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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:21 pm    Post subject:

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Imagine what Kawhi is thinking right now. He GM'ed the whole Clipper thing to take over LA, WE GOT NOW, and it has come and gone. During this time period, the Lakers got the chip, not the Clippers. And the Lakers will be entering a new Luka era, and the man you tried to 1-up, Lebron James, is about the reap the benefits.

You could have been a part of the discussion in 2025 if SGA was still a Clipper and you still had all the trade assets you gave to OKC. Just like the Westbrook deal... Players need to stop GM'ing. LOL!

What he's feeling is generational wealth while being practically retired at home. Anytime he's called into work he has to stay in top physical health and play a childhood game.


This. 2 rings. A boat load of money and being home. Pretty good. A lot of guys can see the bigger picture in life. It’s not that bad. I doubt he loses sleep over the SGA trade.


What are you guys doing? Isn't this the piling on Clippers' thread? There are no sympathetic, level headed, rational takes allowed. LOL! Lets get back on track and talk about their misery, and even hyperbolize their misery please.


At least he's still kind of trying.... sometimes! I'd expect no less from who's supposed to be the best player of the Clippers tbh. He's just a fun guy out there enjoying life while still making more then Bron sitting on the bench and enjoying the Family life 🤣

Ben Simmons has only dreamed of a magical Disneyland esque environment like this and still be able to make that $$$$ off potential for a few more Years.

They might have to add more fake actors and funnel in more fake noise but that's nothing for Mr. Money Bags.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:55 pm    Post subject:

Clippers just lost their 3rd straight game. That gap continues to grow
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:14 pm    Post subject:

hype wrote:
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Imagine what Kawhi is thinking right now. He GM'ed the whole Clipper thing to take over LA, WE GOT NOW, and it has come and gone. During this time period, the Lakers got the chip, not the Clippers. And the Lakers will be entering a new Luka era, and the man you tried to 1-up, Lebron James, is about the reap the benefits.

You could have been a part of the discussion in 2025 if SGA was still a Clipper and you still had all the trade assets you gave to OKC. Just like the Westbrook deal... Players need to stop GM'ing. LOL!

What he's feeling is generational wealth while being practically retired at home. Anytime he's called into work he has to stay in top physical health and play a childhood game.


This. 2 rings. A boat load of money and being home. Pretty good. A lot of guys can see the bigger picture in life. It’s not that bad. I doubt he loses sleep over the SGA trade.


What are you guys doing? Isn't this the piling on Clippers' thread? There are no sympathetic, level headed, rational takes allowed. LOL! Lets get back on track and talk about their misery, and even hyperbolize their misery please.


At least he's still kind of trying.... sometimes! I'd expect no less from who's supposed to be the best player of the Clippers tbh. He's just a fun guy out there enjoying life while still making more then Bron sitting on the bench and enjoying the Family life 🤣

Ben Simmons has only dreamed of a magical Disneyland esque environment like this and still be able to make that $$$$ off potential for a few more Years.

They might have to add more fake actors and funnel in more fake noise but that's nothing for Mr. Money Bags.


Great for Kawhi. . .


But for the Clippers? Imagine if they had kept SGA, the boatload of picks, used the 2019 cap space on Butler and stuck the Lakers with a declining Kawhi? They’d likely have hung a banner or two by now.


BUT THEY DIDN’T! Instead, they shot themselves in the foot trying to one up the Lakers and have become (quoting Jerry West) a (bleep) show, while the Lakers won a ring, added Luka along with (hopefully) our center of the future and are poised to ring again, maybe even this year!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:00 pm    Post subject:

The biggest eye roll will be made when VCF returns the next time Clippers get a win and Lakers lose one.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:42 pm    Post subject:

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Runway8 wrote:
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Imagine what Kawhi is thinking right now. He GM'ed the whole Clipper thing to take over LA, WE GOT NOW, and it has come and gone. During this time period, the Lakers got the chip, not the Clippers. And the Lakers will be entering a new Luka era, and the man you tried to 1-up, Lebron James, is about the reap the benefits.

You could have been a part of the discussion in 2025 if SGA was still a Clipper and you still had all the trade assets you gave to OKC. Just like the Westbrook deal... Players need to stop GM'ing. LOL!

What he's feeling is generational wealth while being practically retired at home. Anytime he's called into work he has to stay in top physical health and play a childhood game.


This. 2 rings. A boat load of money and being home. Pretty good. A lot of guys can see the bigger picture in life. It’s not that bad. I doubt he loses sleep over the SGA trade.


What are you guys doing? Isn't this the piling on Clippers' thread? There are no sympathetic, level headed, rational takes allowed. LOL! Lets get back on track and talk about their misery, and even hyperbolize their misery please.


At least he's still kind of trying.... sometimes! I'd expect no less from who's supposed to be the best player of the Clippers tbh. He's just a fun guy out there enjoying life while still making more then Bron sitting on the bench and enjoying the Family life 🤣

Ben Simmons has only dreamed of a magical Disneyland esque environment like this and still be able to make that $$$$ off potential for a few more Years.

They might have to add more fake actors and funnel in more fake noise but that's nothing for Mr. Money Bags.


Great for Kawhi. . .


But for the Clippers? Imagine if they had kept SGA, the boatload of picks, used the 2019 cap space on Butler and stuck the Lakers with a declining Kawhi? They’d likely have hung a banner or two by now.


BUT THEY DIDN’T! Instead, they shot themselves in the foot trying to one up the Lakers and have become (quoting Jerry West) a (bleep) show, while the Lakers won a ring, added Luka along with (hopefully) our center of the future and are poised to ring again, maybe even this year!


Agree 💯 !

There's an alternate reality for sure where they Won a ring or two while also still being a top level team currently and we're stuck with the corpse of Kawhi with a very bleak future.

It's a big reason why I go extra hard on them because I know for a fact they would be wildly trash talking us right now if that was the case especially in that pretty new stadium that instead will just be the Lakers second home full of great Luka highlights and I'm thankful as hell for that!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:56 pm    Post subject:

How many rings do you think we would have won with Kawhi instead of Green/KCP/Rondo?

I think we would still probably have gotten the 2020 one. And maybe playing next to LeBron and AD, Kawhi doesn't tear his ACL and we get the repeat in 2021. But at some point his degenerative issues kick in and we're stuck with a huge contract.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:56 pm    Post subject:

Clippers have always been a team that surpasses expectations when expectations are low, but never the team that actually succeeds at the highest level.

They did a good job in even getting to where they are now, but they weren't going to be great or anything. You need reliable stars to do that.

I think they can still salvage a playoff spot if Kawhi eventually returns to form, but you never know what you'll get out of Kawhi. And on top of the many, many injury issues, he's getting at the age where he just might be declining now.

They should sell off their assets this off-season and commit to a rebuild. Kawhi and Norman Powell should fetch good returns.

Even now, Kawhi has proven to be such a poor investment for the Clippers. What a blessing in disguise that the Lakers ultimately didn't get him in 2019.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:42 am    Post subject:

Clippers sign Simmons?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:44 am    Post subject:

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Clippers have always been a team that surpasses expectations when expectations are low, but never the team that actually succeeds at the highest level.

They did a good job in even getting to where they are now, but they weren't going to be great or anything. You need reliable stars to do that.

I think they can still salvage a playoff spot if Kawhi eventually returns to form, but you never know what you'll get out of Kawhi. And on top of the many, many injury issues, he's getting at the age where he just might be declining now.

They should sell off their assets this off-season and commit to a rebuild. Kawhi and Norman Powell should fetch good returns.

Even now, Kawhi has proven to be such a poor investment for the Clippers. What a blessing in disguise that the Lakers ultimately didn't get him in 2019.


Not sure how low a 2 max or a max-near max player team expectations should be, I assume it’s the same as ours, deep playoff run
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:55 am    Post subject:

Who knows about what would have happened had Kawhi landed with us, honestly. If the "Clippers Curse" is indeed a real thing, maybe Kawhi actually would have been awesome for us and we won a chip or two?

Someday, when our tech allows us to create parallel universes/alternate histories, it would sure be interesting to look back and see "what could have been," had Kawhi been bathed in the blessing of Lakers purple & gold instead...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:27 pm    Post subject:

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The LA Clippers will be without Kawhi Leonard and Norman Powell again.

Leonard due to foot soreness, Powell now diagnosed with left patellar tendinopathy.

Ben Simmons out as expected. No G-League relief either, so 11 man-roster for tonight at Detroit.


Kawhi sitting both b2b games??
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:31 pm    Post subject:

This gap is going to be like an ocean if the Lakers managed to pull off a 3peater.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:43 pm    Post subject:

don't get me wrong, i'm liking every minute of it when Clippers' future is trending down. but i'm kind of surprised that with Ballmer's deep pocket and ambition, why they have not moved on from the old formula of compiling aging stars with LA roots? from KL to PG to Russ and now to Harden, none of the combinations have worked so far. they played hard and is well coached, but clippers needs a young star to build around.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:01 pm    Post subject:

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don't get me wrong, i'm liking every minute of it when Clippers' future is trending down. but i'm kind of surprised that with Ballmer's deep pocket and ambition, why they have not moved on from the old formula of compiling aging stars with LA roots? from KL to PG to Russ and now to Harden, none of the combinations have worked so far. they played hard and is well coached, but clippers needs a young star to build around.


I think Balmer eventually swallows his pride and gets rid of any player of value as soon as this summer and possible trade back for control of some of their picks. Funny thing is I've been watching a lot of videos on Microsoft in late 00s and early 10s. A lot of mistakes that had to be rectified.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:20 pm    Post subject:

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don't get me wrong, i'm liking every minute of it when Clippers' future is trending down. but i'm kind of surprised that with Ballmer's deep pocket and ambition, why they have not moved on from the old formula of compiling aging stars with LA roots? from KL to PG to Russ and now to Harden, none of the combinations have worked so far. they played hard and is well coached, but clippers needs a young star to build around.


Hard to get a young star when you've traded all your picks for Paul freaking George
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:25 pm    Post subject:

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Who knows about what would have happened had Kawhi landed with us, honestly. If the "Clippers Curse" is indeed a real thing, maybe Kawhi actually would have been awesome for us and we won a chip or two?

Someday, when our tech allows us to create parallel universes/alternate histories, it would sure be interesting to look back and see "what could have been," had Kawhi been bathed in the blessing of Lakers purple & gold instead...


i have no doubt if either PG or Kawhi signed with us in 2019, Lakers would've gotten at least one more title 100%. the big 3 of LeBron, AD and PG or KL is just too perfect to had it actually happened.
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don't get me wrong, i'm liking every minute of it when Clippers' future is trending down. but i'm kind of surprised that with Ballmer's deep pocket and ambition, why they have not moved on from the old formula of compiling aging stars with LA roots? from KL to PG to Russ and now to Harden, none of the combinations have worked so far. they played hard and is well coached, but clippers needs a young star to build around.


Just imagine if they could get their hands on a player like SGA. whoa
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don't get me wrong, i'm liking every minute of it when Clippers' future is trending down. but i'm kind of surprised that with Ballmer's deep pocket and ambition, why they have not moved on from the old formula of compiling aging stars with LA roots? from KL to PG to Russ and now to Harden, none of the combinations have worked so far. they played hard and is well coached, but clippers needs a young star to build around.


Just imagine if they could get their hands on a player like SGA. whoa


this is why you never made players make your personnel decision. Kawhi demanded PG as a condition for him to sign and the rest was history.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:40 pm    Post subject:

Clippers did have a young star…

They traded him and a crap load of picks for Paul George.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:55 pm    Post subject:

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Clippers did have a young star…

They traded him and a crap load of picks for Paul George.


That's why you always get the Square Trade warranty. Can't believe Ballmer is so cheap. It was only $99, and if they can't fix your super star, they send you a brand-new one. Rob filed a claim on a defective AD, and got a brand-new star. Luka might have been refurbished, I'm not sure, but it's still a great deal.
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don't get me wrong, i'm liking every minute of it when Clippers' future is trending down. but i'm kind of surprised that with Ballmer's deep pocket and ambition, why they have not moved on from the old formula of compiling aging stars with LA roots? from KL to PG to Russ and now to Harden, none of the combinations have worked so far. they played hard and is well coached, but clippers needs a young star to build around.


They gift wrapped SGA
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ksmgf wrote:
SGV-Laker fan wrote:
don't get me wrong, i'm liking every minute of it when Clippers' future is trending down. but i'm kind of surprised that with Ballmer's deep pocket and ambition, why they have not moved on from the old formula of compiling aging stars with LA roots? from KL to PG to Russ and now to Harden, none of the combinations have worked so far. they played hard and is well coached, but clippers needs a young star to build around.


They gift wrapped SGA


Not only that but they traded all there future picks as well so they literally have no choice but to sign these underwhelming, washed "stars" now because if they do tank? There lottery winnings are just going to another team anyways. It's truly amazing how Balmer can take over a team in LA, build a new Billion dollar stadium, try and bury the Lakers brand with cringeworthy slogans on billboards and still hear crickets...

At least they have a solid supporting cast that helps carry the corpse of Kawhi to mediocrity which is about as positive as things are going to get over the next Season or two. Seems like they also contacted the Seattle Seahawks and were able to pipe in some of that top of the line fake crowd noise which is tricking nobody
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:16 pm    Post subject:

Kawhi Leonard literally killed the team. All that skullduggery and they have an aging, injured team; they’ve lost market share to the Lakers and (per John Ireland, a former employee) there are a lot of empty seats in the Intuit Dome.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:22 pm    Post subject:

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Kawhi Leonard literally killed the team. All that skullduggery and they have an aging, injured team; they’ve lost market share to the Lakers and (per John Ireland, a former employee) there are a lot of empty seats in the Intuit Dome.


Wait, since when was Ireland ever a Clipper employee? I've been listening to him since the Mighty 690 days when he was based in San Diego. From there, KSPN 710 LA and Lakers radio play by play.

Side note, still incredible that LA didn't get a dedicated sports radio station since early part of the century. No wonder we didn't dnt have NFL for about 22 years lol.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:22 pm    Post subject:

It's funny that the clippers moved to inglewood of all places. Where generations of families grew up Laker fans and most still are.
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