I have access SportsNet set up to automatically record on my DVR and I noticed that today they were doing something different is coming on way earlier than usual, so this is why. I just got an email about it. Let me see where else it can be seen/heard…
EDIT - well can't find anything besides SportsNet to see it live I'm sure it'll pop up on some stream somewhere. But on the email it says that it'll be available on lakers.com later.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:51 pm Post subject:
Alright they've been vague all press conference about the different personnel questions but Darvin Ham just definitively declared and stated that DLO will be the starting point guard. _________________ #NiceWorkPelinka
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:07 pm Post subject:
Rob and I are on the same page, building around our youth. I like what he said about AD. He said he's working on his body. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:33 pm Post subject:
ocho wrote:
TDRock wrote:
So that was interesting. It was largely a pep rally but interesting things were said.
Particularly confirming a suspicion of mine that Prince may play some 2.
Yes. I think Taurean is going to factor into things more so than people think. Because as long as he doesn't succumb to the "Lakers curse" lol he really is an excellent shooter (and if memory serves a capable defender) _________________ #NiceWorkPelinka
Alright they've been vague all press conference about the different personnel questions but Darvin Ham just definitively declared and stated that DLO will be the starting point guard.
Which I am fine with. Give DLO the chance to hold the position. Gabe has a whole season to change Darvin's mind. It's up to him to earn that position. Or earn more minutes than DLO. I don't think who starts is that important. It's more important who finishes games.
DLO did well in the regular season as the starting PG and the Lakers won a lot of games. They also won 2 series vs Ja and Steph. DLO is not guarding them, but DLO's size allows him to guard wings when need be. And Vando can guard from 1 to 4.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:59 pm Post subject:
Darvin gave up 2 starters, Dlo playing 1, and Austin playing 2. He also talked about the new rules concerning playing star players. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Imma go out on a limb and say LeBron and AD will also start. Who will Ham put in for the fifth starter?
My guess he'll go with a Forward as opposed to a Center, and the first crack at it may be Rui. _________________ "LeBron for three!" is BY FAR the worst sentence in the English language.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:20 pm Post subject:
joeblow wrote:
Imma go out on a limb and say LeBron and AD will also start. Who will Ham put in for the fifth starter?
My guess he'll go with a Forward as opposed to a Center, and the first crack at it may be Rui.
Those 2 are givens. I'm with you on Rui. I'm gonna keep my eye on Christian Wood. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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If Vandy developed a semi-reliable open corner trey, they may give him a shot with the fifth starter spot.
Back court defense is shaky as it is, so Ham may want to help the unit out by plugging a defender like that in with the starters (especially now that LeBron is in year 21). _________________ "LeBron for three!" is BY FAR the worst sentence in the English language.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:43 pm Post subject:
I would consider Vandy even if he hasn’t developed that shot. They need someone to guard the bigger wings of the league and that wouldn’t be Lebron. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Imma go out on a limb and say LeBron and AD will also start. Who will Ham put in for the fifth starter?
My guess he'll go with a Forward as opposed to a Center, and the first crack at it may be Rui.
Those 2 are givens. I'm with you on Rui. I'm gonna keep my eye on Christian Wood.
Ham said that the 5th starting spot is up for grabs. I guess it will depends on training camp.
But will most likely come down between Rui/Vando/Wood imo.
Wood can't play SF whereas Rui and Vando can, so IMO Wood is out. I'd even say Prince would be more likely than Wood but seeing how we extended/re-signed both Rui and Vando to multi-year deals, it is almost a foregone conclusion it is one of them.
So the question is:
Does Vando's Shot beat Rui's D? If yes, Vando starts. Otherwise, Rui starts.
I would consider Vandy even if he hasn’t developed that shot. They need someone to guard the bigger wings of the league and that wouldn’t be Lebron.
That's my pick. They may go situational, but they need a versatile defensive ace to cover their issues. He can defend star wings or help with guards some like he did the first 2 rounds, or some bigs. I'll take the lack of gravity and let Rui get more touches off the bench.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:03 pm Post subject:
fansincemagic wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
I would consider Vandy even if he hasn’t developed that shot. They need someone to guard the bigger wings of the league and that wouldn’t be Lebron.
That's my pick. They may go situational, but they need a versatile defensive ace to cover their issues. He can defend star wings or help with guards some like he did the first 2 rounds, or some bigs. I'll take the lack of gravity and let Rui get more touches off the bench.
The bolded is the other reason to start Vando. If they start Rui, Rui may be relegated to being a spot-up shooter and standing around watching LeBron, AD, DLo and Reaves. But if Rui is our sixth man, we will need him to score and be aggressive, and he will have the opportunity to get shots and make plays on the ball. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
I would consider Vandy even if he hasn’t developed that shot. They need someone to guard the bigger wings of the league and that wouldn’t be Lebron.
That's my pick. They may go situational, but they need a versatile defensive ace to cover their issues. He can defend star wings or help with guards some like he did the first 2 rounds, or some bigs. I'll take the lack of gravity and let Rui get more touches off the bench.
The bolded is the other reason to start Vando. If they start Rui, Rui may be relegated to being a spot-up shooter and standing around watching LeBron, AD, DLo and Reaves. But if Rui is our sixth man, we will need him to score and be aggressive, and he will have the opportunity to get shots and make plays on the ball.
That's what I'm hoping for but he didn't exactly set the world on fire when Lebron was out for a month. He may be more of a complementary player than we'd like. A good complementary player mind you but still just that. Hoping that a training camp and some team building will fix that otherwise. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
Ham : "5th spot is up for grabs"
LGers: "Its Rui! No its Vando!, Maybe Wood?"
Ham: "Wait, i need that third guard!"
And here I thought I could go to sleep tonight in peace until I realized that knowing Ham, you're probably right. _________________ "LeBron for three!" is BY FAR the worst sentence in the English language.
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There are clear reasons why Vando should start. I would argue that it should be situational and they should start either Vando or Rui depending on matchups, but I think the clear answer is to start Vando if we had to choose to stay consistent.
For starters, I am worried about guarding the teams best perimeter player. DLo won’t be guarding that guy and Austin is better as a chaser and disrupter rather than a physical defender. Rui and Bron aren’t quick or agile enough to guard those players either. So that would give Vando an important role.
As a bench player, Vando likely won’t be guarding the teams best perimeter player as often and will instead be defending some less explosive players which negates his role completely since he’s not a great contributor on offense.
Not a surprise, those are our 4 best players on offense. 5th starter likely depends on chemistry and what the match ups present as the preseason and RS evolves. I expect that 5th starter to change with time. Perhaps we'll start off the season with a player who later on in the season may be out of the rotation, even. It's how these things work in situations like this.
My gut says since they just extended Vanderbilt, they will likely give him a shot at starting. They likely believe in what he can do and what he did towards the end of last regular season. Same for Rui. I guess one of the 2 will be given the opportunity to be the 5th starter for the first quarter of the season.
The only concern I'd have with what I've seen/heard so far is that there may be too much "Ohh, look at the potential in this" stuff going on, vs getting down the nitty gritty and coming up with strong core lineups.
You hope the staff don't start to fall in love with potential of certain things when the ages of their top stars are what they are. This isn't a team that has 3-5 years to win. They need to take every chance they can to get a title so long as Lebron is still playing at relatively high level.
With that mind, I'd like to think they'd get a quality 9 man rotation in as early as possible. 50+wins should be a realistic goal. They should be aiming to be the Denver of this season.
I suspect there could be some back and forth on this board on what the best lineups are. However, that is what we fans do. The staff, I'd like to believe, has a strong sense of what the team will be doing and from what areas they'll be getting what.
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