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manlisten
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | Lakeshow23_ wrote: | | LukaDoncic wrote: | | LakersARETheGOAT wrote: | I’ll keep saying it until he is fired. He sucks! And ppl are blinded by Luka falling into his lap  |
Why? Because he did his due diligence and didn't cave to a bad deal? |
Because he shelled out all of our remaining assets for damaged goods. There's a reason Charlotte approached him for the deal. |
Shams said Pelinka made a clause in the deal that it was contingent on Williams passing a physical. He gave himself an out in case they lied. Funny thing is they did lie and because of said clause he tore up the deal |
https://x.com/ESPNNBA/status/1888423073906328034
I don't think that's what Shams said unless there was a follow up. It's a requirement for every trade. A team can still accept a trade regardless if they want but there's no additional clause needed to rescind a trade based on a failed physical.
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lakersfan8
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| This kind of injury concern should be used to lower down Williams trade value. An unprotected FRP should never be included in this trade yet we also gave a pick swap. The other GM comvinced Rob that we should overpay for a player that addressed our need. Rob fell for it and didn’t use the injury concern as a leverage. I wonder when would an inexperienced GM become experienced? |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | | This kind of injury concern should be used to lower down Williams trade value. An unprotected FRP should never be included in this trade yet we also gave a pick swap. The other GM comvinced Rob that we should overpay for a player that addressed our need. Rob fell for it and didn’t use the injury concern as a leverage. I wonder when would an inexperienced GM become experienced? |
How will rob know this if the hornets withheld injury information? |
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lakersfan8
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| Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | lakersfan8 wrote: | | This kind of injury concern should be used to lower down Williams trade value. An unprotected FRP should never be included in this trade yet we also gave a pick swap. The other GM comvinced Rob that we should overpay for a player that addressed our need. Rob fell for it and didn’t use the injury concern as a leverage. I wonder when would an inexperienced GM become experienced? |
How will rob know this if the hornets withheld injury information? |
We are talking about different issues here. Hornets intentionally withheld some information about Williams that Rob would not be able to get access to. This is not on Rob.
But let's not act like Williams had no injury concerns before this trade. Everyone knew there was clearly a red flag in this area. A wise GM would use this as leverage to lower the asking price. |
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Got more work to do Rob, glad you didn’t get robbed but need to convince one of these old back up C to come here, now
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lakersfever714
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Since when did Pelinka start listening to players for personnel decisions again?
If Luka said he likes William but Pelinka doesn't, does Pelinka become a yes-man and still pursue him anyways or does he respectfully decline Luka's request?
I think it's a bad idea what Luka wants Luka gets. I don't think players should mettle into personnel decisions at all, even when Lebron was doing it. Players should just play and let the GMs do what they're supposedly professional at.
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | Since when did Pelinka start listening to players for personnel decisions again?
If Luka said he likes William but Pelinka doesn't, does Pelinka become a yes-man and still pursue him anyways or does he respectfully decline Luka's request? |
track record says Westbrook
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| governator wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | Since when did Pelinka start listening to players for personnel decisions again?
If Luka said he likes William but Pelinka doesn't, does Pelinka become a yes-man and still pursue him anyways or does he respectfully decline Luka's request? |
track record says Westbrook |
And THT over Caruso. |
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The last five years Rob has been one of the best GM's in the league. Some analysts say he should have won executive of the year in 2020. And now they are saying he should win executive of the year this year.
Major accomplishiments
1. Signed Lebron
2. Traded for AD
3. Championship
4. Western Conference Finals
5. Traded for Luka
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anth2000
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I am happy Pelinka had an out.
With that said, if I am Williams, I would ask for a buyout and join the Lakers.
Doubt that can happy.
So, why is there no damn timetable on Wood coming back?
Super annoying that this fool knew a year ago basically, that he needed surgery and waited until training camp to do it?
Thanks a lot, Christian.
With that said, who are some viable options?
Anyone we think might ask for a buyout still? |
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JeezyXVII
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| anth2000 wrote: | I am happy Pelinka had an out.
With that said, if I am Williams, I would ask for a buyout and join the Lakers.
Doubt that can happy.
So, why is there no damn timetable on Wood coming back?
Super annoying that this fool knew a year ago basically, that he needed surgery and waited until training camp to do it?
Thanks a lot, Christian.
With that said, who are some viable options?
Anyone we think might ask for a buyout still? |
Very bonehead and unprofessional indeed.. but in a business world. he's looking out for self-interest and locked in his payday. |
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lakersfever714
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| 32 wrote: | The last five years Rob has been one of the best GM's in the league. Some analysts say he should have won executive of the year in 2020. And now they are saying he should win executive of the year this year.
Major accomplishiments
1. Signed Lebron
2. Traded for AD
3. Championship
4. Western Conference Finals
5. Traded for Luka |
LeBron was already on the team when Pelinka became GM. Then AD wanted to come to LA. Pelinka didn't convince Pelicans to trade him just like how Pelinka didn't convince Nico to trade Luka.
Pelinka got credit for putting together the package for AD and Luka. Pelinka got credit for AR, DK and Caruso but also responsible for losing Caruso. I'm liking Pelinka a bit more now because of how AR and DK are turning out.
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