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Dominator Star Player

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 8820 Location: Irvine
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:15 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | What really irks me is that he had the #1 and championship dominant defense and blue print, trashed all the pieces into the garbage and then even though he had a chance to get back to that level using WB's expring deal + draft picks he instead used it on offense first/1-way players.
Not only did he give AD/Bron elite offense ala Warriors/Nuggets at their best, he didn't even give them back the elite defense they once had in the 2019-2021 era.
It isn't hard to build defense around AD. Pelinka has made it. The blue print was right there for him. Athletic big with long arms that can rim protect, guards and small wings that will give high defensive motors off the ball, run around and through screens if they have to. A POA defender. AD being able to play the 4 and 5. It isn't some rocket science. He's made it that way. |
I'm not trying to defend Pelinka or anything but it doesn't help that the second best defender on the team is a creampuff. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number


Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 145553 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Dominator wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | What really irks me is that he had the #1 and championship dominant defense and blue print, trashed all the pieces into the garbage and then even though he had a chance to get back to that level using WB's expring deal + draft picks he instead used it on offense first/1-way players.
Not only did he give AD/Bron elite offense ala Warriors/Nuggets at their best, he didn't even give them back the elite defense they once had in the 2019-2021 era.
It isn't hard to build defense around AD. Pelinka has made it. The blue print was right there for him. Athletic big with long arms that can rim protect, guards and small wings that will give high defensive motors off the ball, run around and through screens if they have to. A POA defender. AD being able to play the 4 and 5. It isn't some rocket science. He's made it that way. |
I'm not trying to defend Pelinka or anything but it doesn't help that the second best defender on the team is a creampuff. |
The team that Pelinka put together _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Reds622 Star Player

Joined: 22 May 2015 Posts: 1772
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:43 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Reds622 wrote: | ocho wrote: | Quote: | Anyone that thinks Presti wouldn’t be an overwhelming improvement is crazy or trolling. |
Leaning towards trolling in this case. Feeling charitable. |
I don’t know who you are, or who you think you are, but failing to articulate your position in any sort of meaningful way is a YOU problem. |
As is a lack of reading comprehension |
Everyone’s favorite Clipper fan.
Everyone should try and write out clearly and explicitly their point of view/the argument they are trying to make.
It’s no one’s job to make assumptions. |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player


Joined: 07 May 2014 Posts: 14951 Location: Boulder ;)
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Did LeBron and Davis give Pelinka the green light to gut the team for Westbrook
Who convinced Pelinka THT was better than Caruso
I don't think a competent GM would have allowed these trades or allowed his players to convince him to gut the team for Captain ADHD Westbrick
Hindsight is 20/20... But where was the foresight |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player


Joined: 05 Jan 2016 Posts: 13463
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:23 am Post subject: |
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This season was all Pelinka, btw. He said it himself he makes all the final decisions. Not sure what more you want to see from Pelinka.
If you keep defending Pelinka, then that must mean you are ok with the current state of the Lakers. Don't replace Pelinka if you like watching play-in basketball every year. God help us if we couldn't even make the play-in with AD on the team. _________________ Lakers used to average one championship every four years under Dr. Buss but I'd gladly take one every ten years now. |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player


Joined: 05 Jan 2016 Posts: 13463
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:36 am Post subject: |
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FYI, Pelinka tried to sign Klay and could have gotten Grant this offseason so he dodged two massive bullets like a bawss. We're terrible now but it could have been even worse. Just sayin'
Do...you...still...believe...in...Pelinka?
I believe in Santa Claus but I don't believe Pelinka could win another championship with the Lakers. _________________ Lakers used to average one championship every four years under Dr. Buss but I'd gladly take one every ten years now. |
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kwase Star Player


Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 3093
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not a fan of Pelinka either, but there were several free agents this summer and they all said no to the Lakers. We have one of the best defenders in the league who's a top 75 player and a guy who claims he's the GOAT....but players didn't come to L.A. to play for the Lakers because of Pelinka. Get real!!! |
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Halflife Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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kwase wrote: | I'm not a fan of Pelinka either, but there were several free agents this summer and they all said no to the Lakers. We have one of the best defenders in the league who's a top 75 player and a guy who claims he's the GOAT....but players didn't come to L.A. to play for the Lakers because of Pelinka. Get real!!! |
This. We are not a destination for players or coaches with the current team.
Everyone knows they will be blamed. Which would be fine if they got to shop for the groceries |
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lakersfan8 Star Player

Joined: 27 May 2014 Posts: 3243
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:29 am Post subject: |
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We have not been the top destination for players for a long time. Back in the day, we had a top GM who is also an HOF, Jerry West, in the front office. We also had one of the greatest coaches of all time, Phil Jackson. Free agent wanted to come here not just because Lakers were the most popular team in the NBA. I feel like the favourable destinations for players now are the Warriors and Heats. It is not a coincidence that both teams have a highly respected coach and front office.
The Lakers have an inexperienced GM and coach. They haven't established any reputation to make players want to play for them |
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governator Retired Number


Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 27101
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Pull of a Fox to Lakers Rob and the extension is justified _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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DrWolf Starting Rotation


Joined: 27 Jun 2012 Posts: 593 Location: At the basketball court next to yours, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:16 am Post subject: |
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lakersfever714 wrote: | This season was all Pelinka, btw. He said it himself he makes all the final decisions. Not sure what more you want to see from Pelinka.
If you keep defending Pelinka, then that must mean you are ok with the current state of the Lakers. Don't replace Pelinka if you like watching play-in basketball every year. God help us if we couldn't even make the play-in with AD on the team. |
this right on the money. _________________ Indianapolis Colts
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2020 WORLD CHAMPION LAKERS!
2020 2024 WORLD CHAMPION DODGERS! |
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Dilla_ Star Player

Joined: 25 Oct 2015 Posts: 1293
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Would people rather have Pelinka in charge or Jesse Buss take over? _________________ Coach MWP. |
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ocho Retired Number


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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Dilla_ wrote: | Would people rather have Pelinka in charge or Jesse Buss take over? |
Neither. Let’s go get a pro. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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zambia Star Player

Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 1510
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Dilla_ wrote: | Would people rather have Pelinka in charge or Jesse Buss take over? |
Jesse is the Assistant GM, I blame him also. |
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zambia Star Player

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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Pull of a Fox to Lakers Rob and the extension is justified |
Rich Paul is presently working on that. |
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MJST Retired Number


Joined: 06 Jul 2014 Posts: 29209
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Ah yes... an athletic point guard that needs the ball in his hands 95% of the time to be effective and is a career 33% three point shooter and is very much not a catch and shoot off ball guy, on a team with LeBron James...
And needing to give up tons of depth to get said player...especially with the new rules in place.
What could possibly go wrong.. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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governator Retired Number


Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 27101
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:35 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Ah yes... an athletic point guard that needs the ball in his hands 95% of the time to be effective and is a career 33% three point shooter and is very much not a catch and shoot off ball guy, on a team with LeBron James...
And needing to give up tons of depth to get said player...especially with the new rules in place.
What could possibly go wrong.. |
R u referring to Fox? Like u wouldn’t trade for him while retaining AD/Bron/Bronny? _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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governator Retired Number


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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:36 am Post subject: |
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zambia wrote: | governator wrote: | Pull of a Fox to Lakers Rob and the extension is justified |
Rich Paul is presently working on that. |
This would set us up for the next half decade _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number


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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Ah yes... an athletic point guard that needs the ball in his hands 95% of the time to be effective and is a career 33% three point shooter and is very much not a catch and shoot off ball guy, on a team with LeBron James...
And needing to give up tons of depth to get said player...especially with the new rules in place.
What could possibly go wrong.. |
You do know that LeBron’s days here are numbered? Making a long term decision and considering LeBron’s fit doesn’t make sense. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 71350 Location: In a world where admitting to not knowing something is considered a great way to learn.
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | zambia wrote: | governator wrote: | Pull of a Fox to Lakers Rob and the extension is justified |
Rich Paul is presently working on that. |
This would set us up for the next half decade |
It's never gonna happen. The way the Lakers treated Mike Brown there's no way in hell they'll let us have De'Aaron Fox, if that's who you're talking about. Plus they're in the same division. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves. |
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anth2000 Franchise Player


Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 13330 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | governator wrote: | zambia wrote: | governator wrote: | Pull of a Fox to Lakers Rob and the extension is justified |
Rich Paul is presently working on that. |
This would set us up for the next half decade |
It's never gonna happen. The way the Lakers treated Mike Brown there's no way in hell they'll let us have De'Aaron Fox, if that's who you're talking about. Plus they're in the same division. |
Exactly. Fox a’int coming people. |
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miggz23 Star Player

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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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This is the type rumor news that will make Rob sit on assets even longer… Lakers trying to make a move way before the deadline is all smokescreen bs. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think people give Magic enough credit for being president of basketball operations. I believe him when he said he was handcuffed. Rob got the job because of Kobe. He had no GM experience. If he corrals De'Aaron Fox an extension is on lock. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves. |
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tox Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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say what you will about him but trades do not get leaked under him |
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governator Retired Number


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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | say what you will about him but trades do not get leaked under him |
Magical _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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