Clippers made amazing signings last few years. Leonard’s signing out did all of them.
How in the world they gave the max to KL after 5 seasons instead of PG
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:11 pm Post subject:
roger_federer wrote:
Clippers made amazing signings last few years. Leonard’s signing out did all of them.
How in the world they gave the max to KL after 5 seasons instead of PG
Their Subreddit was excited after the signing too, saying they got Kawhi back on a team friendly deal.
They could have signed Jimmy Butler and/or Kyrie during the offseason when they signed Kawhi and traded for Paul George. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Clippers made amazing signings last few years. Leonard’s signing out did all of them.
How in the world they gave the max to KL after 5 seasons instead of PG
Their Subreddit was excited after the signing too, saying they got Kawhi back on a team friendly deal.
They could have signed Jimmy Butler and/or Kyrie during the offseason when they signed Kawhi and traded for Paul George.
given a chance, almost every team in the NBA would do the trade that clippers did.
Clippers made amazing signings last few years. Leonard’s signing out did all of them.
How in the world they gave the max to KL after 5 seasons instead of PG
Their Subreddit was excited after the signing too, saying they got Kawhi back on a team friendly deal.
They could have signed Jimmy Butler and/or Kyrie during the offseason when they signed Kawhi and traded for Paul George.
given a chance, almost every team in the NBA would do the trade that clippers did.
Pretty much... people like to play prophet after the fact.
I don't think it would have prevented me from making the deal, but I was genuinely worried about Kawhi's health going forward because there were reports about Kawhi having degenerative knee issues.
I was also a bigger fan of SGA than any of the Lakers' core. He was showing out a little bit as a scorer, and I was a fan of his length and athleticism as a PG.
I liked it less than the Lakers' deal at the time at the very least.
Clippers made amazing signings last few years. Leonard’s signing out did all of them.
How in the world they gave the max to KL after 5 seasons instead of PG
Their Subreddit was excited after the signing too, saying they got Kawhi back on a team friendly deal.
They could have signed Jimmy Butler and/or Kyrie during the offseason when they signed Kawhi and traded for Paul George.
given a chance, almost every team in the NBA would do the trade that clippers did.
For PG? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddd.
Milwaukee didn't get that much for Kareem. Minnesota didn't get that much for Garnett. And it aged like an over-botoxed porn queen. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:32 pm Post subject:
Dr. Laker wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
Clippers made amazing signings last few years. Leonard’s signing out did all of them.
How in the world they gave the max to KL after 5 seasons instead of PG
Their Subreddit was excited after the signing too, saying they got Kawhi back on a team friendly deal.
They could have signed Jimmy Butler and/or Kyrie during the offseason when they signed Kawhi and traded for Paul George.
given a chance, almost every team in the NBA would do the trade that clippers did.
For PG? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddd.
Milwaukee didn't get that much for Kareem. Minnesota didn't get that much for Garnett. And it aged like an over-botoxed porn queen.
Yeah, that deal with the amount of picks on top of a genuinely elite level prospect was far from just simply "a no brainer" like some here are making it out to be and especially for someone already known to be a choke artist regardless of his great regular Season play ala Harden.
The simple thought of trading for him was a no brainer once they missed out on other guys but that cost was anything but a no brainer imo.. Just like originally signing Kawhi was an absolute no brainer even with the larger then life warning signs all around him and his health but re-signing him after he's done absolutely nothing and is only getting worse and older? That was a genuinely awful move imo. The only post season he was healthy enough to really contribute? He shrunk and played just as bad or even worse then PG13 as well, a far cry from his Toronto and Spurs days to say the least.
Not a chance in hell "almost every nba team does the trade" or especially re-signing Kawhi for that matter. The Clippers only made the awful trade significantly worse at this point as well while SGA is considered a top 5 player by many. If one of our young players we traded for AD became that good we'd be hearing about it nonstop with the same people in this thread standing up for the Clippers absolutely trashing the FO of the supposed team they root for and the actual message board where all discussing this on. It's really weird how hard some cape for the Clippers on this board.. There has to be at least one decent Clippers board out there?
I recently noticed that a lot of my anti-Clipper zeal has been slipping away. They've moved out of the Lakers' arena, PG13 is gone so they are a weaker squad, Kawahi continues to be MIA... I still want them to lose each and every game against teams not soaked in putrid green, but mostly I don't care any more.
Proof of that is I didn't bother setting up the DVR to gleefully watch them get beat down like I've done in past seasons. Ah well, hopefully another team will eventually come along to be the second squad that I love most to hate.
I recently noticed that a lot of my anti-Clipper zeal has been slipping away. They've moved out of the Lakers' arena, PG13 is gone so they are a weaker squad, Kawahi continues to be MIA... I still want them to lose each and every game against teams not soaked in putrid green, but mostly I don't care any more.
Proof of that is I didn't bother setting up the DVR to gleefully watch them get beat down like I've done in past seasons. Ah well, hopefully another team will eventually come along to be the second squad that I love most to hate.
I will continue to hate them until the architect of it all, 2020 NBA Executive of the Year, Lawrence Frank, is gone. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
Clippers made amazing signings last few years. Leonard’s signing out did all of them.
How in the world they gave the max to KL after 5 seasons instead of PG
Their Subreddit was excited after the signing too, saying they got Kawhi back on a team friendly deal.
They could have signed Jimmy Butler and/or Kyrie during the offseason when they signed Kawhi and traded for Paul George.
given a chance, almost every team in the NBA would do the trade that clippers did.
Pretty much... people like to play prophet after the fact.
I would like to say I was very vocally skeptical about Kawhi's legitimancy from the get go. Just call me Prophet Drae Also all the Spurs fans are asking for apologies from everyone else in the league for how most people took Kawhi's side in the "incident"
I recently noticed that a lot of my anti-Clipper zeal has been slipping away. They've moved out of the Lakers' arena, PG13 is gone so they are a weaker squad, Kawahi continues to be MIA... I still want them to lose each and every game against teams not soaked in putrid green, but mostly I don't care any more.
Proof of that is I didn't bother setting up the DVR to gleefully watch them get beat down like I've done in past seasons. Ah well, hopefully another team will eventually come along to be the second squad that I love most to hate.
I will continue to hate them until the architect of it all, 2020 NBA Executive of the Year, Lawrence Frank, is gone.
This. I will continue to hate them as long Powell and Terence Mann are there.
I really hope the Clippers can win 40+ games. OKC gets their pick. Don't need OKC getting another high draft pick in a deep draft to add to an already stacked team. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though."
Warms my heart to see that manufactured merchant Harden cost the clippers lol.
Don’t get why he doesn’t get the heat that Russ gets. We know Russ is an inefficient chucker but at least he works. Harden just glosses over his inefficient game with “wow” step back 3s and foul chasing.
I really hope the Clippers can win 40+ games. OKC gets their pick. Don't need OKC getting another high draft pick in a deep draft to add to an already stacked team.
Eff the Clippers. They can go 0-246 for all I care. If OKC ends up with 3 HOF players for PG, so what? _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
Shelton had a relationship with Kawhi from his time at SDSU. He alleges that he was essentially the conduit for contact/tampering the Clippers had with Kawhi in the lead up to free agency. He was promised (and got) a job with the team if Kawhi signed. Also alleged the Clippers have consistently had Kawhi play when he wasn’t recovered from injuries. _________________ 14-5-3-12
Shelton had a relationship with Kawhi from his time at SDSU. He alleges that he was essentially the conduit for contact/tampering the Clippers had with Kawhi in the lead up to free agency. He was promised (and got) a job with the team if Kawhi signed. Also alleged the Clippers have consistently had Kawhi play when he wasn’t recovered from injuries.
Kawhi having a procedure done on his knee again, will miss the start of training camp.
Over/under on games played this year?
Crazy they didn’t give the max to PG and cut the loses on Kawhi instead of the other way around
Kawhi has receipts. The Jerry West tampering/bribery thing was swept under the rug, but it wasn’t made up. All sorts of shady crap went on with that organization in the acquisition and retaining of KL. He runs the Clippers in ways that Klutch/LBJ can’t even think of running the Lakers.
This always gets lost. Forget the "did they speak 20 minutes before the moratorium was lifted" stuff. The Clippers were recruiting Kawhi his entire season with the Raptors. They were sending people to his games all year. They were willing to staff his own medical team and give him all types of similar fringe benefits (houses, private planes so he could fly back and forth between LA and San Diego whenever he wanted, etc) that Jeanie wasn't willing to risk. They asked Jeanie for (bleep) part ownership of the team: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-investigated-kawhi-leonards-uncle-dennis-robertson-for-asking-for-impermissible-benefits-per-report/
"Robertson, however, reportedly "asked team officials for part ownership of the team, a private plane that would be available at all times, a house and — last but certainly not least — a guaranteed amount of off-court endorsement money that they could expect if Leonard played for their team."
These requests were repeatedly denied by the Lakers, according to Amick, which reportedly prompted Robertson to ask about the ownership stake given to Magic Johnson in 1991 after he was forced to retire due to his HIV diagnosis. That agreement was permissible by league rules. Granting Leonard a piece of the team would not be."
He's quiet so he gets a pass on all this stuff from the media. Kawhi is a talented player, but everything around him and how he has handled his career is shady as (bleep). His official (non-Uncle Dennis) agent represents no other active NBA players and is a complete ghost online. If you dig around you can find some shady stuff that the agency apparently did on the NFL side (e.g. apparently Frankel went team to team telling all GMs that a player was an alcoholic so that he'd fall from a top 10 pick to out of the first round so they could pick him up). Obviously Kawhi is not this much of an idiot - he chose this representation for a reason. I think a lot of agents wouldn't want to put their reputation at risk for one player, which is why Kawhi ended up with this agent.
Seems like a good time to bump this. The trainer is now saying he's completely willing to cooperate with the NBA if they want to investigate the Clippers' tampering to get Kawhi. It's not even part of his claims in the lawsuit so he will get nothing for doing it other than one final (bleep) you to the Clippers. Just beautiful stuff.
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:35 pm Post subject:
Atticus wrote:
Atticus wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
governator wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
MJST wrote:
Kawhi having a procedure done on his knee again, will miss the start of training camp.
Over/under on games played this year?
Crazy they didn’t give the max to PG and cut the loses on Kawhi instead of the other way around
Kawhi has receipts. The Jerry West tampering/bribery thing was swept under the rug, but it wasn’t made up. All sorts of shady crap went on with that organization in the acquisition and retaining of KL. He runs the Clippers in ways that Klutch/LBJ can’t even think of running the Lakers.
This always gets lost. Forget the "did they speak 20 minutes before the moratorium was lifted" stuff. The Clippers were recruiting Kawhi his entire season with the Raptors. They were sending people to his games all year. They were willing to staff his own medical team and give him all types of similar fringe benefits (houses, private planes so he could fly back and forth between LA and San Diego whenever he wanted, etc) that Jeanie wasn't willing to risk. They asked Jeanie for (bleep) part ownership of the team: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-investigated-kawhi-leonards-uncle-dennis-robertson-for-asking-for-impermissible-benefits-per-report/
"Robertson, however, reportedly "asked team officials for part ownership of the team, a private plane that would be available at all times, a house and — last but certainly not least — a guaranteed amount of off-court endorsement money that they could expect if Leonard played for their team."
These requests were repeatedly denied by the Lakers, according to Amick, which reportedly prompted Robertson to ask about the ownership stake given to Magic Johnson in 1991 after he was forced to retire due to his HIV diagnosis. That agreement was permissible by league rules. Granting Leonard a piece of the team would not be."
He's quiet so he gets a pass on all this stuff from the media. Kawhi is a talented player, but everything around him and how he has handled his career is shady as (bleep). His official (non-Uncle Dennis) agent represents no other active NBA players and is a complete ghost online. If you dig around you can find some shady stuff that the agency apparently did on the NFL side (e.g. apparently Frankel went team to team telling all GMs that a player was an alcoholic so that he'd fall from a top 10 pick to out of the first round so they could pick him up). Obviously Kawhi is not this much of an idiot - he chose this representation for a reason. I think a lot of agents wouldn't want to put their reputation at risk for one player, which is why Kawhi ended up with this agent.
Seems like a good time to bump this. The trainer is now saying he's completely willing to cooperate with the NBA if they want to investigate the Clippers' tampering to get Kawhi. It's not even part of his claims in the lawsuit so he will get nothing for doing it other than one final (bleep) you to the Clippers. Just beautiful stuff.
I really hope that gets exposed with solid proof to show how shady the clippers and Kawhi are. Great stuff
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Also all the Spurs fans are asking for apologies from everyone else in the league for how most people took Kawhi's side in the "incident"
