Kawhi having a procedure done on his knee again, will miss the start of training camp.
Over/under on games played this year?
Crazy they didn’t give the max to PG and cut the loses on Kawhi instead of the other way around
Kawhi has receipts. The Jerry West tampering/bribery thing was swept under the rug, but it wasn’t made up. All sorts of shady crap went on with that organization in the acquisition and retaining of KL. He runs the Clippers in ways that Klutch/LBJ can’t even think of running the Lakers.
This always gets lost. Forget the "did they speak 20 minutes before the moratorium was lifted" stuff. The Clippers were recruiting Kawhi his entire season with the Raptors. They were sending people to his games all year. They were willing to staff his own medical team and give him all types of similar fringe benefits (houses, private planes so he could fly back and forth between LA and San Diego whenever he wanted, etc) that Jeanie wasn't willing to risk. They asked Jeanie for (bleep) part ownership of the team: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-investigated-kawhi-leonards-uncle-dennis-robertson-for-asking-for-impermissible-benefits-per-report/
"Robertson, however, reportedly "asked team officials for part ownership of the team, a private plane that would be available at all times, a house and — last but certainly not least — a guaranteed amount of off-court endorsement money that they could expect if Leonard played for their team."
These requests were repeatedly denied by the Lakers, according to Amick, which reportedly prompted Robertson to ask about the ownership stake given to Magic Johnson in 1991 after he was forced to retire due to his HIV diagnosis. That agreement was permissible by league rules. Granting Leonard a piece of the team would not be."
He's quiet so he gets a pass on all this stuff from the media. Kawhi is a talented player, but everything around him and how he has handled his career is shady as (bleep). His official (non-Uncle Dennis) agent represents no other active NBA players and is a complete ghost online. If you dig around you can find some shady stuff that the agency apparently did on the NFL side (e.g. apparently Frankel went team to team telling all GMs that a player was an alcoholic so that he'd fall from a top 10 pick to out of the first round so they could pick him up). Obviously Kawhi is not this much of an idiot - he chose this representation for a reason. I think a lot of agents wouldn't want to put their reputation at risk for one player, which is why Kawhi ended up with this agent.
Seems like a good time to bump this. The trainer is now saying he's completely willing to cooperate with the NBA if they want to investigate the Clippers' tampering to get Kawhi. It's not even part of his claims in the lawsuit so he will get nothing for doing it other than one final (bleep) you to the Clippers. Just beautiful stuff.
All I can say is that I am glad Jeanie was cheap for once…
Lebron didn’t even ask for ownership, but this snake Kawhi did??? At current rate, I am not sure who retires first.
Kawhi having a procedure done on his knee again, will miss the start of training camp.
Over/under on games played this year?
Crazy they didn’t give the max to PG and cut the loses on Kawhi instead of the other way around
Kawhi has receipts. The Jerry West tampering/bribery thing was swept under the rug, but it wasn’t made up. All sorts of shady crap went on with that organization in the acquisition and retaining of KL. He runs the Clippers in ways that Klutch/LBJ can’t even think of running the Lakers.
This always gets lost. Forget the "did they speak 20 minutes before the moratorium was lifted" stuff. The Clippers were recruiting Kawhi his entire season with the Raptors. They were sending people to his games all year. They were willing to staff his own medical team and give him all types of similar fringe benefits (houses, private planes so he could fly back and forth between LA and San Diego whenever he wanted, etc) that Jeanie wasn't willing to risk. They asked Jeanie for (bleep) part ownership of the team: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-investigated-kawhi-leonards-uncle-dennis-robertson-for-asking-for-impermissible-benefits-per-report/
"Robertson, however, reportedly "asked team officials for part ownership of the team, a private plane that would be available at all times, a house and — last but certainly not least — a guaranteed amount of off-court endorsement money that they could expect if Leonard played for their team."
These requests were repeatedly denied by the Lakers, according to Amick, which reportedly prompted Robertson to ask about the ownership stake given to Magic Johnson in 1991 after he was forced to retire due to his HIV diagnosis. That agreement was permissible by league rules. Granting Leonard a piece of the team would not be."
He's quiet so he gets a pass on all this stuff from the media. Kawhi is a talented player, but everything around him and how he has handled his career is shady as (bleep). His official (non-Uncle Dennis) agent represents no other active NBA players and is a complete ghost online. If you dig around you can find some shady stuff that the agency apparently did on the NFL side (e.g. apparently Frankel went team to team telling all GMs that a player was an alcoholic so that he'd fall from a top 10 pick to out of the first round so they could pick him up). Obviously Kawhi is not this much of an idiot - he chose this representation for a reason. I think a lot of agents wouldn't want to put their reputation at risk for one player, which is why Kawhi ended up with this agent.
Seems like a good time to bump this. The trainer is now saying he's completely willing to cooperate with the NBA if they want to investigate the Clippers' tampering to get Kawhi. It's not even part of his claims in the lawsuit so he will get nothing for doing it other than one final (bleep) you to the Clippers. Just beautiful stuff.
He's likely including that stuff to try to force the Clippers to settle with him and get him to sign an NDA to shut him up. If the stuff he says is true, and he has proof of it, the Clippers might be better off paying him off rather than risking losing more draft picks or whatever punishment they think the league might levy against them.
He's likely including that stuff to try to force the Clippers to settle with him and get him to sign an NDA to shut him up. If the stuff he says is true, and he has proof of it, the Clippers might be better off paying him off rather than risking losing more draft picks or whatever punishment they think the league might levy against them.
This. Ballmer will make this go away like he did with all the lawsuits Dolan filed against him. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
How do you dodge a bullet that wasn't coming your way? He wasn't coming here. The word to describe him is duplitious. Treacherous and deceitful.
Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 36699 Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -≥≥≥≥≥Berkeley, CA
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:12 pm Post subject:
LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
ocho wrote:
Quote:
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
How do you dodge a bullet that wasn't coming your way? He wasn't coming here. The word to describe him is duplitious. Treacherous and deceitful.
He was playing the Lakers
Yeah… I’m still mad we didn’t end up with Jimmy Butler or Kyrie as the third star. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
How do you dodge a bullet that wasn't coming your way? He wasn't coming here. The word to describe him is duplitious. Treacherous and deceitful.
He was playing the Lakers
I think the point is, we're glad that he ended up just playing us. _________________ Knecht 4 Starter
jodeke wrote:
I think Bron is in his world playing with Bronny. I wonder if they shower together.
It seems ironic that as the Clippers opened up perhaps the best stadium in the world, somehow the Lakers had a story from the night before (Bron/ny) that stole the headlines.
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
How do you dodge a bullet that wasn't coming your way? He wasn't coming here. The word to describe him is duplitious. Treacherous and deceitful.
He was playing the Lakers
I think the point is, we're glad that he ended up just playing us.
We know he's not playing for the Lakers. Couldn't another point be that he was never coming?
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:24 pm Post subject:
LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
Megaton wrote:
LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
ocho wrote:
Quote:
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
How do you dodge a bullet that wasn't coming your way? He wasn't coming here. The word to describe him is duplitious. Treacherous and deceitful.
He was playing the Lakers
I think the point is, we're glad that he ended up just playing us.
We know he's not playing for the Lakers. Couldn't another point be that he was never coming?
Kinda funny to say this, but I think you're taking something figurative too literal. LOL!
Lakers went after Kawhil Leonard HARD, and struck out. To say "we dodged a bullet" seems apropos. Oh I got it... think of Kawhi as the bullet that was coming to Los Angeles.
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
How do you dodge a bullet that wasn't coming your way? He wasn't coming here. The word to describe him is duplitious. Treacherous and deceitful.
He was playing the Lakers
I think the point is, we're glad that he ended up just playing us.
We know he's not playing for the Lakers. Couldn't another point be that he was never coming?
Kinda funny to say this, but I think you're taking something figurative too literal. LOL!
Lakers went after Kawhil Leonard HARD, and struck out. To say "we dodged a bullet" seems apropos. Oh I got it... think of Kawhi as the bullet that was coming to Los Angeles.
Dodged it but hit our tenant. _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
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Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
How do you dodge a bullet that wasn't coming your way? He wasn't coming here. The word to describe him is duplitious. Treacherous and deceitful.
He was playing the Lakers
I think the point is, we're glad that he ended up just playing us.
Yep. He also ended up playing us because he knew Ballmer would not be outdone with his demands.
As much as Jeanie “attempted” to get it done, the point is her cheap ways were going to lose to Ballmer and so that’s why I mentioned dodged a bullet even though Jeanie probably didn’t get why the Laker brand didn’t lure Kawhi and uncle Dennis.
Raps could load manage Kawhi because they had incredible depth. They had Siakam, Vanvleet, Ibaka, Gasol, Danny Green, Anunoby, Lowry, Powell. In a sense, they carried him when he couldn't play. The team composition, bench play, defense, 3pt shooting all lined up for him, and everything came together at the perfect time. So much of it was luck, but I also respect Kawhi's talent.
However, the Warriors were just so good that if Durant and Klay didn't get hurt, they still beat the Raps. That was a brutal injury for him, though thankfully not career ending as history has demonstrated. Championship fatigue and wear and tear are real. That was Klay's first major injury. _________________ Yi Jianlian Fanboy. Respect The Chair.
Starting anew. I'm retiring my main.
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
How do you dodge a bullet that wasn't coming your way? He wasn't coming here. The word to describe him is duplitious. Treacherous and deceitful.
He was playing the Lakers
I think the point is, we're glad that he ended up just playing us.
Yep. He also ended up playing us because he knew Ballmer would not be outdone with his demands.
As much as Jeanie “attempted” to get it done, the point is her cheap ways were going to lose to Ballmer and so that’s why I mentioned dodged a bullet even though Jeanie probably didn’t get why the Laker brand didn’t lure Kawhi and uncle Dennis.
Dude, stop. Unless your point is that Jeanie wasn't going to break the rules, the Lakers would've given him everything that he wanted that was permissible under the CBA and Constitution. To say/think otherwise is just juvenile. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
NBA spokesperson on the lawsuit and allegations filed against the Clippers by a former trainer who worked with Kawhi Leonard: “We are reviewing the court filings in this matter.”
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:58 am Post subject:
Dr. Laker wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
Megaton wrote:
LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
ocho wrote:
Quote:
Former Los Angeles Clippers trainer Randy Shelton is suing the franchise for wrongful termination, among other things, after he claims he was fired after complaining that Kawhi Leonard was being subjected to unsafe and illegal treatment for injuries.
If there is one thing I have learned from this entire Kawhi clippers era, it’s that the Spurs medical team was correct.
Toronto just benefitted from a miraculous run before his quad completely shredded.
Lakers got lucky again with dodged bullet. Even though the real reason they didn’t get him was Jeanie was never going to out do Ballmer in player perks so cheap won out lol.
How do you dodge a bullet that wasn't coming your way? He wasn't coming here. The word to describe him is duplitious. Treacherous and deceitful.
He was playing the Lakers
I think the point is, we're glad that he ended up just playing us.
Yep. He also ended up playing us because he knew Ballmer would not be outdone with his demands.
As much as Jeanie “attempted” to get it done, the point is her cheap ways were going to lose to Ballmer and so that’s why I mentioned dodged a bullet even though Jeanie probably didn’t get why the Laker brand didn’t lure Kawhi and uncle Dennis.
Dude, stop. Unless your point is that Jeanie wasn't going to break the rules, the Lakers would've given him everything that he wanted that was permissible under the CBA and Constitution. To say/think otherwise is just juvenile.
Yet the Lakers broke the rules with PG and were fined $500,000. They tried playing the game but they weren’t good at it. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
You have two different points. Quit hanging out with Clippers fans - it's worse than sniffing glue. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
I recently noticed that a lot of my anti-Clipper zeal has been slipping away. They've moved out of the Lakers' arena, PG13 is gone so they are a weaker squad, Kawahi continues to be MIA... I still want them to lose each and every game against teams not soaked in putrid green, but mostly I don't care any more.
Proof of that is I didn't bother setting up the DVR to gleefully watch them get beat down like I've done in past seasons. Ah well, hopefully another team will eventually come along to be the second squad that I love most to hate.
I will continue to hate them until the architect of it all, 2020 NBA Executive of the Year, Lawrence Frank, is gone.
This. I will continue to hate them as long Powell and Terence Mann are there.
Watching Westbrook air ball his first shot as a Nugget last night and ultimately going 2-10 from the field reminded me of another reason I used to enjoy watching the Clippers suffer in games last season that's now gone. Ahh, the good ol' days.
You have two different points. Quit hanging out with Clippers fans - it's worse than sniffing glue.
How is it different?
Kawhi chose the clippers because Ballmer was going to give him all the under the table stuff. Jeanie isn’t innocent, she can handle $500K tampering but she can’t hang with Ballmer.
Hence, the dodged a bullet because Jeanie is cheap thing. I don’t see how that’s 2 different points? Seems related to me.
Edit: A different point would be that the Lakers knowing Kawhi medicals didn’t really put on the full court press but they did; so that’s why it’s dodged a bullet. Jeanie, after the fact, even made comments how she was uncomfortable breaking CBA rules. Funny, she didn’t seem uncomfortable when it came to PG13. Kawhi was out of her ($) league even if she didn’t fully grasp it at the time.
You have two different points. Quit hanging out with Clippers fans - it's worse than sniffing glue.
How is it different?
Kawhi chose the clippers because Ballmer was going to give him all the under the table stuff. Jeanie isn’t innocent, she can handle $500K tampering but she can’t hang with Ballmer.
Hence, the dodged a bullet because Jeanie is cheap thing. I don’t see how that’s 2 different points? Seems related to me.
Edit: A different point would be that the Lakers knowing Kawhi medicals didn’t really put on the full court press but they did; so that’s why it’s dodged a bullet. Jeanie, after the fact, even made comments how she was uncomfortable breaking CBA rules. Funny, she didn’t seem uncomfortable when it came to PG13. Kawhi was out of her ($) league even if she didn’t fully grasp it at the time.
Your point was that Jeanie was too cheap to do all the illegal stuff.
VCF's point was that the Lakers were ignorant and didn't know how to do the illegal stuff. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
You have two different points. Quit hanging out with Clippers fans - it's worse than sniffing glue.
How is it different?
Kawhi chose the clippers because Ballmer was going to give him all the under the table stuff. Jeanie isn’t innocent, she can handle $500K tampering but she can’t hang with Ballmer.
Hence, the dodged a bullet because Jeanie is cheap thing. I don’t see how that’s 2 different points? Seems related to me.
Edit: A different point would be that the Lakers knowing Kawhi medicals didn’t really put on the full court press but they did; so that’s why it’s dodged a bullet. Jeanie, after the fact, even made comments how she was uncomfortable breaking CBA rules. Funny, she didn’t seem uncomfortable when it came to PG13. Kawhi was out of her ($) league even if she didn’t fully grasp it at the time.
Your point was that Jeanie was too cheap to do all the illegal stuff.
VCF's point was that the Lakers were ignorant and didn't know how to do the illegal stuff.
What does that have to do with my point? My agreement with VCF is on Jeanie being cheap. She can’t hang in today’s sports. We run a lean basketball ops relative to rest of NBA and specifically the other big markets.
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