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Denny_Russo
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| BILBJH wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Gave up too much for him. |
I mean if we had Hart right now we'd be wrecking teams. He fixes so many of our issues at the G spot. |
This guy will never understand it's not the fact that we acquired AD that's the problem.
It's that we traded away valuable pieces that would have complemented him.
AD can't win by himself and by trading half the team and picks we put him into this position now that Bron is old.
The main reason we won the title is because two Hall of Fame players fell into our laps at the minimum.
If we don't have Dwight and Rondo, we don't win the title.
If we had two Hall of Famers this year at the minimum, we'd be in a lot better shape right now. |
That's pretty much the difference between the Warriors and Lakers right now. Warriors stayed afloat when Curry got hurt because they held on to some of their assets, drafted well and then added Hield. Teams with depth will always have a chance at contention.
Lakers just needed to invest in 2-3 assets. The bar was so low and Rob flubbed it. Even a guy like Mo Wagner could have given us a solid 15-20 minutes off the bench to spell AD.
Now AD has to play 36+ minutes a game just for the Lakers to have a chance. That's not how you build a team.
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dcarter4kobe
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AD for sure is not making it through the season carrying this load.
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lakersfan8
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| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Gave up too much for him. |
I mean if we had Hart right now we'd be wrecking teams. He fixes so many of our issues at the G spot. |
This guy will never understand it's not the fact that we acquired AD that's the problem.
It's that we traded away valuable pieces that would have complemented him.
AD can't win by himself and by trading half the team and picks we put him into this position now that Bron is old.
The main reason we won the title is because two Hall of Fame players fell into our laps at the minimum.
If we don't have Dwight and Rondo, we don't win the title.
If we had two Hall of Famers this year at the minimum, we'd be in a lot better shape right now. |
That's pretty much the difference between the Warriors and Lakers right now. Warriors stayed afloat when Curry got hurt because they held on to some of their assets, drafted well and then added Hield. Teams with depth will always have a chance at contention.
Lakers just needed to invest in 2-3 assets. The bar was so low and Rob flubbed it. Even a guy like Mo Wagner could have given us a solid 15-20 minutes off the bench to spell AD.
Now AD has to play 36+ minutes a game just for the Lakers to have a chance. That's not how you build a team. |
The lakers were trying to dump their asset in order to create cap space to sign max free agents. Very amateur |
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Denny_Russo
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| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Gave up too much for him. |
I mean if we had Hart right now we'd be wrecking teams. He fixes so many of our issues at the G spot. |
This guy will never understand it's not the fact that we acquired AD that's the problem.
It's that we traded away valuable pieces that would have complemented him.
AD can't win by himself and by trading half the team and picks we put him into this position now that Bron is old.
The main reason we won the title is because two Hall of Fame players fell into our laps at the minimum.
If we don't have Dwight and Rondo, we don't win the title.
If we had two Hall of Famers this year at the minimum, we'd be in a lot better shape right now. |
That's pretty much the difference between the Warriors and Lakers right now. Warriors stayed afloat when Curry got hurt because they held on to some of their assets, drafted well and then added Hield. Teams with depth will always have a chance at contention.
Lakers just needed to invest in 2-3 assets. The bar was so low and Rob flubbed it. Even a guy like Mo Wagner could have given us a solid 15-20 minutes off the bench to spell AD.
Now AD has to play 36+ minutes a game just for the Lakers to have a chance. That's not how you build a team. |
The lakers were trying to dump their asset in order to create cap space to sign max free agents. Very amateur |
Would have made sense 20 years ago.
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manlisten
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Pelicans were ready to give AD away for free since nobody wanted him. Rob should've offered a 2nd round pick and called it a day.
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AD got a case of that day flu tonight š
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| Please for the love of god AD just help this team out and ask out. We'll get a haul. Please just ask out for (bleep) sake. |
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It is, my wife and son have both suffered from it. Props to AD for trying to play through it.
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| Halflife wrote: | | ADs injury will more than likely nag him all year. Plantar fasciitis is a pain |
And we all now how low of a pain threshold AD has. Last year was Godās gift to AD and lakers. He was able to play basically the entire season, odds of repeating that is extremely small. Law of the average will catch up. |
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| Quote: | Mike Trudell @LakersReporter
AD (31P, 4B) on his foot: āIt hurts, definitely bothering me, but Iāll figure it out. Getting it loose enough to go out there and play, and try to manage it throughout the course of the game so it doesnāt tighten up. It felt good for the most part ā¦ off days are the most crucial
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Browh, they schemin to kill you my guy. They doing you dirty. They gave you 2 1way vet min bigs, a two-way player needing to demonstrate that they physically fit to play and turnstiles up & down the roster. You gotta lead team defense, they going to also run the offense thru you, oh and you gotta play the most minutes. Then they wonder why you canāt stay healthy, when they the ones authoring the narrative. Yeahā¦this is gonna end well  #ADonthewayā¦totheIR
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I've been dealing with plantar fasciitis too. I'm a runner and it's pretty common. I took a ~1 month break from running and it literally did nothing. Just walking around NYC in my shoes (which I think are the culprit) meant my foot didn't heal. I'm back in SoCal, and I've been walking less, but I've also been using a massage ball to really work my foot and it's 90% better in about a week.
I'm not sure how bad AD's is, but it might be worth taking some time off and just getting it under control. It is ultimately a pain tolerance thing, but I found myself walking in weird ways to avoid the pain. Fine for a normie like me but for AD, any subconscious changes to avoid pain can lead to an injury elsewhere. |
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manlisten
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | | Quote: | Mike Trudell @LakersReporter
AD (31P, 4B) on his foot: āIt hurts, definitely bothering me, but Iāll figure it out. Getting it loose enough to go out there and play, and try to manage it throughout the course of the game so it doesnāt tighten up. It felt good for the most part ā¦ off days are the most crucial
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Browh, they schemin to kill you my guy. They doing you dirty. They gave you 2 1way vet min bigs, a two-way player needing to demonstrate that they physically fit to play and turnstiles up & down the roster. You gotta lead team defense, they going to also run the offense thru you, oh and you gotta play the most minutes. Then they wonder why you canāt stay healthy, when they the ones authoring the narrative. Yeahā¦this is gonna end well #ADonthewayā¦totheIR |
He hurt his foot during the summer playing on a stacked team with Bam and Embiid.
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Man, listen to the player going thru this before making such a tone deaf statement.
AD has said numerous times now how he needs a frontline companion to help burden that load. Before the Olympics, how many seasonS has dude shouldered exclusively that center role in spite of his numerous requests to our management to do otherwise? They been knowing about this but quite literally have given him the bare minimum to work with. They too should probably listen to their foundational player. But nope, his many requests just keep falling on deaf ears. #FOh
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tox
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| It's criminal they haven't signed another center yet, think of how good of a foot massage ValanÄiÅ«nas could give AD |
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manlisten
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | Man, listen to the player going thru this before making such a tone deaf statement.
AD has said numerous times now how he needs a frontline companion to help burden that load. Before the Olympics, how many seasonS has dude shouldered exclusively that center role in spite of his numerous requests to our management to do otherwise? They been knowing about this but quite literally have given him the bare minimum to work with. They too should probably listen to their foundational player. But nope, his many requests just keep falling on deaf ears. #FOh
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I'm going by what AD said himself which is that he's been dealing with it since the summer. Ironic that you didn't listen to the player in that case. Playing with Bam and Embiid didn't prevent his foot from getting injured. You've made numerous arguments that have been disproven and you repeat yourself over and over on this topic. You also wanted vet min bigs like Bamba and Jock Landale but criticize the front office for doing the same thing.
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^Cool story bruh. No wonder you a fan of Rob.
Anywho, this is what AD actually saidā¦
| Quote: | "I've been managing it since this summer, honestly, and my goal for every game is to be on the floor," Davis explained after the loss to Detroit, per ESPN's Dave McMenamin. "And I just kind of landed directly on the spot that's been killing me. So, we'll figure it out."
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Managing does not me initially injured. But you aināt going to listen. Keep on telling yourself stories bruh.
| tox wrote: | | It's criminal they haven't signed another center yet, think of how good of a foot massage ValanÄiÅ«nas could give AD |
Val for sure would be an upgrade than what we have now. But Iād really want a boy thatās fully capable & recognized as a legit rim protector. And if that type of player is unattainable, bringing in just some more perimeter resistance among our current turnstiles would limit the amount of times AD has to meet the opps at the rim.
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Bring Marc Gasol out of retirement. Do something to help him. This management blows.
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | ^Cool story bruh. No wonder you a fan of Rob.
Anywho, this is what AD actually saidā¦
| Quote: | "I've been managing it since this summer, honestly, and my goal for every game is to be on the floor," Davis explained after the loss to Detroit, per ESPN's Dave McMenamin. "And I just kind of landed directly on the spot that's been killing me. So, we'll figure it out."
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Managing does not me initially injured. But you aināt going to listen. Keep on telling yourself stories bruh.
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So managing an injury means getting injured in April and not doing anything about it until August?
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^Troll me once, shame on youā¦troll me twice, then thatās worth a bird from my hand šš¼ and a second from Bush
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At least I think thatās how it goesā¦but Iām certain I know how this convo will go if we keep at it. So Iāll just take Shams story rather than whatever sham of a story you trying to weave and Iāll keep it moving āš¼
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | ^Troll me once, shame on youā¦troll me twice, then thatās worth a bird from my hand šš¼ and a second from Bush
https://media1.tenor.com/m/wz0pWiUWztsAAAAC/george-bush-middle-finger.gif
At least I think thatās how it goesā¦but Iām certain I know how this convo will go if we keep at it. So Iāll just take Shams story rather than whatever sham of a story you trying to weave and Iāll keep it moving āš¼ |
Teach Rob how to get Poetl, Kessler, Jonas, one of these big white dudes to dance with AD
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Time for AD to start wearing some protective eye glasses.
Never seen a player gets poke in the eye so much. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | Time for AD to start wearing some protective eye glasses.
Never seen a player gets poke in the eye so much. |
Perhaps it's because he really challenges a lot of shots. So those flailing arms and fingers are bound to hit him. 
Hope he's not out for too long. |
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He's gonna do permanent damage to his eyes if he doesn't wear some kind of protective goggles. F your contacts.
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