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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Finally. Thank you. They should all be demanding this.
Quote: | Rep. Eric Swalwell @RepSwalwell
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DHS Secretary Kristi Noem must resign. She has deported a four year old with cancer, detained a U.S. marshal, and arrested two members of Congress. She’s lost the confidence of the American people. ICE must stop terrorizing our communities. |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Senator Ben Ray Luján @SenatorLujan (New Mexico)
Secretary Noem should resign.
What happened to Senator Padilla was a disgrace – and it didn’t happen by accident. It happened under her watch, with her agents, and now the Trump administration is lying to cover it up.
This administration claims it’s targeting violent criminals. But in reality, they’re going after political opponents, tearing families apart, and going after workers. If this is how they treat a U.S. Senator – and a citizen – imagine how they’ll treat you. |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Republican Senators: ::crickets::
Republican House Members: Censure Padilla!
The GOP is the worst combination of lying, fascist, hypocritical cowards. _________________ Don't blame me. I voted for Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Rep. Pramila Jayapal @RepJayapal
Resign now, Kristi Noem. |
(I understand she won't really resign, but Democrats have to crank it up to 11 nevertheless. You know Republicans would be demanding immediate resignation at a minimum.) _________________ Don't blame me. I voted for Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Now we're understanding the assignment.
Quote: | Adam Schiff @SenAdamSchiff
@Sec_Noem should resign. |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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In my college speech giving and persuasive argument class, we were taught that in the last act you advocate for an action. You make the argument for or against something, then you ask the audience/listener to take an action. That's why it's important for Democrats to not simply say what Noem and her goons did was wrong, they must follow up by advocating for an action -- thus, "She must resign." Otherwise you are arguing for nothing to change. You have to close the deal on the argument. _________________ Don't blame me. I voted for Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Senator Cortez Masto @SenCortezMasto (Nevada)
Secretary Noem, you should resign. You’re head of Homeland Security and you can’t take a question from a sitting U.S. Senator at a press conference?
This level of abuse of power is shameful, outrageous, and is not doing anything to keep our homeland safe. |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta @malcolmkenyatta
It’s time for Sec. Noem to go! |
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Trump realizing that rounding up all the brown people is going to cripple the economy? The farm owners getting in his ear that nobody is going to pick the fruits and vegetables or work in the meat packing plants if all the Hispanics are deported? |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | Trump realizing that rounding up all the brown people is going to cripple the economy? The farm owners getting in his ear that nobody is going to pick the fruits and vegetables or work in the meat packing plants if all the Hispanics are deported? |
If Trump really wants to stop deporting the "good" immigrants then he needs to tell Stephen Miller who is behind all this and is the acting president on domestic issues. I won't believe they changed their policy until they actually stop rounding up innocent people. Miller is the one that demanded huge, unrealistic daily arrest quotas from Homeland Security and ICE. _________________ Don't blame me. I voted for Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. |
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Omar Little Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Trump realizing that rounding up all the brown people is going to cripple the economy? The farm owners getting in his ear that nobody is going to pick the fruits and vegetables or work in the meat packing plants if all the Hispanics are deported? |
If Trump really wants to stop deporting the "good" immigrants then he needs to tell Stephen Miller who is behind all this and is the acting president on domestic issues. I won't believe they changed their policy until they actually stop rounding up innocent people. Miller is the one that demanded huge, unrealistic daily arrest quotas from Homeland Security and ICE. |
And Trump is an unreliable narrator. The goal of going after (mostly blue state) immigrant workers, along with red meat for the base, is to hurt the blue states, and even the red states, to consolidate power and reduce the resistance. _________________ Hoy por ellos, mañana por nosotros
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | Trump realizing that rounding up all the brown people is going to cripple the economy? The farm owners getting in his ear that nobody is going to pick the fruits and vegetables or work in the meat packing plants if all the Hispanics are deported? |
Absolutely frightening to imagine what the end goal is
They know with 110% certainty they're crippling the agricultural industry
Is it only in Blue States they're doing this
Are they going after agriculture and meat and dairy in Republican run states
This is (bleep) treason against the people
This nation was not built to allow this kind of behavior _________________ ...only one who has tamed himself can get there.” |
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Omar Little Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | Now we're understanding the assignment.
Quote: | Adam Schiff @SenAdamSchiff
@Sec_Noem should resign. |
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Provocation works both ways. Trump has been trying to get the right visuals to justify martial law. Padilla just gave the Dems a visual to galvanize people. People need to understand that privilege won’t save them. A us senator got manhandled on TV. Like it or not, our leaders must be willing to be examples of some bad treatment, and that likely means worse than Padilla got. This is the blueprint. They control all the levees except too many of us to shoot. But we have to be prepared for them to test how many is too many. I will see you all out there on Saturday. If they shoot me, one of you take my spot. _________________ Hoy por ellos, mañana por nosotros
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Now we're understanding the assignment.
Quote: | Adam Schiff @SenAdamSchiff
@Sec_Noem should resign. |
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Provocation works both ways. Trump has been trying to get the right visuals to justify martial law. Padilla just gave the Dems a visual to galvanize people. People need to understand that privilege won’t save them. A us senator got manhandled on TV. Like it or not, our leaders must be willing to be examples of some bad treatment, and that likely means worse than Padilla got. This is the blueprint. They control all the levees except too many of us to shoot. But we have to be prepared for them to test how many is too many. I will see you all out there on Saturday. If they shoot me, one of you take my spot. |
Hold the line and stay safe! _________________ Don't blame me. I voted for Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | SAN FRANCISCO — A federal judge cast doubts Thursday on the legality of President Donald Trump’s deployment of the National Guard in Los Angeles, warning that the Trump administration’s contention that the president’s position cannot be second-guessed — even by the courts — evoked the founders’ fear of a monarchy.
“That’s not where we live. We live in response to a monarch. This country was founded in response to a monarch,” U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer said during an emergency court hearing on a lawsuit filed by California Gov. Gavin Newsom. “The Constitution is a document of limitations.”
Breyer suggested Trump’s call-up of 4,000 members of California’s National Guard to the streets of Los Angeles — over Newsom’s fierce objection — may have been legally deficient. |
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/12/national-guard-california-lawsuit-court-hearing-00403910 _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Bibi starting a war with Iran. I thought Trump said when he's president he can prevent all wars from even starting?
Quote: | Avi Mayer אבי מאיר @AviMayer
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🔴 BREAKING: Israel has launched a preemptive strike in Iran.
Israeli Defense Minister Katz has declared a “special situation” for the home front throughout the State of Israel due to high likelihood of a missile and drone attack by Iran. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Don't (bleep) with California.
Quote: | BREAKING: A federal judge issued a sweeping order blocking President Donald Trump’s unprecedented seizure of California’s National Guard, calling the move illegal and a “dangerous precedent. |
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/judge-blocks-trumps-seizure-of-california-national-guard/ _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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ChefLinda Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Per MSNBC, Trump asked Bibi not to strike Iran right now -- his administration was in the middle of trying to get the Iran deal they cancelled under Trump 1.0. Bibi ignored Trump and started bombing anyway -- also putting an end to Trump's negotiations with Iran.
So Putin ignored Trump. Bibi ignored Trump. But he was supposed to be the tough guy that they all would listen to. The great "deal maker." He's a total fraud in everything he does.
Quote: | Chris Murphy 🟧 @ChrisMurphyCT
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Israel's attack on Iran, clearly intended to scuttle the Trump Administration's negotiations with Iran, risks a regional war that will likely be catastrophic for America and is further evidence of how little respect world powers - including our own allies - have for President Trump. Iran would not be this close to possessing a nuclear weapon if Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu had not forced America out of the nuclear agreement with Iran that had brought Europe, Russia, and China together behind the United States to successfully contain Iran’s nuclear ambitions. This is a disaster of Trump and Netanyahu's own making, and now the region risks spiraling toward a new, deadly conflict. A war between Israel and Iran may be good forNetanyahu’s domestic politics, but it will likely be disastrous for both the security of Israel, the United States, and the rest of the region. As Secretary Rubio stated, the United States was not involved in today's strikes, and we have no obligation to follow Israel into a war we did not ask for and will make us less safe. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Protests are going on outside Angel Stadium right now, and I can hear car horns from my place just a few hundred yards away. And there are helicopters circling as well.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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To my knowledge, the National Guard hasn't had any encounters with the protestors. Their presence is more of an aggravation. Looters should be punished to the max. They're playing into Trump's hands. The order has been stayed until noon tomorrow. Will Trump abide by the ruling?
Updated 40 mins ago -
Politics & PolicyJudge orders Trump to return National Guard to California's control
Avery Lotz
LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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Omar Little Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Not going to be a popular view, but the strike on Iran is probably the first righteous and rational act Israel has done in more than a year. IAEA projects Iran was from days to a few months from sufficient fuel for a nuke, and because Trump screwed the first deal and was incompetently prosecuting a do over, any Israeli commander would likely do this. They had rendered Hezbollah and the Iranian air defenses vulnerable, and had a limited time before that was not the case.
This has no bearing on the evil Israelis doing in Gaza and the West Bank. It does have bearing on why Biden wouldn’t cut Israel off. The key fault line in the Middle East is not Israel vs the Muslim world anymore. That’s a local issue that is mostly a proxy war for the real combatants, Saudi Arabia and Iran. Russia, China, Europe, and the USA make all their decisions, even regarding Israel, via the Saudi Iran conflict, and the us has in fact simultaneously allied with Iran against Saudi Arabia in Iraq while doing the opposite in Yemen. And even bibi and Iran have an arrangement of sorts where neither is going to allow the saudis to gain the upper hand.
The geopolitics of that area are (bleep), mostly because of colonial and post colonial decisions regarding oil, and the only actors worthy of empathy are the multitude of civilians killed by their own or warring factions. Like the US, Israel has been a colonial power for a while, and the east west axis of conflict has always balanced the scales to ensure no victors. _________________ Hoy por ellos, mañana por nosotros
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | A federal appeals court has restored President Donald Trump’s ability to deploy the National Guard to Los Angeles, blocking for at least a few days a judge’s order that found the call-up illegal and unconstitutional.
A three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals blocked U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer’s order just hours after he issued it, amid an urgent push from the Trump administration to vindicate Trump’s power as commander in chief.
The three-judge panel included Trump appointees Mark Bennett and Eric Miller, as well as Biden appointee Jennifer Sung. They set a Tuesday hearing on the matter, ensuring Trump’s deployment will remain in place at least into next week. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | Not going to be a popular view, but the strike on Iran is probably the first righteous and rational act Israel has done in more than a year. IAEA projects Iran was from days to a few months from sufficient fuel for a nuke, and because Trump screwed the first deal and was incompetently prosecuting a do over, any Israeli commander would likely do this. They had rendered Hezbollah and the Iranian air defenses vulnerable, and had a limited time before that was not the case.
This has no bearing on the evil Israelis doing in Gaza and the West Bank. It does have bearing on why Biden wouldn’t cut Israel off. The key fault line in the Middle East is not Israel vs the Muslim world anymore. That’s a local issue that is mostly a proxy war for the real combatants, Saudi Arabia and Iran. Russia, China, Europe, and the USA make all their decisions, even regarding Israel, via the Saudi Iran conflict, and the us has in fact simultaneously allied with Iran against Saudi Arabia in Iraq while doing the opposite in Yemen. And even bibi and Iran have an arrangement of sorts where neither is going to allow the saudis to gain the upper hand.
The geopolitics of that area are (bleep), mostly because of colonial and post colonial decisions regarding oil, and the only actors worthy of empathy are the multitude of civilians killed by their own or warring factions. Like the US, Israel has been a colonial power for a while, and the east west axis of conflict has always balanced the scales to ensure no victors. |
You are right in that you are wrong. An absolutely reckless thing to do regardless of who is right and wrong and history notwithstanding. It puts everyone at risk and conflagaration is not the answer. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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We, as a country, enabled Israel's genocidal campaign. Now they are starting a war with Iran.
Dems moved right on immigration. And the Republican party went further right into fascism.
Democratic leadership is still focusing their outrage on process, procedure, and responsibility. They are trying to play the political game that existed pre-Trump.
The people already know though, the game is over. Trump and Republicans flipped over the board a long time ago. And now they are punching us in the face over and over again. While our leadership says, "that's not in the rules!"
Only way out of this is bottom-up. There are no legal or procedural routes to taking back our country. It's gonna come down to social power. Activate the left with the same intensity our opposition does on the right. That same social power is how Trump went from "he'll be in jail eventually" after January 6th, to Trump running our country 4 years later. _________________ When the world grows. Grow with it.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Donald Trump implied that Vladimir Putin, as the leader of Russia, fought in World War II.
Quote: | "I talked to Putin. He lost 51 million people (in WWII) and he did fight… He fought with us in World War II and everybody hates him.”
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https://x.com/EdKrassen/status/1933205915399794974
But Biden is the one who has dementia and is unfit to be our president. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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