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| mad55557777 wrote: | Anthony Davis last 5 games against 4x DPOY Rudy Gobert
38 pts on 63 TS% (3-3-23)
38 pts on 65 TS% (3-31-23)
31 pts on 65 TS% (12-21-23)
33 pts on 77 TS% (12-30-23)
36 pts on 61 TS% (Today!) |
Gobert having 4 DPOY trophies is one of the greatest NBA travesties.
Monster game by AD, loved the fire. |
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danzag
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Gobert is BBQ Chicken
AD on the way |
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Kobetan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| What Gobert is to AD, was like what Nash was to Kobe |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| Always liked AD |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| This game added a minute to AD'S career highlight reel. You had everything here. Swatting shots, making passes, nailing jumpers, offensive rebounds and dunks. Yelling in antmans face after an and 1. Noice |
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Denny_Russo
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Would be incredible if he won DPOY at 32. Seems like he was robbed a few years. Last season they would have won 10 games without him in the middle.
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lakersfever714
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If AD and Lebron were fully healthy for the playoffs, then anything short of a championship would be an underachievement. Vogel, who's viewed as an average HC since nobody's hiring him, did it. JJ should be able to do the same if JJ is considered above average.
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dcarter4kobe
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For AD to be a true contender for DPOY this team needs to a top 8-ish defensive team (very hard to do with the other 4 starters)
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Nobody
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | For AD to be a true contender for DPOY this team needs to a top 8-ish defensive team (very hard to do with the other 4 starters) |
I would tend to agree, but the voters don't seem to care about team defensive rankings too much. Wenbanyama finished 2nd last year while the Spurs were 22nd in DRtg |
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The media cares about the narrative. If you make them talk about you, you get the votes. If the Lakers are a top team in the league (Top 5) and make noise that AD should be defensive player of the year that it becomes a talking point on ESPN, then that will be what matters the most in giving it traction.
They don't care about real statistics nowadays over narratives. Kendrick freaking Perkins implying Jokic gets MVP despite not being a high scorer because he's white caused them to pivot 180 and give it to Embiid instead when statistically Jokic was better than him in all the advanced stats.
So yeah they value narrative over numbers. If the Lakers are a Top 5 team and make enough noise that AD should be defensive player of the year, it will be come a conversation and narrative.
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ducasse
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | For AD to be a true contender for DPOY this team needs to a top 8-ish defensive team (very hard to do with the other 4 starters) |
Greg Anthony said on NBA TV tonight "I don't care what anyone says, Anthony Davis is the best defensive player in the league and it's not close." |
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Denny_Russo
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| ducasse wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | For AD to be a true contender for DPOY this team needs to a top 8-ish defensive team (very hard to do with the other 4 starters) |
Greg Anthony said on NBA TV tonight "I don't care what anyone says, Anthony Davis is the best defensive player in the league and it's not close." |
It's true lol. The voting process sucks, and the criteria needs to change. The analysts are just a bunch of casuals who don't understand how terrible the Lakers would be without AD. They win 10 games without him last season.
The funny thing is Minny still wins 50 without Gobert. You take him out in some instances, and they are actually better, although I won't deny that he's one of the best defensive floor raisers in the game.
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I’m ready for a DPOY/finals MVP AD
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| LeBron takes a back seat will do wonders for AD, and we are seeing it the first 2 games. Offense no longer runs thru LeBron iso, ball movement has been beautiful, and the chemistry between AD and Reeves is amazing. Elephant in the room is how long will a healthy AD last? |
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levon
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | LeBron takes a back seat will do wonders for AD, and we are seeing it the first 2 games. Offense no longer runs thru LeBron iso, ball movement has been beautiful, and the chemistry between AD and Reeves is amazing. Elephant in the room is how long will a healthy AD last? |
Health is my main concern. He's doing a lot of lateral things and hitting the ground hard. I feel like two way superstar bigs like Giannis and Embiid get injured more often |
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danzag
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| AD ON THE WAY |
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| levon wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | LeBron takes a back seat will do wonders for AD, and we are seeing it the first 2 games. Offense no longer runs thru LeBron iso, ball movement has been beautiful, and the chemistry between AD and Reeves is amazing. Elephant in the room is how long will a healthy AD last? |
Health is my main concern. He's doing a lot of lateral things and hitting the ground hard. I feel like two way superstar bigs like Giannis and Embiid get injured more often |
Giannis is pretty durable though. Not counting the two shortened seasons (Covid and the season after) he's averaged 73 games in 9 seasons. Even during those shortened seasons, he played in 124 out of 145 games. Dude isn't AC Green but he's probably one of the most durable superstars by today's standards.
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | levon wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | LeBron takes a back seat will do wonders for AD, and we are seeing it the first 2 games. Offense no longer runs thru LeBron iso, ball movement has been beautiful, and the chemistry between AD and Reeves is amazing. Elephant in the room is how long will a healthy AD last? |
Health is my main concern. He's doing a lot of lateral things and hitting the ground hard. I feel like two way superstar bigs like Giannis and Embiid get injured more often |
Giannis is pretty durable though. Not counting the two shortened seasons (Covid and the season after) he's averaged 73 games in 9 seasons. Even during those shortened seasons, he played in 124 out of 145 games. Dude isn't AC Green but he's probably one of the most durable superstars by today's standards. |
He's almost always injured by the time the playoffs roll around. |
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tox
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| crazy he puts up 31/9 and nary a peep |
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danzag
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| Revenge season |
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Props to AD to start the season. Clearly he is sick and tired of the street clothes and DPOY disrespect.
3/3 on the year. He won’t sustain that but just be this AD for 85% of season. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| If Lakers win around 55 games and AD is putting up 28ppg/12reb/2blks he will win MVP |
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Denny_Russo
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DPOY, MVP, 1st team offense, 1st team defense.
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AD being the best Defensive Player in the league whom also puts up 26-30 points a game shows how bunk the "But he needs to rest on defense to save himself for offense.." argument analysts have been giving players for the past decade is.
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