Official ANTHONY DAVIS Thread
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 1433, 1434, 1435 ... 1459, 1460, 1461  Next
 
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> General Basketball Discussion Reply to topic
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
wolfpaclaker
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 29 May 2002
Posts: 59693

PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:37 am    Post subject:

KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
ocho
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 56940

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:02 am    Post subject:

AD has been named to the All Defensive 1st Team.

Quote:
2023-24 NBA All-Defensive teams:

First team: Rudy Gobert, Victor Wembanyama, Bam Adebayo, Anthony Davis, Herb Jones

Second team: Alex Caruso, Jrue Holiday, Jaden McDaniels, Jalen Suggs, Derrick White

_________________
14-5-3-12
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
MJST
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 06 Jul 2014
Posts: 30607

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:05 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.


The only thing KAT does better than AD is shoot threes.

AD has him beat everywhere else offensively and defensively and especially as a two way player.
_________________
How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
mad55557777
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 25095

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:16 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
AD has been named to the All Defensive 1st Team.

Quote:
2023-24 NBA All-Defensive teams:

First team: Rudy Gobert, Victor Wembanyama, Bam Adebayo, Anthony Davis, Herb Jones

Second team: Alex Caruso, Jrue Holiday, Jaden McDaniels, Jalen Suggs, Derrick White

well deserved, and he should get all NBA second team too
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Cutheon
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 10 Jul 2009
Posts: 13010
Location: Bay Area

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:54 am    Post subject:

I think we should go back to positions. Otherwise first team will just be 5 bigs
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Bron2AD
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 01 Jun 2021
Posts: 9752

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 5:04 pm    Post subject:

Congrats ad
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
eddiejonze
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 19 Dec 2013
Posts: 7851

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Wemby, Herb Jones, Bam Adebayo all had more votes than AD!

Do fans vote for this? it can be from actual players or coaches lol...
_________________
Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
1995Lakers
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 26 Aug 2020
Posts: 7110

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:22 pm    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.


Definitely would not give the edge to KAT in anything over AD other than shooting threes just like MJST said. If you need a #1 scoring option, its still AD quite obviously over KAT and even more so in the playoffs.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Bron2AD
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 01 Jun 2021
Posts: 9752

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:19 pm    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.


I take AD all day on offense and twice on Sundays

Kat can hit 3’s but is nowhere close to AD on offensive side
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
CandyCanes
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 24 Dec 2007
Posts: 38109
Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -≥≥≥≥≥Berkeley, CA

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:49 am    Post subject:

1995Lakers wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.


Definitely would not give the edge to KAT in anything over AD other than shooting threes just like MJST said. If you need a #1 scoring option, its still AD quite obviously over KAT and even more so in the playoffs.


Imagine an AD/Gobert tandem.
_________________
Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
av3773
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 11 Dec 2011
Posts: 3911

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:55 am    Post subject:

AD is definitely better, he doesn't get enough love from the league, but when he's not play the Lakers on D are utter garbage and when he is we can play like a top defensive team....we need a coach to keep him fully engaged consistently every game
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Halflife
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 15 Aug 2015
Posts: 20900

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:58 am    Post subject:

av3773 wrote:
.we need a coach to keep him fully engaged consistently every game


we need ball handlers to keep him engaged.
_________________
Dave McMenamin on the Lebron ERA: "Underwhelming"

King of LA - https://x.com/kobehighlight/status/1935112472375214372
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
LakersRGolden
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 13 Jan 2002
Posts: 8286
Location: Lake Forest

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 8:15 am    Post subject:

We need to run actual designed plays in the 2nd half instead of ISO hero ball that freezes out everyone but the ball handler.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
coldzim
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 30 Jun 2018
Posts: 409

PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 4:23 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
2023-24 All-NBA:

2nd: Jalen Brunson, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Anthony Edwards, Kawhi Leonard






Quote:
Only player in the league to be on both All-NBA and All-Defense



Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ThePageDude
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 25 Jul 2002
Posts: 2844

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 7:27 am    Post subject:

coldzim wrote:

Quote:
Only player in the league to be on both All-NBA and All-Defense





Yup, that's fair and accurate.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
GOODRICH25
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 17 Jun 2017
Posts: 3394

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 8:01 am    Post subject:

Surprised they didnt vote some rando in instead of him, but guess no choice when hes that good and healthy
_________________
48 49 50 52 53 54 72 80 82
85 87 88 00 01 02 09 10 20

17 99 19 22 44 13 25
52 33 32 21 42 Mic.
34 8 24 16 23 3 77
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
vasashi17+
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 13 Dec 2019
Posts: 6300

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 8:22 am    Post subject:

ThePageDude wrote:
coldzim wrote:

Quote:
Only player in the league to be on both All-NBA and All-Defense





Yup, that's fair and accurate.


💯

…and it’s not outta pocket to think he probably makes first team honors in both as well as win DPoY if he actually didn’t play outta pocket. Too bad management is mismanaging the roster by not reaching deeper into their pocket$ so that they can give him more than just the minimum.

And to think they been doing it for years, even after saying this 😒

Quote:
“We want a decade of dominance out of him here, right? So we got to do what’s best for his body, and having him bang against the biggest centers in the West every night is not what’s best for his body or for our team and the franchise," Pelinka stated in response to Davis' request to play the four.

_________________
Not familiar with the salary cap/CBA rules & how it impacts our Lakers?
#GetFamiliar by CLICKING HERE!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
TDRock
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 55838
Location: LA to the Bay

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 10:33 am    Post subject:

Congrats AD
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hanging from Rafters
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 31 Jul 2018
Posts: 6813

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 12:07 pm    Post subject:

vasashi17+ wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
coldzim wrote:

Quote:
Only player in the league to be on both All-NBA and All-Defense





Yup, that's fair and accurate.


💯

…and it’s not outta pocket to think he probably makes first team honors in both as well as win DPoY if he actually didn’t play outta pocket. Too bad management is mismanaging the roster by not reaching deeper into their pocket$ so that they can give him more than just the minimum.

And to think they been doing it for years, even after saying this 😒

Quote:
“We want a decade of dominance out of him here, right? So we got to do what’s best for his body, and having him bang against the biggest centers in the West every night is not what’s best for his body or for our team and the franchise," Pelinka stated in response to Davis' request to play the four.




This quote and the other one from Rob that basically said LBJ committed to the Lakers so the Lakers should commit to him by using picks to put the best team together to compete for a ship is very disturbing because it doesn’t look like he acted on either quote.
_________________
When reasonably possible, I expect the Lakers to go after a ship like it can’t be denied. I haven’t seen a completely committed effort by the GM for the last 2 off seasons nor the last 2 trade deadlines. What is going on?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
manlisten
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 09 Jul 2004
Posts: 4497

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 7:01 am    Post subject:

Interesting that AD has played in 80% of games while being a full time center the past 2 seasons. Seems to be the best position for his durability.
_________________
It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ocho
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 56940

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 7:16 am    Post subject:

Quote:
This quote and the other one from Rob that basically said LBJ committed to the Lakers so the Lakers should commit to him by using picks to put the best team together to compete for a ship is very disturbing because it doesn’t look like he acted on either quote.


Since acquiring LeBron the Lakers have traded 6 first round picks and a swap.
_________________
14-5-3-12
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
vasashi17+
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 13 Dec 2019
Posts: 6300

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 7:19 am    Post subject:

2023 RegSzn: 43-39 (Play-in as 7 seed)
2023 PostSzn: 8-8
2024 RegSzn: 47-35 (Play-in as 7 seed)
2024 PostSzn: 1-4
Total w/AD @ fulltime C: 99-86 (53.5 win %age) w/1 in-season title

This fan....not interested!
_________________
Not familiar with the salary cap/CBA rules & how it impacts our Lakers?
#GetFamiliar by CLICKING HERE!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Kblo247!
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 05 Oct 2015
Posts: 6063

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 8:15 am    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
Interesting that AD has played in 80% of games while being a full time center the past 2 seasons. Seems to be the best position for his durability.


He also went to a sports scientist for the first time ever when he hurt his foot. So I think it’s more that than anything because whatever he got out that meeting, he’s been freakishly durable.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
LakerDYnasty72
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 4958

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:56 am    Post subject:

I should have copied the link, but on Facebook they have a "clip" of AD speaking about the Lakers decision to draft Bronny. AD is saying things that you know he would not say like: "they had no business using the 55th pick on a kid who averaged 4.5 points a game" and "he's not even an NBA player and we drafted him because he's LeBron's son".

The serious and funny side of the clip is that there's no doubt someone probably used an AI assisted means to copy his voice as close as it could, and have him say things that he certainly wouldn't say even if he thought it.

It was both funny and scary because it reflects how AI can be used to create an alternate reality for a lot of misinformed and mislead folks.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
levon
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 11 Oct 2016
Posts: 15464

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:46 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
Quote:
This quote and the other one from Rob that basically said LBJ committed to the Lakers so the Lakers should commit to him by using picks to put the best team together to compete for a ship is very disturbing because it doesn’t look like he acted on either quote.


Since acquiring LeBron the Lakers have traded 6 first round picks and a swap.

Eh, that's three firsts and the swap for AD. The Danny Green for Schroder swap does not strike me as a LeBron move at all. That leaves just the Westbrook trade and the pick to recover from it.

I bet if you did this for every other max player in the league you'd get the same count or more, and most of those players never won a title during their tenures.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> General Basketball Discussion All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 1433, 1434, 1435 ... 1459, 1460, 1461  Next
Page 1434 of 1461
Jump to:  

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum






Graphics by uberzev
© 1995-2018 LakersGround.net. All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy. Terms of Use.
LakersGround is an unofficial news source serving the fan community since 1995.
We are in no way associated with the Los Angeles Lakers or the National Basketball Association.


Powered by phpBB