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| So transparent. Cherry-picking any blurb heard on Fox News where they claimed it was fake news and then ignoring all the rest of the evidence. Classic right-wing troll. |
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The Steele dossier had nothing to do with the FBI's investigation into Trump campaign's connections to Russia -- which began long before the surfacing of Steele dossier. Mueller's investigation was also separate and predicated on their own investigation. Mueller report concluding there was Russian interference in the 2016 election. If you think the Mueller report cleared Trump then it's because you believed Barr's lies about the report before it was released, and the subsequent stream of lies coming from Trump and Fox News.
But by all means, stay immersed in the delusion that it's the Democrats that are delusional, lying criminals. The more you spew that obvious nonsense here, the more people see how completely full of (bleep) that you are. |
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| Quote: | Trump power grab comes into focus in leaked Georgia videos
Leaked videos showing four Georgia defendants speaking to prosecutors in the racketeering case involving former President Trump are bringing into focus the ex-president’s desperate grab for power after losing the 2020 presidential race.
“The boss is not going to leave under any circumstances,” then-White House deputy chief of staff Dan Scavino told ex-Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis, according to Ellis’s testimony to Fulton County prosecutors a day before she entered her guilty plea.
“We are just going to stay in power,” he said.
The videos, first reported by ABC News, place Trump at the top of the chain of command of efforts to subvert the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia in his favor.
The defendants’ proffer statements bolster the narrative Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis laid out in her 98-page indictment charging Trump and 18 co-defendants with joining a criminal enterprise bent on keeping Trump in the White House.
“The entire idea behind the indictment is that Donald Trump was driving the bus and doing so in a way that was only intended to secure power,” said Anthony Michael Kreis, a law professor at Georgia State University. “To the extent that this kind of evidence supports that theory, I think it’s really damning to the good-faith justifications that have been put out by his allies and his attorneys.”
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4309830-trump-power-grab-leaked-georgia-videos/ |
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| Do it Mitch! wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: |
As CL pointed out, you keep moving the bar. Clinton agreed to a settlement the case involving how financing was reported. I suppose one can characterize that as a lie. But that has nothing to with the fact that Russia does use social media in an attempt to influence American's POV.
Russia's Information War Is Being Waged on Social Media Platforms |
I didn’t move any bar. I posted proof that the Hillary Clinton campaign lied about the Steele dossier, and its origins. She was literally caught lying about Russia gate. But, like adult children of alcoholics, Democrats just ignore that. |
Accuracy is crucial to credibility. The fine The DNC ($105,000) and ($8,000) Clinton paid as an agreed to settlement with the FEC was for dishonesty in how funding was for the dossier was disclosed It was not a fine directly associated with the actual dossier.
It's comical how you hypocritically accuse others of ignoring things as you have ignored Trump's glaring cognitive issues but repeatedly make false claims about Biden having dementia.
| Quote: | | This is literally an opinion piece that says people need to watch out for miss-information. |
It's not an "opinion" piece. It's an article discussing the dismantling of networks of accounts spreading disinformation in Russia's very real effort to manipulate opinion about the war in Ukraine and what is being done about it. If, as you claim, such a thing Wass not happening, there would have been nothing to dismantle and no need to explain how it works and what to watch out for.
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OH, the hypocrisy! Reprimand Santo for criminal activity and lying to the public. The same things Trump is doing. The Republican Party is a joke. Why in the hell do people think they're the party best to run this country? If voters don't wake up Democracy is going to be an experiment of the past.
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Ethics report finds Santos used campaign funds to pay for OnlyFans, Botox, Sephora
November 16, 202311:46 AM ET
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| Quote: | New York Republican Rep. George Santos, who represents parts of Long Island and Queens, announced today he's dropping his bid for a second term after a House ethics report blasted him for criminal activity and lying to voters.
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Isn't Trump guilty of these infractions?
| Quote: | Sought to "fraudulently exploit" every aspect of his House candidacy for personal profit
Allegedly stole from his campaign, deceiving donors and channeling contributions for personal use
Invented fictional loans to his own campaign to trick donors and Republican committees into contributing to his election war chest |
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Do it Mitch!
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | As CL pointed out, you keep moving the bar. Clinton agreed to a settlement the case involving how financing was reported. I suppose one can characterize that as a lie. But that has nothing to with the fact that Russia does use social media in an attempt to influence American's POV.. |
Not dishonesty in how funding for the dossier was disclosed. More accurately, lying to the FEC for a year about being the funder of the Steele dossier.
The Steele dossier was the beginning of the Russia gate hysteria. That’s what started the four straight years of Russia gate propaganda on a daily basis from every corporate news media outlet.
The Hillary Clinton campaign hired the law firm Perkins Coie, they hired Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS hired a spy from England, Richard Steele, to put together the dossier. That’s how the HRC campaign disguised their payments. Steele was hired to collect dirty intel on Trump under the guise of “opposition research“. We now know Steele planted fake, never verified stories of Trump Russia ties. The Hillary for America campaign released a statement about the “bombshell report” on Trump aids, “chilling ties to the Kremlin”.
“It’s chilling to learn that US intelligence officials are conducting a probe into suspected meetings between Trumps foreign policy advisor, Carter Page and members of Putin‘s inner circle, while in Moscow.“
The Clinton campaign, of course, did not disclose that it was the source of the story. All outlets quoting the press release about a “chilling connection“ had been fed disinformation.
An investigation by justice inspector general Michael Horowitz later concluded that the FBI “did not have information, corroborating the specific allegations against Carter page in Steeles reporting“ either at the time of the Isakoff piece or afterword, when it used the Steele allegations as a means to obtain authority to conduct secret surveillance of Page using the foreign intelligence surveillance.
The Steele dossier was funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign, and has been completely debunked as a hoax. |
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This is something I didn't know about Santos.
George Santos proposed to teen boyfriend while still married to a woman: report
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| Do it Mitch! wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | As CL pointed out, you keep moving the bar. Clinton agreed to a settlement the case involving how financing was reported. I suppose one can characterize that as a lie. But that has nothing to with the fact that Russia does use social media in an attempt to influence American's POV.. |
Not dishonesty in how funding for the dossier was disclosed. More accurately, lying to the FEC for a year about being the funder of the Steele dossier.
The Steele dossier was the beginning of the Russia gate hysteria. That’s what started the four straight years of Russia gate propaganda on a daily basis from every corporate news media outlet.
The Hillary Clinton campaign hired the law firm Perkins Coie, they hired Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS hired a spy from England, Richard Steele, to put together the dossier. That’s how the HRC campaign disguised their payments. Steele was hired to collect dirty intel on Trump under the guise of “opposition research“. We now know Steele planted fake, never verified stories of Trump Russia ties. The Hillary for America campaign released a statement about the “bombshell report” on Trump aids, “chilling ties to the Kremlin”.
“It’s chilling to learn that US intelligence officials are conducting a probe into suspected meetings between Trumps foreign policy advisor, Carter Page and members of Putin‘s inner circle, while in Moscow.“
The Clinton campaign, of course, did not disclose that it was the source of the story. All outlets quoting the press release about a “chilling connection“ had been fed disinformation.
An investigation by justice inspector general Michael Horowitz later concluded that the FBI “did not have information, corroborating the specific allegations against Carter page in Steeles reporting“ either at the time of the Isakoff piece or afterword, when it used the Steele allegations as a means to obtain authority to conduct secret surveillance of Page using the foreign intelligence surveillance.
The Steele dossier was funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign, and has been completely debunked as a hoax. |
Well it's a good thing the FBI and DOJ did their own investigations and didn't rely on the Steele dossier and we can trust their independent conclusions that Russia interfered and influenced the 2016 election and Trump accepted their help on his behalf. |
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 At anybody still obsessed with Hilary Clinton after what Trump has done to our country since that election.
Talk about living in a bubble.
That's like complaining about Chris Kaman sleeping on the bench while Mitch and Jim burned our franchise to the ground for 1/2 a decade.
Well, maybe that's not fair. Complaining about Kaman sleeping on the bench might be a little less ridiculous.
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| ChefLinda wrote: |
Well it's a good thing the FBI and DOJ did their own investigations and didn't rely on the Steele dossier and we can trust their independent conclusions that Russia interfered and influenced the 2016 election and Trump accepted their help on his behalf. |
Good thing the FBI was able to detect the BS stories being sourced by the HRC campaign? OK.
Problem is, thats not what the FBI concluded.
The independent conclusion of the FBI, after offering Christopher Steele, $1 million for proof of allegations in the Steele dossier, was that the information in the dossier was unreliable gossip. After they realized the information in the Trump, Russia, dossier was unreliable, they were not able to give Christopher Steele the money.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/11/politics/steele-dossier-fbi-durham-danchenko/index.html
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| kikanga wrote: | | At anybody still obsessed with Hilary Clinton after what Trump has done to our country since that |
It’s relevant because we now know the Hillary Clinton campaign was the source of the famous Steele dossier that was used by media outlets to drum up anger and outrage towards Russia. All based on lies.
It was the Russia gate hysteria that was used to manufactured the consent for the hundred billion dollar funding of the Ukraine war. Which we now know, was a giant money laundering operation. |
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| Do it Mitch! wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: |
Well it's a good thing the FBI and DOJ did their own investigations and didn't rely on the Steele dossier and we can trust their independent conclusions that Russia interfered and influenced the 2016 election and Trump accepted their help on his behalf. |
Good thing the FBI was able to detect the BS stories being sourced by the HRC campaign? OK.
Problem is, thats not what the FBI concluded.
The independent conclusion of the FBI, after offering Christopher Steele, $1 million for proof of allegations in the Steele dossier, was that the information in the dossier was unreliable gossip. After they realized the information in the Trump, Russia, dossier was unreliable, they were not able to give Christopher Steele the money.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/11/politics/steele-dossier-fbi-durham-danchenko/index.html |
You need to improve your reading comprehension.
The Steele dossier is a red herring issue from crank right-wing world. It doesn't matter what the dossier did or didn't say or who paid for it because the FBI and the Mueller investigation DIDN'T USE IT. They based their investigation on their own independent investigation.
Just stop with the bull-(bleep). You keep digging a bigger crank hole with each post. Go away and find a right-wing bulletin board where everyone else has been brainwashed the way you have.
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Since you missed this (or intentionally ignored it) earlier in the thread
| ChefLinda wrote: | The Steele dossier had nothing to do with the FBI's investigation into Trump campaign's connections to Russia -- which began long before the surfacing of Steele dossier. Mueller's investigation was also separate and predicated on their own investigation. Mueller report concluding there was Russian interference in the 2016 election. If you think the Mueller report cleared Trump then it's because you believed Barr's lies about the report before it was released, and the subsequent stream of lies coming from Trump and Fox News.
But by all means, stay immersed in the delusion that it's the Democrats that are delusional, lying criminals. The more you spew that obvious nonsense here, the more people see how completely full of (bleep) that you are. |
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| Do it Mitch! wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | At anybody still obsessed with Hilary Clinton after what Trump has done to our country since that |
It’s relevant because we now know the Hillary Clinton campaign was the source of the famous Steele dossier that was used by media outlets to drum up anger and outrage towards Russia. All based on lies.
It was the Russia gate hysteria that was used to manufactured the consent for the hundred billion dollar funding of the Ukraine war. Which we now know, was a giant money laundering operation. |
Russia invaded Ukraine. That was not manufactured by some leftwing global conspiracy as you seem to believe. Really, pathetic. |
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Do It Mitch!
Here's a link to the actual Mueller report that concludes Russian interfered in the 2016 election and details the many intersections with the Trump campaign. Read it yourself and then stop regurgitating nonsense right-wing talking points here.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download |
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| Do it Mitch! wrote: |
It’s relevant because we now know the Hillary Clinton campaign was the source of the famous Steele dossier that was used by media outlets to drum up anger and outrage towards Russia. All based on lies.
It was the Russia gate hysteria that was used to manufactured the consent for the hundred billion dollar funding of the Ukraine war. Which we now know, was a giant money laundering operation. |
This is some seriously wackadoodle (bleep). Where do you guys come up with this stuff?
Still waiting for this dude to say who won the 2020 election. |
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The Steele dossier was mostly used by talk show hosts to talk about golden showers.
As CL keeps pointing out, we literally have a Mueller Report that talks about the extent of the relationship between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the troll keeps bringing up the Steele dossier as if it's the Democratic Bible.
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REMEMBER LINK Then again,some are wake up calls.
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| trmiv wrote: | | Do it Mitch! wrote: |
It’s relevant because we now know the Hillary Clinton campaign was the source of the famous Steele dossier that was used by media outlets to drum up anger and outrage towards Russia. All based on lies.
It was the Russia gate hysteria that was used to manufactured the consent for the hundred billion dollar funding of the Ukraine war. Which we now know, was a giant money laundering operation. |
This is some seriously wackadoodle (bleep). Where do you guys come up with this stuff?
Still waiting for this dude to say who won the 2020 election. |
The most ridiculous (and dangerous) thing about right-wingers like DIM is the attitude that Russia is actually an ally the US should embrace rather than one of our most dangerous enemies of the last three-quarters of a century. They have absolutely lost their Q-loving minds, which is why insidious propaganda totally works on them.
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| Do it Mitch! wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | At anybody still obsessed with Hilary Clinton after what Trump has done to our country since that |
It’s relevant because we now know the Hillary Clinton campaign was the source of the famous Steele dossier that was used by media outlets to drum up anger and outrage towards Russia. All based on lies.
It was the Russia gate hysteria that was used to manufactured the consent for the hundred billion dollar funding of the Ukraine war. Which we now know, was a giant money laundering operation. |
Where do you read the bolded? I'm not saying you're lying. I just want to know your source(s).
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| Wilt wrote: | The Steele dossier was mostly used by talk show hosts to talk about golden showers.
As CL keeps pointing out, we literally have a Mueller Report that talks about the extent of the relationship between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the troll keeps bringing up the Steele dossier as if it's the Democratic Bible. |
The Steele dossier, which was funded by the DNC and the Hillary Clinton campaign, is what was used to get a FISA warrant on the Trump administration. They used opposition research paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign to get a FISA warrant for the FBI to spy on the entire Trump campaign.
That is highly unethical.
The Mueller report established that there was no evidence of a Trump Russia conspiracy. It was a massive political gift to Donald Trump. The Mueller report, which people keep citing, was a massive dud. NBC news did a tracker, and reported that Mueller deflected, or declined to answer 198 times.
When Mueller appeared before the house intelligence committee, he seemed to be unaware of what was in his own report. When he was asked if he had found evidence if Trump conspired in the release of stolen emails by WikiLeaks, Mueller said that was “not in his purview”. when asked about the firm who produced the Steele reporting, he said that he was not familiar with the firm Fusion GPS. He was the head of the investigation, he was embarrassingly unfamiliar with major aspects of his own investigation. The Mueller investigation was a dud, and a massive disappointment to the Democrats. And anyone saying that it produced evidence of a Trump Russia connection, is straight up lying. |
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| kikanga wrote: | | Do it Mitch! wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | At anybody still obsessed with Hilary Clinton after what Trump has done to our country since that |
It’s relevant because we now know the Hillary Clinton campaign was the source of the famous Steele dossier that was used by media outlets to drum up anger and outrage towards Russia. All based on lies.
It was the Russia gate hysteria that was used to manufactured the consent for the hundred billion dollar funding of the Ukraine war. Which we now know, was a giant money laundering operation. |
Where do you read the bolded? I'm not saying you're lying. I just want to know your source(s). |
Please don’t feed the troll. If he was genuinely concerned about money laundering et al, he wouldn’t be going after Democrats.
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I knew it was a bad idea, and yet I still did it.
Maybe if we say he's right about everything he'll stop?
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | Do it Mitch! wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | At anybody still obsessed with Hilary Clinton after what Trump has done to our country since that |
It’s relevant because we now know the Hillary Clinton campaign was the source of the famous Steele dossier that was used by media outlets to drum up anger and outrage towards Russia. All based on lies.
It was the Russia gate hysteria that was used to manufactured the consent for the hundred billion dollar funding of the Ukraine war. Which we now know, was a giant money laundering operation. |
Where do you read the bolded? I'm not saying you're lying. I just want to know your source(s). |
Please don’t feed the troll. If he was genuinely concerned about money laundering et al, he wouldn’t be going after Democrats. |
Aww. You’re no fun! I was slow playin it!
Now I gotta go watch videos of Jordan Klapper interviewing people at a Trump rally instead!
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guy went into a coma in 2017 and woke up still on the Russia, Russia, Russia algorithm
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