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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:37 am    Post subject:

KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:02 am    Post subject:

AD has been named to the All Defensive 1st Team.

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2023-24 NBA All-Defensive teams:

First team: Rudy Gobert, Victor Wembanyama, Bam Adebayo, Anthony Davis, Herb Jones

Second team: Alex Caruso, Jrue Holiday, Jaden McDaniels, Jalen Suggs, Derrick White

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:05 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.


The only thing KAT does better than AD is shoot threes.

AD has him beat everywhere else offensively and defensively and especially as a two way player.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:16 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
AD has been named to the All Defensive 1st Team.

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2023-24 NBA All-Defensive teams:

First team: Rudy Gobert, Victor Wembanyama, Bam Adebayo, Anthony Davis, Herb Jones

Second team: Alex Caruso, Jrue Holiday, Jaden McDaniels, Jalen Suggs, Derrick White

well deserved, and he should get all NBA second team too
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 11:54 am    Post subject:

I think we should go back to positions. Otherwise first team will just be 5 bigs
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 5:04 pm    Post subject:

Congrats ad
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Wemby, Herb Jones, Bam Adebayo all had more votes than AD!

Do fans vote for this? it can be from actual players or coaches lol...
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:22 pm    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.


Definitely would not give the edge to KAT in anything over AD other than shooting threes just like MJST said. If you need a #1 scoring option, its still AD quite obviously over KAT and even more so in the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:19 pm    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.


I take AD all day on offense and twice on Sundays

Kat can hit 3’s but is nowhere close to AD on offensive side
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:49 am    Post subject:

1995Lakers wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
KAT may be more valuable than AD on offense because he can space the floor better.

But when you look at defense and all the rest, AD wins by miles as a player. It's close on offense, can give the edge to KAT because he's shown he can help his team's spacing big time. Defensively? AD by a lot.


Definitely would not give the edge to KAT in anything over AD other than shooting threes just like MJST said. If you need a #1 scoring option, its still AD quite obviously over KAT and even more so in the playoffs.


Imagine an AD/Gobert tandem.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:55 am    Post subject:

AD is definitely better, he doesn't get enough love from the league, but when he's not play the Lakers on D are utter garbage and when he is we can play like a top defensive team....we need a coach to keep him fully engaged consistently every game
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:58 am    Post subject:

av3773 wrote:
.we need a coach to keep him fully engaged consistently every game


we need ball handlers to keep him engaged.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 8:15 am    Post subject:

We need to run actual designed plays in the 2nd half instead of ISO hero ball that freezes out everyone but the ball handler.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 4:23 pm    Post subject:

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2023-24 All-NBA:

2nd: Jalen Brunson, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Anthony Edwards, Kawhi Leonard






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Only player in the league to be on both All-NBA and All-Defense



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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 7:27 am    Post subject:

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Yup, that's fair and accurate.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 8:01 am    Post subject:

Surprised they didnt vote some rando in instead of him, but guess no choice when hes that good and healthy
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 8:22 am    Post subject:

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coldzim wrote:

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Yup, that's fair and accurate.


💯

…and it’s not outta pocket to think he probably makes first team honors in both as well as win DPoY if he actually didn’t play outta pocket. Too bad management is mismanaging the roster by not reaching deeper into their pocket$ so that they can give him more than just the minimum.

And to think they been doing it for years, even after saying this 😒

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 10:33 am    Post subject:

Congrats AD
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2024 12:07 pm    Post subject:

vasashi17+ wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
coldzim wrote:

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Only player in the league to be on both All-NBA and All-Defense





Yup, that's fair and accurate.


💯

…and it’s not outta pocket to think he probably makes first team honors in both as well as win DPoY if he actually didn’t play outta pocket. Too bad management is mismanaging the roster by not reaching deeper into their pocket$ so that they can give him more than just the minimum.

And to think they been doing it for years, even after saying this 😒

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This quote and the other one from Rob that basically said LBJ committed to the Lakers so the Lakers should commit to him by using picks to put the best team together to compete for a ship is very disturbing because it doesn’t look like he acted on either quote.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 7:01 am    Post subject:

Interesting that AD has played in 80% of games while being a full time center the past 2 seasons. Seems to be the best position for his durability.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 7:16 am    Post subject:

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This quote and the other one from Rob that basically said LBJ committed to the Lakers so the Lakers should commit to him by using picks to put the best team together to compete for a ship is very disturbing because it doesn’t look like he acted on either quote.


Since acquiring LeBron the Lakers have traded 6 first round picks and a swap.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 7:19 am    Post subject:

2023 RegSzn: 43-39 (Play-in as 7 seed)
2023 PostSzn: 8-8
2024 RegSzn: 47-35 (Play-in as 7 seed)
2024 PostSzn: 1-4
Total w/AD @ fulltime C: 99-86 (53.5 win %age) w/1 in-season title

This fan....not interested!
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 8:15 am    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
Interesting that AD has played in 80% of games while being a full time center the past 2 seasons. Seems to be the best position for his durability.


He also went to a sports scientist for the first time ever when he hurt his foot. So I think it’s more that than anything because whatever he got out that meeting, he’s been freakishly durable.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:56 am    Post subject:

I should have copied the link, but on Facebook they have a "clip" of AD speaking about the Lakers decision to draft Bronny. AD is saying things that you know he would not say like: "they had no business using the 55th pick on a kid who averaged 4.5 points a game" and "he's not even an NBA player and we drafted him because he's LeBron's son".

The serious and funny side of the clip is that there's no doubt someone probably used an AI assisted means to copy his voice as close as it could, and have him say things that he certainly wouldn't say even if he thought it.

It was both funny and scary because it reflects how AI can be used to create an alternate reality for a lot of misinformed and mislead folks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:46 am    Post subject:

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This quote and the other one from Rob that basically said LBJ committed to the Lakers so the Lakers should commit to him by using picks to put the best team together to compete for a ship is very disturbing because it doesn’t look like he acted on either quote.


Since acquiring LeBron the Lakers have traded 6 first round picks and a swap.

Eh, that's three firsts and the swap for AD. The Danny Green for Schroder swap does not strike me as a LeBron move at all. That leaves just the Westbrook trade and the pick to recover from it.

I bet if you did this for every other max player in the league you'd get the same count or more, and most of those players never won a title during their tenures.
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