He’s going to be in a million trade rumors from now till the deadline. I get it. I would just warn against being eager to part ways with him, particularly if we aren’t getting a playmaker in return. He is a real leader on this team in addition to being their 3rd best scorer and 2nd best playmaker (and on most nights our best 3 point shooter.). _________________ 14-5-3-12
He’s going to be in a million trade rumors from now till the deadline. I get it. I would just warn against being eager to part ways with him, particularly if we aren’t getting a playmaker in return. He is a real leader on this team in addition to being their 3rd best scorer and 2nd best playmaker (and on most nights our best 3 point shooter.).
This is all true. And he seems to be happy here. But we have other potentially more pressing needs, and he will likely be a free agent come June. _________________ Los Angeles Lakers Leadership: Jeanie Buss, Robert Pelinka, Kurt Rambis, LeBron James, Rich Paul.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:02 am Post subject:
ocho wrote:
tox wrote:
20 pts on 89% TS%
8 assists 0 turnovers
...and 0 chatter on LG
Should have taken Okafor, man.
He’s going to be in a million trade rumors from now till the deadline. I get it. I would just warn against being eager to part ways with him, particularly if we aren’t getting a playmaker in return. He is a real leader on this team in addition to being their 3rd best scorer and 2nd best playmaker (and on most nights our best 3 point shooter.).
Those mentioning him in trade scenarios are going to be truly sorry if DLO does indeed go and - like you said - don't get a legit playmaker in return. His playmaking has been invaluable. And...as mentioned - a great leader. Guys obviously love playing with him. All at a bargain price. Consistency will always be the question mark but I think we're getting a locked DLO rn who's playing for his next big contract. I'd be inclined to keep that. _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
Yep, fantastic game. Won't get 4 pages of talking sadly. That's why people go "Nobody hates Lakers players more than their own fans." _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
agreed with sentiments above. but Dlo going off on a bad defensive team coming off double overtime back2back game is not really surprising. That underhanded quick lop pass to Hayes after he freezied his defender and an opposing big was something else though.
plus more than anything, I really appreciate his consistent defensive effort even on a game like this.
I see people eagerly trading away DLO/Gabe for non-playmaker in ESPN trade machines.
That would be a mistake. AR/LBJ are not enough as the only 2 players who can be in a playmaking position, and you do not want a 38-39 year old LBJ having to carry the load like he did in 2019-20 (why do you think the Lakers have been searching for a PG through Dennis-Russ-DLO)? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
I really hate that man, Dlo gets half the credit for twice the work, and twice the blame for half the mistakes. I just came from another thread where a poster said AR could replace Dlo and that “playmaking is not a need for this team.” Can you imagine that belief? I know opinions are different and want to respect everyone’s perspective but geesh! Isn’t playmaking a need for every team? Perhaps not, I guess some don’t think so.
I wish Dlo really was appreciated more by the fans for what he is doing for the team. _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
Great game. Really hope we can play him and AR together again once Vando / Gabe get back. I still believe in that back court being the future. I don’t listen to the media and Laker fan masses. Most of those cats just want to chase big names and collect them like they are trading cards or some other type of collectible. We have a squad right now. Love this team. 9-6 while missing 2 of your top 8 rotation players, not to mention 2 of your top 3 defenders? Well 2 of your top 4 now with Cam I suppose! No doubt having those two guys leads to at least 2 more wins in my mind.
Another thought about folks not liking his offensive consistency. While I agree that his range of productivity is wide, wish it wasn’t, it’s very very normal for guards that are in the second or third tier. Averaging 18 points for those types of players doesn’t mean they literally score 18 points or so each game. It doesn’t even mean they score 15-22 points in each game. Averages don’t work like that. In the case of Dlo, it means one night of shooting insanely efficiently like 7-9 and in other games it means going 1-9. That averages out to like 44% which Dlo is actually better than the last couple seasons.
I urge you folks to look up the day to day stats of some of the high end, but not tier 1, level guards.
Why do ppl hate this guy so much? I truly dont get it. he is a godsend when comparing how we looked with the other russell in charge the past 2 years. DLO just alwyas makes the right plays. Hope he remains a laker for a long time _________________ He's my GOAT
Dlo gets half the credit for twice the work, and twice the blame for half the mistakes. I just came from another thread where a poster said AR could replace Dlo and that “playmaking is not a need for this team.” Can you imagine that belief?
I wish Dlo really was appreciated more by the fans for what he is doing for the team.
Also Lakers fans making this an AR vs Dlo debate ever since our beloved AR got benched makes no sense.
This season in 15 games Dlo is averaging and ranked:
Dlo putting up good numbers and good efficiency. He’s only 1 of 6 players with a positive rating too, so what he’s doing is leading to good things and wins.
Most of these shooting stats he’s only behind LeBron and Rui, he’s actually a more efficient scorer than AD at this point. If this was honestly AR’s numbers, these fans would be going goo-gaga and proclaiming to the world Lakers have a Big 3 and he’s our 3rd star. But since it’s just Dlo’s numbers, nothing just crickets.
But imagine if Dlo is averaging AR’s current numbers right now, this thread would be a dumpster fire of negativity. Double standards. _________________
Sounds like you're the one making it a DLO vs AR debate bro
DLO is playing well. AR has also been playing well recently. No need to pit them against each other.
He’s been very valuable as a playmaker behind LeBron so I woulnt be so quick to trade Dlo, unless it somehow brought back another playmaker who can also shoot and handle the bal.
I see people eagerly trading away DLO/Gabe for non-playmaker in ESPN trade machines.
That would be a mistake. AR/LBJ are not enough as the only 2 players who can be in a playmaking position, and you do not want a 38-39 year old LBJ having to carry the load like he did in 2019-20 (why do you think the Lakers have been searching for a PG through Dennis-Russ-DLO)?
Agreed.
As much as I'm loving this version of Dlo, that makes him a good trade asset for an upgrade which must happen for lakers to have any realistic chance of winning a chip. But any trade that involves Dlo must be for a ball handler or FO needs to get a solid enough pg in separate deal before shipping dlo out.
I was really sad when Malcolm Brogdon whom I think is an ideal fit for this team got hurt before we could make a move for him. Depends on the seriousness of his injury, I don't mind still going for him without offering Dlo. To match his salary is the tricky part though.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:05 pm Post subject:
So happy for DLO.
I just like stories where a person grinds through adversity to achieve their goals. Plus it is a + for our franchise. His success is the franchise's success. No matter how you look at it. He is improving our chances of grabbing another ring.
Best part of it. We are winning. So nobody can argue it is selfish ball or stat padding.
TBH, I don't find his style of play aesthetically pleasing. But you can't deny the results. Keep it up young buck! I'm rooting for ya! _________________ When the world grows. Grow with it.
Why Ham played Christie more mins in that 3rd quarter when Dlo was highly efficient is bewildering. Lakers were at least keeping pace (down 16 at halftime, down 14 before Dlo was subbed) after he was subbed out, Mavs increased their lead to 20. Would’ve been much easier making a comeback in the 4th down 14 vs down 20. _________________ Tacos
Why Ham played Christie more mins in that 3rd quarter when Dlo was highly efficient is bewildering. Lakers were at least keeping pace (down 16 at halftime, down 14 before Dlo was subbed) after he was subbed out, Mavs increased their lead to 20. Would’ve been much easier making a comeback in the 4th down 14 vs down 20.
The problem with both AD and Dlo is that they are super finesse players. Obviously AD is superior in every way and can rev it up but he prefers a finesse game not a power game. The same is somewhat true of AR. This is fine on its own but without Vando to somewhat make up some of that physicality and toughness we become too soft. Doubling down on Wood, who is another finesse player makes this even more challenging. Lakers need a bruiser. How or who is a different problem.
In this game though Dlo caught fire and should have stayed in until he cooled off at least. That’s on Ham.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:53 pm Post subject:
Pistons suck but DLO killed em tonight. Nice to have a guy with some takeover ability, just want to see it against better teams. 35 points, 9 assists, 3 blocks, 4 boards. Balling from the start. Way to go DLO
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:55 pm Post subject:
What’s a sophisticated explanation for why DLO’s entire career didn’t look like the way he played tonight? He has such a smooth, skilled game. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
What’s a sophisticated explanation for why DLO’s entire career didn’t look like the way he played tonight? He has such a smooth, skilled game.
He's not physical or aggressive enough is all I could come up with when thinking about this recently, and part of it is that he's missing that extra tick of speed/athleticism that would really take his game to the next level. His skillset is honestly elite, as in this is exactly what you want from a lead guard in today's NBA. But 1) he both isn't built and naturally just doesn't prefer to make scoring at the rim and drawing contact for easier, more consistent points a regular part of his game - he's all finesse, and 2) he only has this aggressive drive to score once every few games. The lack of physicality and passive mentality also carry over to defense.
It all adds up to a guy who is super dependent on his jumpshot being on and can be taken out of games when facing defenders who can beat him up and make him more tentative on offense. And it's exactly why the playoffs are a challenge for him.
I actually think D'Lo's problem is mental more than physical. You can overcome physical limitations if you play with enough force and will and it can show up in a multitude of ways through just sheer energy and making hustle plays (Reaves last year) or playing the right way and staying ready to make key shots (Fisher). The jump shooting can come and go but playing with consistent energy and force can make you a net positive even if you dont have your shot going. Fisher was probably the least athletic point guard in the league our last 2 title winning years and yet he never felt like a liability in the playoffs and really more an asset at times because of the mental side of who he is.
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