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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | WEIRD??
| Quote: | Trump claimed during a rally speech in Harrisburg on Wednesday that a friend of his had presented Helen Comperatore, Corey’s wife, with a check for $1 million and that crowdfunding efforts were now in the millions.
“But you know what?” Trump said to supporters. “Corey’s wife said, ‘I’d rather have my husband.’”
“Isn’t that good?” Trump continued. “I know a lot of wives that would not say that, I’m sorry. They would not say that.
The audience lapped up the comment and laughed.
“But no, it’s a great family. He was a great man. He was a brave man,” said Trump, who later led a moment of silence for Comperatore. |
https://www.yahoo.com/news/critics-stunned-donald-trump-heartless-062248619.html |
Yup, Melania.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | I don't go on Truth Social but this is sad.
| Quote: | If you haven’t checked into Truth Social recently, Trump has gone full birther on Kamala Harris.
I don’t understand how Republicans of good faith can stand by this. We are better than this as a country. |
https://x.com/Alyssafarah/status/1819156520640434452 |
I just had a wild memory that Republicans tried to push this narrative in 2020 too. The theory goes that her father isn't actually black because... ummm, something about if you check some part of her father's ancestry there's a white slaveholder in there. Or something like that.
Trump must be trying to hone in on that, which is comical. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | tox wrote: | | I wonder if this "Kamala isn't black" thing is an attempt to get her to lean into her identity because they know identity politics is a losing issue. I think the current news cycles are terrible for Republicans but maybe they're hoping it's a long term shift? Trump is an undisciplined idiot but it does seem like a coordinated plan, weirdly |
Trump just genuinely hates black women at his core. It's less a plan than who he is. They have nothing else to run on so they are doubling down on the racism that won over the cult in the first place. But 2024 is a lot different than 2016. They have no positive polices to make people's lives better. They have the usual tax cuts for the rich and every other policy involves taking away existing rights.
He is genuinely losing his (bleep) because he might lose to a black woman.
It's not that complicated. Trump has a lizard brain. He is all impulse, hatred and fear based. That's it. There is no 3-d chess going on here. |
Oh I agree with this but I'm trying to figure why other GOPers are going along with it. They might also be as racist but they're usually a little more disciplined about what is clearly and obviously a political loser. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | WEIRD??
| Quote: | Trump claimed during a rally speech in Harrisburg on Wednesday that a friend of his had presented Helen Comperatore, Corey’s wife, with a check for $1 million and that crowdfunding efforts were now in the millions.
“But you know what?” Trump said to supporters. “Corey’s wife said, ‘I’d rather have my husband.’”
“Isn’t that good?” Trump continued. “I know a lot of wives that would not say that, I’m sorry. They would not say that.”
The audience lapped up the comment and laughed.
“But no, it’s a great family. He was a great man. He was a brave man,” said Trump, who later led a moment of silence for Comperatore. |
https://www.yahoo.com/news/critics-stunned-donald-trump-heartless-062248619.html |
I know of one for sure. You know the one that is never seen anymore. |
And she’s thinking, “why’d he have to miss”. |
I know someone else who thought that way. 
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| Quote: | | NEW: JD Vance Is An Investor In A Far Right Video Platform Filled With Neo-Nazi Content |
https://x.com/hunterw/status/1819133246393012674
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| Quote: | NEW: Kamala Harris’ running mate sweepstakes is nearing the finish line
She has yet to meet with any of the VP finalists in person. But Harris plans to do so in the coming days, the last step in an unusually condensed vetting |
https://x.com/JonLemire/status/1819170515010916696
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this is why you want to vet your VP candidate
a slight concern for the Dems given the compressed timeline, and yet another advantage of a guy like Mark Kelly who ran two highly visible campaigns as well as Whitmer |
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Another negative for Kelly is the dems could lose his senate seat in arizona and that would be a disaster.
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| 32 wrote: | | Another negative for Kelly is the dems could lose his senate seat in arizona and that would be a disaster. |
I think the Dems have considered that.
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| 32 wrote: | | Another negative for Kelly is the dems could lose his senate seat in arizona and that would be a disaster. |
We get it, you don't like Kelly (   ) But that's not true. As has been mentioned here already, the Dems get to fill his seat until a special election in 2026.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Another negative for Kelly is the dems could lose his senate seat in arizona and that would be a disaster. |
We get it, you don't like Kelly ( ) But that's not true. As has been mentioned here already, the Dems get to fill his seat until a special election in 2026. |
The problem there it’s 100% a Dem seat until 2028 with him, and given his popularity likely beyond. If he’s the VP then they face a special election during a midterm, which typically favors the opposition party. If it’s flipped red then, you’ve got an incumbent republican running in 2028. So not only do you lose a seat in 2026 that could flip the senate, you could lose it in 2028 and beyond. |
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Interesting Nate Silver said on his podcast today that KH has a 38% chance of winning but on Polymarket where he is an adviser they have KH with a 44% chance of winning.
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Being called weird is really getting under Trump's skin
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-jd-vance-weird-remarks-1235072789/
| Quote: | During a Thursday interview with conservative radio host Clay Travis, Trump attempted to reverse the criticism and said that Democrats were “the weird ones.” He insisted, “Nobody’s ever called me weird. I’m a lot of things, but weird I’m not. And I’m upfront. And he’s not either, I will tell you. J.D. is not at all. They are.”
“We’re not weird people,” Trump added. “We’re we’re actually just the opposite.
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We’ve moved to the “no, you!” phase of his campaign. |
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Trump got pwnd --
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-native-american-indians-video-harris-b2589548.html
Trump’s comments saying Native Americans ‘don’t look like Indians’ resurface after remarks about Harris’ heritage
Trump claimed that many Native American casino owners ‘don’t look like Indians’ in a 1993 congressional hearing
| Quote: | Miller fired back at Trump, saying: “Thank God that’s not the test of whether or not people have rights in this country or not – whether or not they pass your ‘look’ test.
“Mr Trump, do you know, do you know in the history of this country where we’ve heard this discussion before? ‘They don’t look Jewish to me. They don’t look Indian to me. They don’t look Italian to me.’ And that was the test for whether people could go into business, or not go into business. Whether they could get a bank loan. ‘You’re too Black, you’re not Black enough.’” |
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| trmiv wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Another negative for Kelly is the dems could lose his senate seat in arizona and that would be a disaster. |
We get it, you don't like Kelly ( ) But that's not true. As has been mentioned here already, the Dems get to fill his seat until a special election in 2026. |
The problem there it’s 100% a Dem seat until 2028 with him, and given his popularity likely beyond. If he’s the VP then they face a special election during a midterm, which typically favors the opposition party. If it’s flipped red then, you’ve got an incumbent republican running in 2028. So not only do you lose a seat in 2026 that could flip the senate, you could lose it in 2028 and beyond. |
“If . . .” And ifs down the line. The point is we don’t lose that seat simply by virtue of Kelley becoming VP. In the meantime you get a solid campaign partner AND someone who contributes to a solid administration for as much as two terms. I’m not a believer in the idea that you pass up a good option just because something might happen in a couple of years.
And if he’s that valuable, why wouldn’t you want that guy in the WH for possibly 8 years. You can deal with his vacancy in future elections as they come
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | trmiv wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Another negative for Kelly is the dems could lose his senate seat in arizona and that would be a disaster. |
We get it, you don't like Kelly ( ) But that's not true. As has been mentioned here already, the Dems get to fill his seat until a special election in 2026. |
The problem there it’s 100% a Dem seat until 2028 with him, and given his popularity likely beyond. If he’s the VP then they face a special election during a midterm, which typically favors the opposition party. If it’s flipped red then, you’ve got an incumbent republican running in 2028. So not only do you lose a seat in 2026 that could flip the senate, you could lose it in 2028 and beyond. |
“If . . .” And ifs down the line. The point is we don’t lose that seat simply by virtue of Kelley becoming VP. In the meantime you get a solid campaign partner AND someone who contributes to a solid administration for as much as two terms. I’m not a believer in the idea that you pass up a good option just because something might happen in a couple of years.
And if he’s that valuable, why wouldn’t you want that guy in the WH for possibly 8 years. You can deal with his vacancy in future elections as they come |
I don’t disagree that he’s a good choice, but considering what they’d lose in the senate has to be part of it. If they feel Shapiro gives them a lock on Pennsylvania, doesn’t majorly cost them elsewhere and keeps a needed senate seat, he’s likely the better choice. We’ll see. |
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| trmiv wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | trmiv wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Another negative for Kelly is the dems could lose his senate seat in arizona and that would be a disaster. |
We get it, you don't like Kelly ( ) But that's not true. As has been mentioned here already, the Dems get to fill his seat until a special election in 2026. |
The problem there it’s 100% a Dem seat until 2028 with him, and given his popularity likely beyond. If he’s the VP then they face a special election during a midterm, which typically favors the opposition party. If it’s flipped red then, you’ve got an incumbent republican running in 2028. So not only do you lose a seat in 2026 that could flip the senate, you could lose it in 2028 and beyond. |
“If . . .” And ifs down the line. The point is we don’t lose that seat simply by virtue of Kelley becoming VP. In the meantime you get a solid campaign partner AND someone who contributes to a solid administration for as much as two terms. I’m not a believer in the idea that you pass up a good option just because something might happen in a couple of years.
And if he’s that valuable, why wouldn’t you want that guy in the WH for possibly 8 years. You can deal with his vacancy in future elections as they come |
I don’t disagree that he’s a good choice, but considering what they’d lose in the senate has to be part of it. If they feel Shapiro gives them a lock on Pennsylvania, doesn’t majorly cost them elsewhere and keeps a needed senate seat, he’s likely the better choice. We’ll see. |
Again, losing that seat in the long term is not a given. Winning is obviously of crucial importance, but locking up just one state isn’t the end all. Once you win, you need a well rounded administration to lead going forward.
Bottom line, I sure hope Harris is looking at a bigger picture involving how her administration can best serve the nation once she wins rather than just chase the election itself.
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| There is only one consideration for the Democrats here: you pick the person that gives you the best chance to win this election. Not what happens in the Senate in 2026, not what happens in the governor's mansion in PA or KY or MN going forward, or anything else. Shapiro has always been a compelling choice because he might help to deliver PA, the single biggest tipping-point state in the entire election. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | There is only one consideration for the Democrats here: you pick the person that gives you the best chance to win this election. Not what happens in the Senate in 2026, not what happens in the governor's mansion in PA or KY or MN going forward, or anything else. Shapiro has always been a compelling choice because he might help to deliver PA, the single biggest tipping-point state in the entire election. |
True. This is game 7 right here. Lose, and it's over. |
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My perspective hasn't changed on the VP pick.
The VP pick doesn't have to be a plus for her campaign. She doesn't need someone to "put her over the top".
She has all the momentum in the world without a VP.
Just choose someone who won't be a negative. You don't want anybody who will change the narrative from what it is now.
Which is Kamala destroying the Republican ticket.
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jodeke, do you remember where you were/what you were doing the first time you turned black?
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| Omar Little wrote: | | I’ve been saying for a while there are no republicans of good faith. They’ve had to rationalize, internalize, abet, ignore, and accept a warped christofascist, anti intellectual, racist, greed worshipping, traitorous, scofflaw view that is the clear and explicit position of their party. It’s sad but at some point you have to realize you’re being naive when you allow that they are nice good people who are just ignorant about all the awful they are supporting. At the end of the day, they aren’t staying in the party despite the evil, they are staying because some significant part of it appeals to them more than decency. They are either lying to you or themselves about that, but either way, that’s not goodness. |
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| C M B wrote: | | jodeke, do you remember where you were/what you were doing the first time you turned black? |
1975. I was 12 years old on a trip to NYC. I asked a little old white lady if she needed help crossing the street and she said "get away from me, you f------g n----r!"
Been black ever since.
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The more GOP voters will love him ...
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The Harris campaign raised $310M in July. They have $377M cash on hand.
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