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| I mean they are the b team |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | | I mean they are the b team |
And he’s a B player.
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He's been talking about Lebron a lot on his podcast... I wonder if he some what regret not signing here when he had a chance.
Lebron/AD/PG13 would have been a solid defensive trio when locked in. |
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yes, that is the reality that the clippers will always face when bringing in a star. It can't feel good playing for a city that isn't really behind you, even when you are the superior team. Facts can hurt. They are just lucky Kawhi could not care less about that but they are unlucky he can't stay on the court.
Moving to the best area in sports may help them but at the end of the day, its team B. love to see it. |
He can always come back if things don't work out in Philly.  |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ksmgf wrote: | | 27 wrote: |
yes, that is the reality that the clippers will always face when bringing in a star. It can't feel good playing for a city that isn't really behind you, even when you are the superior team. Facts can hurt. They are just lucky Kawhi could not care less about that but they are unlucky he can't stay on the court.
Moving to the best area in sports may help them but at the end of the day, its team B. love to see it. |
He can always come back if things don't work out in Philly. |
Too late and too old... |
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| All 5 Clipper fans will vent their outrage when PG13 comes back to LA to play at the Intuit dome. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: |
He's been talking about Lebron a lot on his podcast... I wonder if he some what regret not signing here when he had a chance.
Lebron/AD/PG13 would have been a solid defensive trio when locked in. |
I think both Kawhi and PG should regret not joining the Lakers. But we got a chip anyway so whatever. |
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| levon wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: |
He's been talking about Lebron a lot on his podcast... I wonder if he some what regret not signing here when he had a chance.
Lebron/AD/PG13 would have been a solid defensive trio when locked in. |
I think both Kawhi and PG should regret not joining the Lakers. But we got a chip anyway so whatever. |
My guess is that PG is more regretful - Kawhi has 2 rings plus the "shine" of being The Man. PG has zero to show for his Clipper tenure except money. A TON of money, mind you, but nothing with which to cement his legacy.
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Plus knowing Jeanie's attachment to stars, Paul would have gotten his max deal. 3 maxes would have put LAL in a lot of trouble with regards to the rest of the roster and hence I think we would have seen Jeanie do what Clips wouldn't. Give George a NTC if he took less years and less annual.
Say whatever you want about Jeanie, at least she has a ring and knows how to keep her stars. Ballmer has more money and had a better situation, and yet couldn't even keep his stars. The amount the Clippers gave up for George to end up like that is a bit crazy.
Many people hate Klutch/Jeanie partnership. I'm not a big fan, but I do know this. We're not that competent/skilled to build a contender like OKC or Boston has. By partnering with klutch at least we get some success. The Clippers don't even have the ability to keep their stars and haven't even shown they are good enough to do what we did with regards to partnering up and getting some moderate level of success with stars.
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2019 to present watch.
Lakers: NBA title, NBA in league tourney, WCF, 4 playoffs.
Clippers: WCF, 5 playoffs.
I honestly think it's not even a debate anymore. The Lakers (even with all their mistakes and bad GM'ing by Pelinka) did better with AD/Bron than Clips did with Kawhi/George. |
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Also future wise:
Reaves
Knecht, Christie, JHS
2026 pick
2028 pick
2029 pick
A (bleep) load of second round picks
We're not shorted on draft assets/trade chips either. We can easily make moves or just build slowly through player development (granted we suck at this).
The Clippers?
They don't their own pick (full in control) until 2030.
They seemed to have done well this offseason with moves like DJJ, along with a lot of other mid-level players, but overall I don't think their situation is at all strong for the future. Ballmer says they needed to be below the second apron to make moves. Ok, but they don't exactly what draft picks to make those moves .... what they have is what they have. That's their core moving forward.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | levon wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: |
He's been talking about Lebron a lot on his podcast... I wonder if he some what regret not signing here when he had a chance.
Lebron/AD/PG13 would have been a solid defensive trio when locked in. |
I think both Kawhi and PG should regret not joining the Lakers. But we got a chip anyway so whatever. |
My guess is that PG is more regretful - Kawhi has 2 rings plus the "shine" of being The Man. PG has zero to show for his Clipper tenure except money. A TON of money, mind you, but nothing with which to cement his legacy. |
No doubt PG is more regretful. His dream was to play for the Lakers, one of his hometown teams. The banners, the tradition, Magic & Kareem, Kobe & Shaq, etc.,
I think both the Lakers & PG will always regret not somehow making a union happen. |
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George is the one that chose the Clippers because he himself said basically "I mean the Lakers will always be there for me, eventually."
George wants to come to the Lakers as a bucket list end of his career thing he can brag about, not because he wants the actual pressure of winning a Championship for them. When he said that during Free Agency when we were all waiting to see if he'd leave OKC, it became pretty clear where he stood.
He saw the Lakers as a "mark that off my bucket list end of my career" thing, as opposed to a "I want to go there and help them win a Championship" thing.
And look which team won the Championship since then.
If Paul George ever plays for the Lakers, it will be like a Melo situation.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| Lol at Draymond laughing at the Clippers blowing a 3-1 lead |
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | https://x.com/klutch_23/status/1816152918216642654?s=46&t=YQnZyfnx7VlfNBbYDR3Cxg |
this link needs to be stickied on every frigging page of this thread/
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| tox wrote: | | Lol at Draymond laughing at the Clippers blowing a 3-1 lead |
Because he knows if Steph wasn't injured, if Bogut never got hurt, and he never got suspended, they would have won 4-1 or 4-2. Not that it matters, they got KD after and won 2 and then won 1 without KD. At a certain point that 3-1 comeback is an outlier and not a norm. When the Lakers blew it in the Playoffs or they called Magic "Tragic", it hurt a lot less when we continued to dominate and win Championships afterwards and they didn't.
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Of course it’s like playing for the B Team. Of course, if he grew up in LA he should have figured that out a long time ago. I figured that out when I was a kid. You don’t need to be on the Clippers to figure that out.
If a player joins the Clippers they should try to embrace the role of an underdog. If they hate it and hate being less popular then perhaps go to a different team if you have the opportunity. |
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If Clippers were the B team, then Lakers have been the B+ team at best. Not an A team imo. Actually, last season we finished worse than the Clippers in the standing so if Clippers were B team, then maybe Lakers were C team. I want an A this season.
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Whatever the Over/Under is on how many games Kawhi plays this year, I'm taking the Under.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | Whatever the Over/Under is on how many games Kawhi plays this year, I'm taking the Under. |
Unless Harden comes out guns blazing to start the year Kawhi is not going to play more than 20 games. |
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| MJST wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Lol at Draymond laughing at the Clippers blowing a 3-1 lead |
Because he knows if Steph wasn't injured, if Bogut never got hurt, and he never got suspended, they would have won 4-1 or 4-2. Not that it matters, they got KD after and won 2 and then won 1 without KD. At a certain point that 3-1 comeback is an outlier and not a norm. When the Lakers blew it in the Playoffs or they called Magic "Tragic", it hurt a lot less when we continued to dominate and win Championships afterwards and they didn't. |
It’s funnier when someone try to rationalize it with the coulda shoulda woulda lol, jk VLF! But you bite the bait
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Plus knowing Jeanie's attachment to stars, Paul would have gotten his max deal. 3 maxes would have put LAL in a lot of trouble with regards to the rest of the roster and hence I think we would have seen Jeanie do what Clips wouldn't. Give George a NTC if he took less years and less annual.
Say whatever you want about Jeanie, at least she has a ring and knows how to keep her stars. Ballmer has more money and had a better situation, and yet couldn't even keep his stars. The amount the Clippers gave up for George to end up like that is a bit crazy.
Many people hate Klutch/Jeanie partnership. I'm not a big fan, but I do know this. We're not that competent/skilled to build a contender like OKC or Boston has. By partnering with klutch at least we get some success. The Clippers don't even have the ability to keep their stars and haven't even shown they are good enough to do what we did with regards to partnering up and getting some moderate level of success with stars. |
I'm trying to tell people. |
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | If Clippers were the B team, then Lakers have been the B+ team at best. Not an A team imo. Actually, last season we finished worse than the Clippers in the standing so if Clippers were B team, then maybe Lakers were C team. I want an A this season. |
Lakers are the A team in the entire league. Check yoself! |
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