn't win with him.
You're aware the Lakers would have to surpass the WCF otherwise they don't win more than they did with him.
They made the WCF with Dlo as their starting point guard getting past Memphis and Golden State to do it. If that's your definition of "not winning with him", then by that logic they'll have to do better than that now.
The Lakers made the WCF with Ham as coach, and he was fired. .
And Ham was fired because the Lakers felt they could do better and go further without him, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten rid of him.
Our goal going into this year with JJ after we got rid of Ham was to do better than what we did under Ham, yes?
Whenever we make a move, that is to better our team our goal is to do better than we did under the last person that ran it.
Lakers fans aren't going to be happy if they got rid of Ham after they lost in the first round and then got JJ and then lost in the first round.
Just as they shouldn't be happy if we went to the first round and lost in the first round this year.
If the point is to get better than you need to surpass the ceiling of the previous unit or you're stuck in basketball purgatory.
So the crux of the point is, these moves are made to make us better, so let's see if we actually do better, and if we don't(and are healthy), no excuses.
And when it comes to scapegoats, it's always the singular players fault that they will spew all their venom towards, but if you say "Lets go further then we got with them then, now that he's gone" the goalposts move, and suddenly it becomes about "the team". That's because the majority of the people that scapegoat don't actually want the team to get better or make moves that makes them better, they just want the player they don't like for whatever reason not on the team and it's never about the team succeeding, just their personal feeling of vindication.
But at the end of the day, for actual Lakers fans, it should always be about the team getting better, regardless of personal feelings.
Lakers fans sat and cheered Karl Malone when he was a Laker because they cared about it leading us to a Championship despite all the things he said about Magic and despite the POS he is, so they can get over whatever other hangups they have for the betterment of the team and not their personal vendettas. If they can't, then they can stop calling themselves Lakers fans.
So, end of the day, this move was made to make the team better, in the FOs eyes, and now we'll see if it actually did. If it does and we go further, it's cause for celebration. If it doesn't, for several of the reasons/red flags that were pointed out prior on where the true problems were, "I told you so" isn't going to cut it anyway.
Ya move this to the general discussion mods plz. No point in arguing further.
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:15 am Post subject:
I’d say we made WCF despite DLO, not because of him. His playoff stats were absolutely atrocious. That was the big problem. If he had stepped up or even played to par in the playoffs, he’d likely still be here. _________________ "He may say it's not you, it's him.... but it's really you."
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:53 am Post subject:
Bittersweet as a big DLO fan, he re energized the team, and I may be biased he shot the 3 ball, and when he shot well his confidence would radiate through the team.
I'm sure the move back to Brooklyn will be good for him in a contract year.
For the Lakers, I think it is a good trade, but we still need a backup true point guard, and center. We will see how the roster shakes out from here. _________________ The most important shot in basketball.
Thanks to DLO for helping the Lakers gonfrom 13th seed to WCF. Wish him well in Brooklyn and any other future endeavors in the NBA and life, Fellow Laker Friends.
I’d say we made WCF despite DLO, not because of him. His playoff stats were absolutely atrocious. That was the big problem. If he had stepped up or even played to par in the playoffs, he’d likely still be here.
yeah if you ignore the go head bucket from DLO in Game 1 vs the Warriors or closing out the Grizz in the 1st Rnd or even the 9 straight points to bring back the Lakers vs the Grizz in the first rnd.
DLO was a HUGE reason the Lakers went from 13th seed to WCF, friend.
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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:52 am Post subject:
Dlo's play will say a lot about him. Will he sulk or come out guns blazing? How much energy will he exhibit? The Nets are 12-20. Good luck Dlo... _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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