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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:43 pm    Post subject:

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I have to admit here I am a little confused... perhaps CL or DMR can clarify these remarks to me...

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Pelosi: "Time is running short" for Biden to decide on re-election bid

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that "we're all encouraging" President Biden to make a final decision on whether he will continue his re-election bid.


https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/nancy-pelosi-biden-2024-run

I was under the impression that President Biden had already made this decision, and is staying in and running, but Pelosi is implying that he hasn't decided yet?!?

What is happening here, I feel like I'm being gaslit here..


He has, and he has been steadfastly adamant about it. He's never even hinted that he is still deciding, this is just Pelosi pushing an agenda (and a very dangerous one at that) that she and some other Dems won't let go of. And to be honest, they represent a bigger threat to enabling a Trump victory than Biden does. This is a time for unity, and I have lost a great deal of respect for Pelosi because she knows what's up, but she's simply pandering to a group of voters for her own agrandizement.
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More on George Clowney's . . . excuse me Clooney's Biden comments:

PRESIDENT BIDEN
CLOONEY MADE FUNDRAISER ALL ABOUT HIM
... Says Campaign Source


The gloves are off between George Clooney and President Biden -- folks involved with the campaign are firing back at Clooney over the Hollywood fundraiser the actor co-hosted ... saying he was anything but accommodating to POTUS.

As you know, Clooney fired the first shot with his NYT op-ed Wednesday, saying Biden can't win the election and called for him to drop out of the race.

. . .

Now ... a source connected to the Biden campaign, who is deeply familiar with the planning that went into the Hollywood fundraiser, is dismissing Clooney's critique and pointing the finger squarely at him.

We're told the event took months to plan, and during that process, Clooney left the Biden campaign with only one possible date it could be held ... June 15. The Biden campaign made it abundantly clear that date was not ideal, because Biden would be attending the G7 Summit in Italy on the 14th, but we're told Clooney wouldn't budge.

Of course, team Biden didn't want to miss out on the opportunity to have a fundraiser headlined by Clooney, so they agreed. As a result, Biden had to make a 13-hour flight from Italy to L.A. on the same day as the event.

. . .

As for Clooney's claim Biden wasn't the same person he was used to seeing ... we're told the President's grueling travel -- to meet Clooney's demand -- might have something to do with that.




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RIPS CLOONEY AND OTHERS AS COWARDS FOR TURNING ON BIDEN


D.L. Hughley is going scorched earth on George Clooney for calling on President Biden to drop out of the presidential race ... and he says Democrats are missing the big picture.

D.L. says the whole tone of George's NYT op-ed letter calling on Biden to step down is "insulting" ... and he finds it alarming Clooney never mentioned Project 2025, a series of proposals D.L. warns will do serious damage to Americans, especially minorities.

A defiant D.L. says it's ridiculous folks are making such a big deal about Biden's qualifications for president when Trump is now a convicted felon who owes a ton of money to a woman he was found to have raped.

D.L. says Biden's got an easier path to victory as an incumbent and even if he can't survive another 4 years, as George Stephanopoulos believes, Democrats have a capable replacement in Kamala Harris as VP.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:55 pm    Post subject:

There are a lot more polls in. I don't trust polls between Trump & non-Biden/Harris candidates because name recognition makes a big difference, but for the most part Biden is outpacing Harris. Might as well just stick by Biden since you're not getting your fever dream ticket of Gretmer/Buttigieg or whatever. Biden's path to winning is clear anyway (Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:58 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
Murdock wrote:
I have to admit here I am a little confused... perhaps CL or DMR can clarify these remarks to me...

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Pelosi: "Time is running short" for Biden to decide on re-election bid

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that "we're all encouraging" President Biden to make a final decision on whether he will continue his re-election bid.


https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/nancy-pelosi-biden-2024-run

I was under the impression that President Biden had already made this decision, and is staying in and running, but Pelosi is implying that he hasn't decided yet?!?

What is happening here, I feel like I'm being gaslit here..


He has, and he has been steadfastly adamant about it. He's never even hinted that he is still deciding, this is just Pelosi pushing an agenda (and a very dangerous one at that) that she and some other Dems won't let go of. And to be honest, they represent a bigger threat to enabling a Trump victory than Biden does. This is a time for unity, and I have lost a great deal of respect for Pelosi because she knows what's up, but she's simply pandering to a group of voters for her own agrandizement.


These comments from Pelosi made me do a double take, and made her sound like she was the one having some cognative issues or is doing some serious gaslighting..
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For what it's worth (maybe not much right now, given the news), the polls appear to have stopped moving against Biden. If it was Election Day, with R+2 nationally R+3 in PA, Biden would be a normal polling miss away from winning the Electoral College projects.


https://x.com/gelliottmorris/status/1811117927858348193?t=IUDKebPU60zzolCRYklWqw&s=19
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:03 pm    Post subject:

It's kind of the flip side of how Trump can do anything and barely see any slippage in the polls. Things are already so polarized and a lot of this stuff is already baked in. People already knew Biden was old. The kind of people freaking out are mostly the educated class who are probably gonna vote for Biden anyway, but they'd convinced themselves he wouldn't be so bad in the debate.

I think even most swing voters who are leaning Biden knew Biden is old as (bleep) and just despise Trump more. Obviously there are people who did change their minds as the polls have dropped, but it's not like he was ever gonna poll -8 against Trump. Too many people despise Trump.
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For what it's worth (maybe not much right now, given the news), the polls appear to have stopped moving against Biden. If it was Election Day, with R+2 nationally R+3 in PA, Biden would be a normal polling miss away from winning the Electoral College projects.


https://x.com/gelliottmorris/status/1811117927858348193?t=IUDKebPU60zzolCRYklWqw&s=19

against a convicted felon, racist who loathes america.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:31 pm    Post subject:

Murdock wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Murdock wrote:
I have to admit here I am a little confused... perhaps CL or DMR can clarify these remarks to me...

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Pelosi: "Time is running short" for Biden to decide on re-election bid

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that "we're all encouraging" President Biden to make a final decision on whether he will continue his re-election bid.


https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/nancy-pelosi-biden-2024-run

I was under the impression that President Biden had already made this decision, and is staying in and running, but Pelosi is implying that he hasn't decided yet?!?

What is happening here, I feel like I'm being gaslit here..


He has, and he has been steadfastly adamant about it. He's never even hinted that he is still deciding, this is just Pelosi pushing an agenda (and a very dangerous one at that) that she and some other Dems won't let go of. And to be honest, they represent a bigger threat to enabling a Trump victory than Biden does. This is a time for unity, and I have lost a great deal of respect for Pelosi because she knows what's up, but she's simply pandering to a group of voters for her own agrandizement.


These comments from Pelosi made me do a double take, and made her sound like she was the one having some cognative issues or is doing some serious gaslighting..


They misquoted her and left out the full context of her remarks. She went on Morning Joe and slammed the media for trying to spin her words into something they weren't.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:36 pm    Post subject:

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Even if that is true, that's not a "historic landslide." So I clicked on the article and I see it's Gabriel Sherman, and I'm not surprised. The same sources he's using called the 2016 election a landslide. It's stupid hyperbole by a glorified tabloid journalist.


And it's not like Trump's side WOULD LIE ABOUT AN ELECTION OR ANYTHING. I wouldn't believe the Trump side was telling the truth even if they told me the sky was blue.

Trump is still telling the BIG LIE that Biden stole the 2020 election and that Trump won in a landslide.

I can't believe people still get taken in by these hucksters and their media mouthpieces.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:52 pm    Post subject:

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It’s time to stop the Joe Biden doom loop.

President @JoeBiden has the integrity, moral character and record needed to beat Donald Trump in November.

Read my piece for @ajc



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Voters have been treated to a post-debate drama that has almost exclusively focused on performance versus principle. Good people stumble. Liars lie. In the face of the latter, we have become myopically fascinated because, for some, soothing anxiety seems easier than confronting the slow-motion death of democracy.

Let’s be clear: The wishful benefits of a contested convention or a late-stage exit are vastly outweighed by the potential harm. President Joe Biden has the integrity, moral character and record needed to beat Donald Trump in November. Our path to victory lies in standing by Biden and understanding the high stakes of this election.

The anti-Biden doom loop feels loud right now, but it is largely a phenomenon among those who obsessively follow the news or want to make the news. Most of the voters Biden has won and needs to win again already know his foibles — and they aren’t turning in droves to say, “I’m now voting for the bombastic fascistic liar.”

Former President Donald Trump has made clear his plans to be a “Dictator on Day 1,” and has openly called for the termination of our Constitution, threatening the very foundation of our democracy. His return to power would deepen this threat, normalizing behavior that undermines our democratic institutions. He is a self-serving felon whose dictatorial tendencies presage a glide path to authoritarianism.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:08 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
Murdock wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Murdock wrote:
I have to admit here I am a little confused... perhaps CL or DMR can clarify these remarks to me...

Quote:


Pelosi: "Time is running short" for Biden to decide on re-election bid

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that "we're all encouraging" President Biden to make a final decision on whether he will continue his re-election bid.


https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/nancy-pelosi-biden-2024-run

I was under the impression that President Biden had already made this decision, and is staying in and running, but Pelosi is implying that he hasn't decided yet?!?

What is happening here, I feel like I'm being gaslit here..


He has, and he has been steadfastly adamant about it. He's never even hinted that he is still deciding, this is just Pelosi pushing an agenda (and a very dangerous one at that) that she and some other Dems won't let go of. And to be honest, they represent a bigger threat to enabling a Trump victory than Biden does. This is a time for unity, and I have lost a great deal of respect for Pelosi because she knows what's up, but she's simply pandering to a group of voters for her own agrandizement.


These comments from Pelosi made me do a double take, and made her sound like she was the one having some cognative issues or is doing some serious gaslighting..


They misquoted her and left out the full context of her remarks. She went on Morning Joe and slammed the media for trying to spin her words into something they weren't.


Listen to her entire quote. She praised him to the highest. They left that out. Draw you own conclusion from the entire quote, not the snippet.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:09 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
Murdock wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Murdock wrote:
I have to admit here I am a little confused... perhaps CL or DMR can clarify these remarks to me...

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Pelosi: "Time is running short" for Biden to decide on re-election bid

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that "we're all encouraging" President Biden to make a final decision on whether he will continue his re-election bid.


https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/nancy-pelosi-biden-2024-run

I was under the impression that President Biden had already made this decision, and is staying in and running, but Pelosi is implying that he hasn't decided yet?!?

What is happening here, I feel like I'm being gaslit here..


He has, and he has been steadfastly adamant about it. He's never even hinted that he is still deciding, this is just Pelosi pushing an agenda (and a very dangerous one at that) that she and some other Dems won't let go of. And to be honest, they represent a bigger threat to enabling a Trump victory than Biden does. This is a time for unity, and I have lost a great deal of respect for Pelosi because she knows what's up, but she's simply pandering to a group of voters for her own agrandizement.


These comments from Pelosi made me do a double take, and made her sound like she was the one having some cognative issues or is doing some serious gaslighting..


They misquoted her and left out the full context of her remarks. She went on Morning Joe and slammed the media for trying to spin her words into something they weren't.


Sounds like she may have softened her stance, but she was very clear about stating he should step down last week.
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🧵🧵🧵I spent the day at the AKA convention in Dallas where VP Harris spoke and I am still hard pressed to find a Black voter who thinks it’s a good idea to push President Biden off the ticket even people who are mega fans of Harris. I am just not hearing this from Black voters.·

First up is Dennisa Thomas.

She's a 31-year-old systems engineer from Kansas City, Missouri.

She told me she trusts VP Kamala Harris' judgement and is following Harris' lead in continuing to support the Democratic ticket as it currently stands.

Jill Nickerson is a 61-year-old retired school counselor in Wynne, Arkansas.

She continues to support the Biden/Harris ticket. She's sympathetic about Biden's debate performance, "If every time I didn't do my job the right way, I got fired or chewed out, I wouldn't have a job."

Chinella Webb is a 57-year-old MRI tech in Birmingham.

She dismissed the calls for Biden to step aside as "chatter" but added if Harris is tapped for the top of the ticket, she "is the perfect candidate to do whatever needs to be done."

"We are standing behind our president."

New York writer Ginger McKnight-Chavers told us, "It could be a cardboard cut out."

She didn't care, as long as the Democratic candidate could beat Trump.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:28 pm    Post subject:

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Keep fighting, @JoeBiden, we have your back! In my district, with every call and every request, you have been there! Over and over, you have proven that you are the right person for this job. It is time for everyone to unite and beat Trump and his Project 2025! Enough is enough!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:37 pm    Post subject:

Yes, even MSNBC is in on the anti-Biden propaganda. Here is how they highlight a partial quote to strip it of all context to mean the opposite of what was said. Here was an MSNBC tweet from earlier today. And the Readers added the full quote and context.

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MOMENTS AGO: Dem Sen. Blumenthal: "I am deeply concerned" about President Biden.


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Readers added context they thought people might want to know
This quote is misrepresenting the senators point and missing important context.

In the full quote, seen in the video, Sen Blumenthal says “I am deeply concerned about Joe Biden winning this election because it is an existential threat to the country if Donald Trump wins.


And that's how they mislead people and CREATE the news rather than REPORTING the news.
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The AFL-CIO Executive Council unanimously voted today to reaffirm its commitment to re-electing President Biden and VP Harris. Unions have never wavered in our support of them because they’ve never wavered in their commitment to working people.

Read our full statement here:
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:15 pm    Post subject:

Here is a long detailed thread from a Michigan county election official explaining how the mechanics and logistics of running an organized election that people would have confidence in is almost impossible if we try to switch candidates at this late date. It would create chaos that Trump and Republicans would surely take advantage of to challenge the results.

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Hi there! 👋 Ingham County Clerk Barb Byrum, here. To all of those calling for a change of candidacy in the Presidential Race, please note that the election administration community is going to have some serious issues with that. 🧵


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Here is a long detailed thread from a Michigan county election official explaining how the mechanics and logistics of running an organized election that people would have confidence in is almost impossible if we try to switch candidates at this late date. It would create chaos that Trump and Republicans would surely take advantage of to challenge the results.

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Hi there! 👋 Ingham County Clerk Barb Byrum, here. To all of those calling for a change of candidacy in the Presidential Race, please note that the election administration community is going to have some serious issues with that. 🧵


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Exactly, the GOP/Trump's lawyers have already got a mountain of lawsuits that they're going to file the moment if/when President Biden steps down.
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Here is a long detailed thread from a Michigan county election official explaining how the mechanics and logistics of running an organized election that people would have confidence in is almost impossible if we try to switch candidates at this late date. It would create chaos that Trump and Republicans would surely take advantage of to challenge the results.

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Hi there! 👋 Ingham County Clerk Barb Byrum, here. To all of those calling for a change of candidacy in the Presidential Race, please note that the election administration community is going to have some serious issues with that. 🧵


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Exactly, the GOP/Trump's lawyers have already got a mountain of lawsuits that they're going to file the moment if/when President Biden steps down.


Yes, and they would also challenge results AFTER the election stemming from a potentially chaotic voting process. They would challenge individual ballots, try to have ballots thrown out, allege cheating. All the stuff they tried last time when everything actually ran smoothly. If we switch candidates, the process will be anything but smooth, even in Blue states. They would try to throw the election back to the House to overrule the will of the people. Like they were trying to do on 1/6.

But I'm sure George Clooney sipping wine at his Italian villa has gamed this all out and surely can just snap his privileged fingers and make these inconvenient facts disappear. Poof.

All these actors, celebs, pundits and politicians who hopped on the anti-Biden train are dead to me. Forever.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:43 pm    Post subject:

I suggest ignoring the polls. But if people are going to post "negative" polls, I'm going to post "positive" polls to level the emotional playing field. All we really know is that the race is close and we need to work like hell to get Biden re-elected.

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It seems significant that the three candidates the pundit class have most often proposed to usurp Biden—Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, and Whitmer—are unwavering in their support for him.


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@JoeBiden is in it to win it and I’m damn proud to support him.

8:56 PM · Jul 10, 2024



She also appeared on CNN:

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Whitmer: I understand that some are playing fantasy football and want to just pick a couple of random leaders that they like across the country and design a ticket that's just not how this works…


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:58 pm    Post subject:

Best quote I’ve seen summing up the self destructive Democrats committed to the Biden must be replaced contingent so Trump can win:

They think it will teach the DNC a "lesson".
That will play out in some imagined future election.
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Best quote I’ve seen summing up the self destructive Democrats committed to the Biden must be replaced contingent so Trump can win:

They think it will teach the DNC a "lesson".
That will play out in some imagined future election.


Just like they taught Hillary a lesson and then the resulting right-wing Supreme Court repealed Roe, neutered government agencies and made Trump a king! But Susan Sarandon and her ilk really showed us! And those who repeat the mistake will be ending democracy for all of us. Ain't stupidity grand?
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I have to admit here I am a little confused... perhaps CL or DMR can clarify these remarks to me...

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Pelosi: "Time is running short" for Biden to decide on re-election bid

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that "we're all encouraging" President Biden to make a final decision on whether he will continue his re-election bid.


https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/nancy-pelosi-biden-2024-run

I was under the impression that President Biden had already made this decision, and is staying in and running, but Pelosi is implying that he hasn't decided yet?!?

What is happening here, I feel like I'm being gaslit here..


He has, and he has been steadfastly adamant about it. He's never even hinted that he is still deciding, this is just Pelosi pushing an agenda (and a very dangerous one at that) that she and some other Dems won't let go of. And to be honest, they represent a bigger threat to enabling a Trump victory than Biden does. This is a time for unity, and I have lost a great deal of respect for Pelosi because she knows what's up, but she's simply pandering to a group of voters for her own agrandizement.


She's a shrewd politician.
I have to assume she saw some rough internal polling.
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