Wow! I never thought about that. Insane! That’s like $75,000 per basket?
Go Lakers!
Factoring in for more long postseason runs then this extent is more palatable.....
55-60 regular season games
+15-25 playoff games
~80 games on average of 20/10/2 level production is what AD will be compensated for barring season ending injury.
= $60m per season's worth of production
Yep! Totally worth the price of ADmi$$ion, as long as you get dude to the postseason with enough juice.
Looking at it another way, just like Austin choosing not up poison the well in entertaining offers from SA/Htown, AD just like waiving his trade kicker in coming here, also didn’t fully realize his true earning potential….instead choosing to re-up for less instead of playing the waiting game to earn more.
Had he played out this season and exercised his ETO to become a UFA this coming summer, he could have potentially made up to 307m over a 5yr max deal in new money instead of the potential 230m he stands to make now after this season.
2023/24: 40.6m (plays out the year before activating ETO to become a UFA for the 2024 offseason
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2024/25: 52.4m (after exercising ETO & earning 35% max off a potential 149.6m salary cap reflective of a max 10% increase)
2025/26: 56.5m (8% annual bird increases over life of 5yr max contract)
2026/27: 61.1m
2027/28: 66m
2028/29: 71.2m
= 5yr / 307.2m bird max deal; where he makes 70m+ as a 36y/o in the last year of his deal _________________ Not familiar with the salary cap/CBA rules & how it impacts our Lakers?
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Looking at it another way, just like Austin choosing not up poison the well in entertaining offers from SA/Htown, AD just like waiving his trade kicker in coming here, also didn’t fully realize his true earning potential….instead choosing to re-up for less instead of playing the waiting game to earn more.
I don't know that Austin wouldn't entertain other offers. There were reports that San Antonio and Houston were considering giving him bigger offers but were scared off by the Lakers promise to match. As far as I know, our offer was the biggest Austin actually got, and I never heard he wouldn't listen to other offers.
Davis did waive his trade kicker. That was probably in hopes of creating enough cap space to land another big name free agent to play with, which didn't happen. He took the bird-in-the-hand 3-year extension rather than wait for the longer extension. I get that; among other things, it shifts the injury risk from himself to the Lakers.
Too bad, but expected.
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Hasnt proven to be a #1 and we don't have a #1.
I don’t understand why people still don’t get this
It’s not just about the money being paid out to the player who do you get to replace him?
We’re not gonna be picking in the lottery next year. LeBron‘s not getting any younger. There are no young free agents on their way here because NBA teams don’t let them go.
You pay your stars look Anthony Davis is a star Biggs get hurt more often than smaller players to not pay him would be ridiculous. It’s not your money.
No one is boohooing it. Just posting reality. Funny people clowned the Jaylen max, yet praise this. Without the bubble he hasn’t been good enough to get us back. Let’s see what we do this year to determine if last year was a fluke. The shame with all of those games missed. Only a handful were load management.
We will have a fun regular season though and that’s good.
So the last year was a fluke and the bubble was also? Lol. Stop trolling. You are already banned from the Lebron thread
Its called bubble for a reason. Last year may not have been a fluke. If we don't get to WCF this year it may have been. On paper we are marginally better. We played one non dysfunctional team and got swept. Yes everything possible broke our way . Easy schedule, injured teams, weird year.
It’s ok we disagree.
Halflife, you obviously hate Lebron and Davis, who do you like?
Its called bubble for a reason. Last year may not have been a fluke. If we don't get to WCF this year it may have been.
The championship season was called a bubble because players were put in a protected environment (a bubble) because of covid-19. "Bubble" is simply a description of the environment the playoffs occurred in, not a label that denotes the outcome of those playoffs constitutes a fluke.
Whether being in a bubble made winning a ring easier, harder, or had a neutral impact is a matter of conjecture. I have no opinion on that myself. I figure all players can do is play the team they are assigned to play. If they win, they win. If they lose, they lose. A ring is a ring is a ring. Attempts to minimize a ring, in my experience, are typically agenda-driven, are typically boring, and typically become moot over time, since at a certain point the topic gets drained of its emotion.
Last season, we reached the WCF. How we do this year won't change that, just as the 2020 championship will always be a championship whether or not Lebron and AD win another as Lakers. You don't have to win a second ring to validate the first ring. The first ring validates itself in the winning, no matter the circumstances. We don't have to get to the WCF this year to validate last year.
As I said, everything else is just agenda, and fewer and fewer people care about the agenda as time passes. But the banner will always hang as long as the NBA exists.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:24 pm Post subject:
Fluke is a bad term to use, freaky would be more accurate. There has never been and likely never will be a season like that. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Too bad, but expected.
62
36
40
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games player per year. now add the new and improved "Every other game davis"
Hasnt proven to be a #1 and we don't have a #1.
I don’t understand why people still don’t get this
It’s not just about the money being paid out to the player who do you get to replace him?
We’re not gonna be picking in the lottery next year. LeBron‘s not getting any younger. There are no young free agents on their way here because NBA teams don’t let them go.
You pay your stars look Anthony Davis is a star Biggs get hurt more often than smaller players to not pay him would be ridiculous. It’s not your money.
No one is boohooing it. Just posting reality. Funny people clowned the Jaylen max, yet praise this. Without the bubble he hasn’t been good enough to get us back. Let’s see what we do this year to determine if last year was a fluke. The shame with all of those games missed. Only a handful were load management.
We will have a fun regular season though and that’s good.
You are really an enigma to me this last year we were literally one series of making it back. Anthony Davis playing hurt mind. You was a huge reason for that. They were basically playing for their playoff lives since the trade deadline. They just ran out of gas because they couldn’t afford to lose games to get there.
Looking at it another way, just like Austin choosing not up poison the well in entertaining offers from SA/Htown, AD just like waiving his trade kicker in coming here, also didn’t fully realize his true earning potential….instead choosing to re-up for less instead of playing the waiting game to earn more.
I don't know that Austin wouldn't entertain other offers. There were reports that San Antonio and Houston were considering giving him bigger offers but were scared off by the Lakers promise to match. As far as I know, our offer was the biggest Austin actually got, and I never heard he wouldn't listen to other offers.
Davis did waive his trade kicker. That was probably in hopes of creating enough cap space to land another big name free agent to play with, which didn't happen. He took the bird-in-the-hand 3-year extension rather than wait for the longer extension. I get that; among other things, it shifts the injury risk from himself to the Lakers.
Maybe my recollection of it involves more rainbows & butterflies, but Austin seems to be the type of dude to jump at the first best offer by us, rather than wait it out and leverage us with other offers in the market place.
Let’s put it this way, you put another player in Reave’s position this summer and it’s quite possible the Lakers have a poison pill deal on their books after hesitantly matching. I guess we’ll find out soon with MaxC during 2024 free agency.
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Lakers guard Austin Reaves recently told All The Smoke on Showtime that the Rockets and Spurs were possibilities before he re-signed with the Lakers. The Spurs considered offering Reaves a restricted free agency sheet worth $21 million per season, league sources told HoopsHype. Ultimately, however, the Spurs were scared off by the widespread belief that the Lakers would match any offer sheet for Reaves and chose to preserve cap space as a salary dump destination for future draft pick compensation. The Rockets were also closely monitoring Reaves’ situation because they were prepared to make a big offer sheet if Fred VanVleet didn’t sign with them, sources said.
So dude was potentially looking at a 4yr/84m offer sheet and had he done so and we matched, yr 3 & yr 4 of that poison pill would have had an annual cap hit of about 29m & 30m respectively. _________________ Not familiar with the salary cap/CBA rules & how it impacts our Lakers?
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One of the players Hart was referring to in terms of getting a new deal this summer was Los Angeles Lakers guard Austin Reaves, who signed a four-year, $54 million deal as a restricted free agent last month.
Reaves, 25, said his goal was always to return to the team that brought him in as an undrafted free agent two years ago, and for whom he has become a critical player.
"The whole time it was, 'Get back to L.A.,'" Reaves said. "That's where I want to be. It feels like home to me. I've said that multiple times before the free agency stuff, but it was different. I had a stressful probably 10 hours, but after that, when it was done, couldn't be more excited with the situation, with the team that we got, going back to L.A." Part of the stress, he said, was figuring out the kind of deal he would be getting. The Lakers could only offer him a four-year, $54 million contract due to Reaves being an early Bird restricted free agent, meaning one with only two years of service. Another team with cap space could have given him more money on a four-year deal, but ultimately none of them decided to sign Reaves to an offer sheet the Lakers would've been expected to match, setting up a return to Los Angeles -- the outcome Reaves was always hoping for.
"We played out every scenario," Reaves said "My agents, we talked probably literally like 10, 11 hours straight that night about what we wanted in the contract, years, whatever. "But like I said, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else."
Looking at it another way, just like Austin choosing not up poison the well in entertaining offers from SA/Htown, AD just like waiving his trade kicker in coming here, also didn’t fully realize his true earning potential….instead choosing to re-up for less instead of playing the waiting game to earn more.
I don't know that Austin wouldn't entertain other offers. There were reports that San Antonio and Houston were considering giving him bigger offers but were scared off by the Lakers promise to match. As far as I know, our offer was the biggest Austin actually got, and I never heard he wouldn't listen to other offers.
Davis did waive his trade kicker. That was probably in hopes of creating enough cap space to land another big name free agent to play with, which didn't happen. He took the bird-in-the-hand 3-year extension rather than wait for the longer extension. I get that; among other things, it shifts the injury risk from himself to the Lakers.
Maybe my recollection of it involves more rainbows & butterflies, but Austin seems to be the type of dude to jump at the first best offer by us, rather than wait it out and leverage us with other offers in the market place.
Let’s put it this way, you put another player in Reave’s position this summer and it’s quite possible the Lakers have a poison pill deal on their books after hesitantly matching. I guess we’ll find out soon with MaxC during 2024 free agency.
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Lakers guard Austin Reaves recently told All The Smoke on Showtime that the Rockets and Spurs were possibilities before he re-signed with the Lakers. The Spurs considered offering Reaves a restricted free agency sheet worth $21 million per season, league sources told HoopsHype. Ultimately, however, the Spurs were scared off by the widespread belief that the Lakers would match any offer sheet for Reaves and chose to preserve cap space as a salary dump destination for future draft pick compensation. The Rockets were also closely monitoring Reaves’ situation because they were prepared to make a big offer sheet if Fred VanVleet didn’t sign with them, sources said.
So dude was potentially looking at a 4yr/84m offer sheet and had he done so and we matched, yr 3 & yr 4 of that poison pill would have had an annual cap hit of about 29m & 30m respectively.
I'm not sure why you assume Reeves would jump at the first best offer by us. I'm sure his agents were canvassing the league and if they had gotten a poison pill offer he would have taken it. I mean, there would be no reason for him to turn down the extra money. But from all that's been reported the offer he got from us was the best one he got.
Any interviews before his free agency, he did say that he wanted to make as much money as he possibly could. After he signed with us, he said that the Lakers were always his first choice. But that doesn't mean he would have come back here at any kind of discount if someone else offered him more
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:55 pm Post subject:
^^^^
It’s amazing to me to this day that we signed Mozdeng to hit the cap floor, instead of just accumulating picks by being a salary dump destination like the Spurs are doing. We could have gotten 3-4 first rounders out of that. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
It’s amazing to me to this day that we signed Mozdeng to hit the cap floor, instead of just accumulating picks by being a salary dump destination like the Spurs are doing. We could have gotten 3-4 first rounders out of that.
Well you say that in hindsight; Jimmy was in a politically weak place in his feud with Jeannie, and the fanbase (including many on LG) had been setup to bring out their pitchforks, it's quite understandable how things unfolded the way they did.
(Oh and I'm no fan of MozDeng, it's been litigated countless times, my slam on it has always been the utterly stupid non-negotiated lengths on those contracts, that part I will never understand nor forgive)
Lakers star Anthony Davis has a player option on the final year of his three-year, $186 million extension with Los Angeles, league sources told @hoopshype.
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:49 pm Post subject:
activeverb wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:
activeverb wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:
Looking at it another way, just like Austin choosing not up poison the well in entertaining offers from SA/Htown, AD just like waiving his trade kicker in coming here, also didn’t fully realize his true earning potential….instead choosing to re-up for less instead of playing the waiting game to earn more.
I don't know that Austin wouldn't entertain other offers. There were reports that San Antonio and Houston were considering giving him bigger offers but were scared off by the Lakers promise to match. As far as I know, our offer was the biggest Austin actually got, and I never heard he wouldn't listen to other offers.
Davis did waive his trade kicker. That was probably in hopes of creating enough cap space to land another big name free agent to play with, which didn't happen. He took the bird-in-the-hand 3-year extension rather than wait for the longer extension. I get that; among other things, it shifts the injury risk from himself to the Lakers.
Maybe my recollection of it involves more rainbows & butterflies, but Austin seems to be the type of dude to jump at the first best offer by us, rather than wait it out and leverage us with other offers in the market place.
Let’s put it this way, you put another player in Reave’s position this summer and it’s quite possible the Lakers have a poison pill deal on their books after hesitantly matching. I guess we’ll find out soon with MaxC during 2024 free agency.
Quote:
Lakers guard Austin Reaves recently told All The Smoke on Showtime that the Rockets and Spurs were possibilities before he re-signed with the Lakers. The Spurs considered offering Reaves a restricted free agency sheet worth $21 million per season, league sources told HoopsHype. Ultimately, however, the Spurs were scared off by the widespread belief that the Lakers would match any offer sheet for Reaves and chose to preserve cap space as a salary dump destination for future draft pick compensation. The Rockets were also closely monitoring Reaves’ situation because they were prepared to make a big offer sheet if Fred VanVleet didn’t sign with them, sources said.
So dude was potentially looking at a 4yr/84m offer sheet and had he done so and we matched, yr 3 & yr 4 of that poison pill would have had an annual cap hit of about 29m & 30m respectively.
I'm not sure why you assume Reeves would jump at the first best offer by us. I'm sure his agents were canvassing the league and if they had gotten a poison pill offer he would have taken it. I mean, there would be no reason for him to turn down the extra money. But from all that's been reported the offer he got from us was the best one he got.
Any interviews before his free agency, he did say that he wanted to make as much money as he possibly could. After he signed with us, he said that the Lakers were always his first choice. But that doesn't mean he would have come back here at any kind of discount if someone else offered him more
Yeah, Reaves clearly wanted to stay in LA but in no world would he have turned down that massive additional $$$ imo when it was his first real payday of his life with no guarantee there will even be another contract. Then you add the fact that the Lakers very likely match the larger contract anyways.
We got extremely lucky imo and Reaves is still ecstatic i'm sure with the big contract he got but luckily no other teams threw the poison pill at him.
It’s amazing to me to this day that we signed Mozdeng to hit the cap floor, instead of just accumulating picks by being a salary dump destination like the Spurs are doing. We could have gotten 3-4 first rounders out of that.
What makes you think that. Mitch and Jim had failed at that. They had took on Lin and Hibbert before and got enough space for Boozer too. They were bad at that then and didn’t get real assets back either
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:30 pm Post subject:
Kblo247! wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
^^^^
It’s amazing to me to this day that we signed Mozdeng to hit the cap floor, instead of just accumulating picks by being a salary dump destination like the Spurs are doing. We could have gotten 3-4 first rounders out of that.
What makes you think that. Mitch and Jim had failed at that. They had took on Lin and Hibbert before and got enough space for Boozer too. They were bad at that then and didn’t get real assets back either
Yeah, there was that toxic relationship between the Owners going on where Mitch and Jim especially felt they had to win now so I don't see any situation in that time period where they would have valued draft picks higher then established veteran names they were praying would make an actual immediate impact.
I'm def. not defending many of there decisions but there were a lot of factors going on with all decisions at that time which was horrible for the entire Franchise as there was clearly a huge divide going on behind the scenes that was absolutely not being hidden well which just compounded the problems even more.
It’s amazing to me to this day that we signed Mozdeng to hit the cap floor, instead of just accumulating picks by being a salary dump destination like the Spurs are doing. We could have gotten 3-4 first rounders out of that.
What makes you think that. Mitch and Jim had failed at that. They had took on Lin and Hibbert before and got enough space for Boozer too. They were bad at that then and didn’t get real assets back either
Yeah, there was that toxic relationship between the Owners going on where Mitch and Jim especially felt they had to win now so I don't see any situation in that time period where they would have valued draft picks higher then established veteran names they were praying would make an actual immediate impact.
Jim and Mitch knew that Jeanie was looking to axe them, so they made some desperate win-now throw of the dice. They weren't in a position to build for the future, because they knew they wouldn't be in the future.
He has had a multitude of injuries during his career so far. Some more serious than others but fortunately he has never had a signifcant injury such as ACL tear or Achilles tear. In that sense he has been very lucky. Best case scenario is he misses around 15-20 games injury/rest this season and is healthy for the playoffs. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold.
Zero because even if he was fully healthy for the entire year, they would still load manage him. _________________ Lakers under Jeanie Buss: 1 championship in 10+ years. "Championships are hard."
Lakers under Dr. Buss: 1 championship every 4 years on average. "Championships are easy."
He needs to keep the fro _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
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