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Don Draper
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| Blame AD or not, just feels like season is over at this point. If we can't get it together to beat the Rockets and Mavs in must-win situations, we'll be an easy target in the playoffs. |
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BandwagonLBJhopper
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| Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Don Draper wrote: | | Blame AD or not, just feels like season is over at this point. If we can't get it together to beat the Rockets and Mavs in must-win situations, we'll be an easy target in the playoffs. |
Depends. If LBJ comes back looking healthy it all fits much better.
Without him clearly AD is not that guy. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| BandwagonLBJhopper wrote: | | Don Draper wrote: | | Blame AD or not, just feels like season is over at this point. If we can't get it together to beat the Rockets and Mavs in must-win situations, we'll be an easy target in the playoffs. |
Depends. If LBJ comes back looking healthy it all fits much better.
Without him clearly AD is not that guy. |
AD had to be "that guy" for us or we wouldn't be within striking distance of the 6th seed. 40 seconds of bad play doesn't change that. LeBron wasn't there to try to carry us, AD did.
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BadGuy
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| Honestly played like a clueless (bleep) in the last, critical plays. You can tell by LeBron's face that he's amazed at the ability of AD to be great at times and absolutely horrible at other times. Seems like AD's issues are all mental, and, if he hasn't figured it out by now, he may never do so. |
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wolfpaclaker
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:28 am Post subject: |
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| Don Draper wrote: | | Blame AD or not, just feels like season is over at this point. If we can't get it together to beat the Rockets and Mavs in must-win situations, we'll be an easy target in the playoffs. |
The regular season is a grind. It's a marathon. How many games have we seen this team play with some intense fire and passion (New Orleans game recently) and AD play like a monster.
The thing is at some point, it comes down to also what you are doing strategically and what your team level is. Having that extra motor and gear is great, but in the end there's no way NBA teams with their schedules are going to be playing each game with the same intensity and level.
I think they're actually doing ok. Since Lebron went down, the team is 5-5. I think Russell missed some of those games, too. If you told me that 10 games ago, I'd have taken it.
While we had some really exciting moments, I do believe there's been this false expectation that this team is good enough to win a title (with Lebron). I think this team is similar to the team we had pre-WB trade, but still a little less well coached and a little less well put together. It is still considerably less than the team we had in 19-20. The only real advantage I see in this team is that we've never had a 3rd option as good as DLO in the AD/Bron era, something we can't really take advantage of until Lebron comes back. |
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LakerLand247
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| And this is why it was a bad decision to have sat AD against Houston. We needed to win that game against Houston to build some cushion but now we slip further down the ladder. This season is just not meant to be. |
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TMG
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| BadGuy wrote: | | Honestly played like a clueless (bleep) in the last, critical plays. You can tell by LeBron's face that he's amazed at the ability of AD to be great at times and absolutely horrible at other times. Seems like AD's issues are all mental, and, if he hasn't figured it out by now, he may never do so. |
He just cant be the lead guy is all. |
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PayasoLoco
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| I apologize to Giannis,Jokic, Joel for ever comparing AD to them. They are clearly a tier above him |
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ContagiousInspiration
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If our star player can be this careless in A Huge game what is there to even look forward to?
Depressing Loss.
Don't care who we play next
Playing like you're mentally challenged ruins the game for the fans too
I was already pissed off by AD's body language standing around pouting and "sulking". Don't (bleep) sulk in front of your team while the game is live...go do that with your therapist
That stupid (bleep) foul is the end of our season.
Can we get some posters made of him standing there looking (bleep) clueless after he ran into the shooter? |
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PayasoLoco
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | | Don Draper wrote: | | Blame AD or not, just feels like season is over at this point. If we can't get it together to beat the Rockets and Mavs in must-win situations, we'll be an easy target in the playoffs. |
The regular season is a grind. It's a marathon. How many games have we seen this team play with some intense fire and passion (New Orleans game recently) and AD play like a monster.
The thing is at some point, it comes down to also what you are doing strategically and what your team level is. Having that extra motor and gear is great, but in the end there's no way NBA teams with their schedules are going to be playing each game with the same intensity and level.
I think they're actually doing ok. Since Lebron went down, the team is 5-5. I think Russell missed some of those games, too. If you told me that 10 games ago, I'd have taken it.
While we had some really exciting moments, I do believe there's been this false expectation that this team is good enough to win a title (with Lebron). I think this team is similar to the team we had pre-WB trade, but still a little less well coached and a little less well put together. It is still considerably less than the team we had in 19-20. The only real advantage I see in this team is that we've never had a 3rd option as good as DLO in the AD/Bron era, something we can't really take advantage of until Lebron comes back. |
3 of those losses: 1) Knicks who were without their best player at home while Knicks playing 2nd of back to back 2)worst team in the league 3) mavs without their best player at home. Any playoff team would have won 2/3 of these |
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Bron2AD
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We can’t trust this guy to bring it every night. So hot and cold
Knicks played like đź’©
Pelicans playef like up top 5
Dallas played like đź’©
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Halflife
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:38 am Post subject: |
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welp. the good thing is that he and Kyrie looked chummy. If we are stuck with AD another year maybe Kyrie comes at a decent cost.
This game wasn't all about AD. Both teams had stars out. Mavs have a better shooter to complement Kyrie than we do and he came through.
Everyone lost so we still have our destiny in our hands.
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MJST
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | If our star player can be this careless in A Huge game what is there to even look forward to?
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Him not being careless in others, like he was when he carried us into the play-in and within striking distance of the 6th seed without LeBron?
Or does everyone decide to collectively forget when they decide to panic while Kobe shakes his head and says "Soft" at how some Lakers fans are.
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ContagiousInspiration
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | If our star player can be this careless in A Huge game what is there to even look forward to?
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Him not being careless in others, like he was when he carried us into the play-in and within striking distance of the 6th seed without LeBron?
Or does everyone decide to collectively forget when they decide to panic while Kobe shakes his head and says "Soft" at how some Lakers fans are. |
He didn't even play the last game and helped us lose this one too
Maybe he didn't have enough time to prepare?
He looked like he was upset all game long that kyrie wasn't a Laker
Hopefully I can forget about it all and try to be optimistic. |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | If our star player can be this careless in A Huge game what is there to even look forward to?
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Him not being careless in others, like he was when he carried us into the play-in and within striking distance of the 6th seed without LeBron?
Or does everyone decide to collectively forget when they decide to panic while Kobe shakes his head and says "Soft" at how some Lakers fans are. |
Played only 45 games out of 71 and disappeares in 30% of the games he played
Lol at he carried us |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | AD's inability to make clutch free throws cost the Lakers wins against Philly, Boston and now Dallas.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | BandwagonLBJhopper wrote: | | Don Draper wrote: | | Blame AD or not, just feels like season is over at this point. If we can't get it together to beat the Rockets and Mavs in must-win situations, we'll be an easy target in the playoffs. |
Depends. If LBJ comes back looking healthy it all fits much better.
Without him clearly AD is not that guy. |
AD had to be "that guy" for us or we wouldn't be within striking distance of the 6th seed. 40 seconds of bad play doesn't change that. LeBron wasn't there to try to carry us, AD did. |
Lebron has played more games this season than AD. AD missed over a month in the middle of the season and Lebron kept this team afloat with a significantly worse roster.
The Lakers are 22-23 with AD and 24-23 with Lebron. |
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dont_be_a_wuss
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Quote: | AD's inability to make clutch free throws cost the Lakers wins against Philly, Boston and now Dallas.
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Kam brothers on their podcast broke down ADs clutch game FT percentage. In the last 5 minutes of close games he shoots 69%. In the last 3 minutes of close games he shoots around 55%. In the last minute of close games he shoots 47% from the free throw line. |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Quote: | AD's inability to make clutch free throws cost the Lakers wins against Philly, Boston and now Dallas.
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Kam brothers on their podcast broke down ADs clutch game FT percentage. In the last 5 minutes of close games he shoots 69%. In the last 3 minutes of close games he shoots around 55%. In the last minute of close games he shoots 47% from the free throw line. |
So that’s worse than brick?
If you watch the play, I think it was drawn for him. DS was used as a decoy again going to back court. Imagine Phil drew a play for Shaq to get the ball in FT situation, lol
Please take notes Ham!!!! |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | BandwagonLBJhopper wrote: | | Don Draper wrote: | | Blame AD or not, just feels like season is over at this point. If we can't get it together to beat the Rockets and Mavs in must-win situations, we'll be an easy target in the playoffs. |
Depends. If LBJ comes back looking healthy it all fits much better.
Without him clearly AD is not that guy. |
AD had to be "that guy" for us or we wouldn't be within striking distance of the 6th seed. 40 seconds of bad play doesn't change that. LeBron wasn't there to try to carry us, AD did. |
They are the 10 seed, not within striking distance of the 6 seed, we must be watching different leagues.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Quote: | AD's inability to make clutch free throws cost the Lakers wins against Philly, Boston and now Dallas.
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He also made Gobert his **** when we played Minnesota he didn’t bring any desire in that game despite the 38 points, Gobert looked like a all star big in that game, if he doesn’t start leading this team, shut LeBron down and look to trade AD in the summer |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Quote: | AD's inability to make clutch free throws cost the Lakers wins against Philly, Boston and now Dallas.
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He also made Gobert his **** when we played Minnesota he didn’t bring any desire in that game despite the 38 points, Gobert looked like a all star big in that game, if he doesn’t start leading this team, shut LeBron down and look to trade AD in the summer |
Can we trade LeGM and Klutch Too? Becuase if you dont you will be seeing Draymond Green and Kyrie maybe in the expense of everyone (Reaves/Vando/Dlo/Wenyen+ picks) that just came over....id rather have what we have and dump LeEM and Klutch. |
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TMG
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Watching Jokic punish Knicks for putting Hartenstein pisses me off. No reason AD couldn't have done that. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Quote: | AD's inability to make clutch free throws cost the Lakers wins against Philly, Boston and now Dallas.
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Kam brothers on their podcast broke down ADs clutch game FT percentage. In the last 5 minutes of close games he shoots 69%. In the last 3 minutes of close games he shoots around 55%. In the last minute of close games he shoots 47% from the free throw line. |
So that’s worse than brick?
If you watch the play, I think it was drawn for him. DS was used as a decoy again going to back court. Imagine Phil drew a play for Shaq to get the ball in FT situation, lol
Please take notes Ham!!!! |
Worse than Shaq |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Quote: | AD's inability to make clutch free throws cost the Lakers wins against Philly, Boston and now Dallas.
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He also made Gobert his **** when we played Minnesota he didn’t bring any desire in that game despite the 38 points, Gobert looked like a all star big in that game, if he doesn’t start leading this team, shut LeBron down and look to trade AD in the summer |
Can we trade LeGM and Klutch Too? Becuase if you dont you will be seeing Draymond Green and Kyrie maybe in the expense of everyone (Reaves/Vando/Dlo/Wenyen+ picks) that just came over....id rather have what we have and dump LeEM and Klutch. |
Eh that's just ur assumption which is incorrect |
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