(Watch Sen. Graham push back on DeSantis' Ukraine comments)
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Members of the Republican party, including Sens. Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham, are pushing back on Florida's Gov. Ron DeSantis after he said Russia's war in Ukraine is a "territorial dispute" and not of "vital national interest."
(See Tucker Carlson's ‘hackery’ exposed over decades)
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Dominion’s billion-dollar defamation suit against Fox News is exposing a wider crisis in conservative media, where some of the most damning evidence comes from Fox’s primetime hosts. In this Special Report, MSNBC’s Ari Melber reports on the hypocrisy of Fox host Tucker Carlson’s career, and shows you the contrast between what Carlson says publicly, and what he actually believes. (This is an excerpt of the full discussion that aired on MSNBC).
(Sen. Menendez: Mexican Pres. either "deceiving himself" or "trying to deceive the Mexican people")
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Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chair Bob Menendez reacts to claims by Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador that Mexico doesn’t manufacture fentanyl. “Either he’s deceiving himself or he’s trying to deceive the Mexican people," he tells José Díaz-Balart.
I want DeSantis to win. So Trump will claim its rigged and thus split the R party.
Starting to see the dividing lines in the polls. Desantis preferred by college educated Rs. Trump preferred by non-college educated Rs.
But we all know what will happen, Trump will win the nomination. Which might be a good thing. Last time I rooted for 1 Republican over the other. It was 2015, and I thought Trump winning the nomination would kill any chance of the Rs winning the General Election. _________________ "I knew I was fly when I was just a caterpillar."
(Texas birth control ruling could 'set a precedent' for other drugs, legal expert says )
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Katy Tur spoke with Mary Ziegler, University of California Davis Law Professor and abortion law expert, about the Texas case that may limit access to the abortion drug mifepristone.
I loathe DeSantis and stand by him being an overrated general candidate but against Biden specifically I think his youth is a big advantage. I also don't think he's a threat to democracy the way Trump is. So I'm kind of torn which candidate to hope wins in a primary. Kikanga's scenario is ideal but I don't think things will be so simple
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:59 pm Post subject:
tox wrote:
I loathe DeSantis and stand by him being an overrated general candidate but against Biden specifically I think his youth is a big advantage. I also don't think he's a threat to democracy the way Trump is. So I'm kind of torn which candidate to hope wins in a primary. Kikanga's scenario is ideal but I don't think things will be so simple
DeSantis is as much of a threat, if not a bigger one, as Trump is. Trump might have attempted to derail Democracy, but DeSantis will be hell bent on destroying a great number of the freedoms we have in this country, as well as Democracy, as is evidence by the things he has done in Florida, like proposing to ban the Democratic Party. Don't let the fact that DeSantis isn't as outspoken about stolen elections and inspiring insurrection fool you. DeSantis wants a fascist state as much as Trump. He's just going about it differently and in a more widespread fashion. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:14 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
tox wrote:
I loathe DeSantis and stand by him being an overrated general candidate but against Biden specifically I think his youth is a big advantage. I also don't think he's a threat to democracy the way Trump is. So I'm kind of torn which candidate to hope wins in a primary. Kikanga's scenario is ideal but I don't think things will be so simple
DeSantis is as much of a threat, if not a bigger one, as Trump is. Trump might have attempted to derail Democracy, but DeSantis will be hell bent on destroying a great number of the freedoms we have in this country, as well as Democracy, as is evidence by the things he has done in Florida, like proposing to ban the Democratic Party. Don't let the fact that DeSantis isn't as outspoken about stolen elections and inspiring insurrection fool you. DeSantis wants a fascist state as much as Trump. He's just going about it differently and in a more widespread fashion.
Yep. Trump is an actual idiot, whereas DeSantis is extremely smart and well-educated (Yale, and then Harvard law), has a military background, and knows exactly what he's doing. He's a huge threat if he wins the nomination.
I loathe DeSantis and stand by him being an overrated general candidate but against Biden specifically I think his youth is a big advantage. I also don't think he's a threat to democracy the way Trump is. So I'm kind of torn which candidate to hope wins in a primary. Kikanga's scenario is ideal but I don't think things will be so simple
DeSantis is as much of a threat, if not a bigger one, as Trump is. Trump might have attempted to derail Democracy, but DeSantis will be hell bent on destroying a great number of the freedoms we have in this country, as well as Democracy, as is evidence by the things he has done in Florida, like proposing to ban the Democratic Party. Don't let the fact that DeSantis isn't as outspoken about stolen elections and inspiring insurrection fool you. DeSantis wants a fascist state as much as Trump. He's just going about it differently and in a more widespread fashion.
I'm not sure I agree. Well let me rephrase that, I almost entirely agree with what you said but I don't think Desantis does want to destroy democracy like Trump. The banning the Democratic Party thing is just a dumb publicity stunt and afaict wasn't even proposed by Desantis.
Like don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the guy. He's vile. He made his name by essentially letting his citizens die to the virus for political gain. But I think he wants to do his fascism within the norms of American democracy and I don't think that's true for Trump.
I am very open to the argument that Trump is an incompetent buffoon and RDS will way more damage if elected, though.
Don't be fooled by any conservative who tries to tell you that DeSantis is a more moderate version of Trump. DeSantis, far from being moderate, is trying to appeal to the same culture-war focused MAGA base that Trump currently controls. To win the hearts and minds of MAGA, to get them to move away from Trump, DeSantis will have to be an even more extreme version of Trump. And therein lies the danger of a DeSantis nomination: in order for him to be successful, he has to be extreme.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:27 pm Post subject:
tox wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
tox wrote:
I loathe DeSantis and stand by him being an overrated general candidate but against Biden specifically I think his youth is a big advantage. I also don't think he's a threat to democracy the way Trump is. So I'm kind of torn which candidate to hope wins in a primary. Kikanga's scenario is ideal but I don't think things will be so simple
DeSantis is as much of a threat, if not a bigger one, as Trump is. Trump might have attempted to derail Democracy, but DeSantis will be hell bent on destroying a great number of the freedoms we have in this country, as well as Democracy, as is evidence by the things he has done in Florida, like proposing to ban the Democratic Party. Don't let the fact that DeSantis isn't as outspoken about stolen elections and inspiring insurrection fool you. DeSantis wants a fascist state as much as Trump. He's just going about it differently and in a more widespread fashion.
I'm not sure I agree. Well let me rephrase that, I almost entirely agree with what you said but I don't think Desantis does want to destroy democracy like Trump. The banning the Democratic Party thing is just a dumb publicity stunt and afaict wasn't even proposed by Desantis.
Like don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the guy. He's vile. He made his name by essentially letting his citizens die to the virus for political gain. But I think he wants to do his fascism within the norms of American democracy and I don't think that's true for Trump.
I am very open to the argument that Trump is an incompetent buffoon and RDS will way more damage if elected, though.
Trying to choose between the 2 is like trying to choose between eating throw up or poop.
DeSantis, no doubt, would be more efficient at pushing through Republican policy.
But Trump has that "eff it" factor. Breaking the law is his #1 method of choice. And, to this day, he hasn't been held accountable. He believes he is above the law. And he's been proven right (at least when it comes to criminal matters). _________________ "I knew I was fly when I was just a caterpillar."
(Why conservatives don't want to say what 'woke' means)
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Alex Wagner points out that what "woke" actually means sound right and sensible, which may be why conservatives and "anti-woke" Republicans avoid being specific about exactly what it is that's so against.
GOP wingnuts probably define woke to be anything that gives awareness and agency to non-whites and other historically oppressed people. _________________ Garvey, Lopes, Cey, Russell
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:14 am Post subject:
What's become of Kamala? She's a ghost at this point. Given the toll the presidency takes on an individual, never mind what it would do to people past 80, I would have liked to see her take a more active role. What gives? _________________ You are under no obligation to remain the same person you were a year ago, a month ago, or even a day ago. You are here to create yourself, continuously. - Richard Feynman
What's become of Kamala? She's a ghost at this point. Given the toll the presidency takes on an individual, never mind what it would do to people past 80, I would have liked to see her take a more active role. What gives?
Imo, when a president/Vice president is doing their job, we don't see or hear from them much, as they are...You know...DOING THEIR JOBS!
I frankly find that the press releases showing either one "doing something" is for dumb people who truly don't understand the concept of out of sight= Busy...
This is what Drumpf supporters never understood about 60% of the country hating him...We didn't fall for the goofy press releases like cosplay dump truck driving. _________________ Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:27 pm Post subject:
Heartburn wrote:
What's become of Kamala? She's a ghost at this point. Given the toll the presidency takes on an individual, never mind what it would do to people past 80, I would have liked to see her take a more active role. What gives?
The VP really only has one job in government. It's pretty much up to the President if they do anything beyond that. I mean, back in the early days of the country the VP wasn't even from the same party. If Harris is invisible and not doing anything, it's because that's what Biden wants.
What's become of Kamala? She's a ghost at this point. Given the toll the presidency takes on an individual, never mind what it would do to people past 80, I would have liked to see her take a more active role. What gives?
that was the hope. She was hated from the start because she is a she and isn't lilly white, but also when joe announced he was picking a woman there was some backlash. Why announce? It was the first of his 2 announcements regarding appointments.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:22 pm Post subject:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
Heartburn wrote:
What's become of Kamala? She's a ghost at this point. Given the toll the presidency takes on an individual, never mind what it would do to people past 80, I would have liked to see her take a more active role. What gives?
The VP really only has one job in government. It's pretty much up to the President if they do anything beyond that. I mean, back in the early days of the country the VP wasn't even from the same party. If Harris is invisible and not doing anything, it's because that's what Biden wants.
Not to mention, the above has been said regarding just about every VP for decades . . . in fact, it was said about Biden during the Obama administration. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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And everything you built that’s all for show
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