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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:12 pm Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
Hopefully they don’t sign harden.
The best case scenario as a Lakers fan would be for the Clippers to give up whatever assets and draft picks they have left to get Harden. That trio won’t win anything and they will have a hard time rebuilding. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
I can get behind them trading for Harden, I don't see them staying healthy to maximize on it, and usually these last resort desperate moves end up in disaster. It would take a while for them to become serious contenders again if they empty their assets for Harden _________________ 48 49 50 52 53 54 72 80 82
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The best case scenario as a Lakers fan would be for the Clippers to give up whatever assets and draft picks they have left to get Harden. That trio won’t win anything and they will have a hard time rebuilding.
Exactly. The implosion will happen quicker.
Looks like the Clippers FO isn’t dumb enough to burn all their assets on the manufactured declining star.
If anything, they are more likely to trade Kawhi or PG and say enough of you guys dictating everything…
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:58 pm Post subject:
If the Clippers trade for Harden without giving up PG13 or Kawhi, I predict the national media will pick them as the overwhelming favorites to win the world championship, just like last season when they signed John Wall and their fans thought they had just put together a superteam.
Unfortunately for them, Harden is a playoff choker and not a winning player. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
Can't believe that this will mark the final season that we have to share the same building with those bastards before they move into that fugly ass dome near So-Fi.
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:43 am Post subject:
slavavov wrote:
If the Clippers trade for Harden without giving up PG13 or Kawhi, I predict the national media will pick them as the overwhelming favorites to win the world championship, just like last season when they signed John Wall and their fans thought they had just put together a superteam.
Unfortunately for them, Harden is a playoff choker and not a winning player.
It would be pretty funny to have two famous lockdown defenders in Kawhi and Paul George, and then add a sieve in Harden. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:11 pm Post subject:
CandyCanes wrote:
slavavov wrote:
If the Clippers trade for Harden without giving up PG13 or Kawhi, I predict the national media will pick them as the overwhelming favorites to win the world championship, just like last season when they signed John Wall and their fans thought they had just put together a superteam.
Unfortunately for them, Harden is a playoff choker and not a winning player.
It would be pretty funny to have two famous lockdown defenders in Kawhi and Paul George, and then add a sieve in Harden.
Kawhi is far from those days imo.. I'm sure he can sometimes do it in small stretches but yeah, that would just make it that much more frustrating for him im sure.. The one kind of scary thing about that is Harden would help lighten the load for him on Offense (Until the Playoffs at least ) so it would be kind of interesting how that dynamic worked.
The chances those 3 guys are all healthy for the Playoffs are way less then it is for our duo though. I personally think unless Kawhi goes to an already established contender like he did with the Raptors he's got no chance of getting another Ring with or without Harden.
The Season ticket thing is a wild idea though.. Do they really have enough fans that want to buy SEASON TICKETS that will also happily accept this new petty asf idea Balmer wants to do? I get the idea behind it but it's basically admitting they're the little brothers nobody wants to hang out with and will remain that way.
Harden would help the Clips, but it's not the help they need - especially with WB. What they really need, however, is an organic building process. They've spent the past 6 seasons trying "out-Laker" the Lakers, which is never a winning strategy. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
I hate this thread. For some (bleep) reason Google has associated all of Lakersground with this thread, so anytime I write Lakers in the www. search bar this is what shows up, page 381.
No matter how many times I erase my history it always brings up Lakers versus clippers 😂
I hate this thread. For some (bleep) reason Google has associated all of Lakersground with this thread, so anytime I write Lakers in the www. search bar this is what shows up, page 381.
No matter how many times I erase my history it always brings up Lakers versus clippers 😂
The Twilight Zone! _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
It’s not about them winning ring. That’s unlikely. It’s just makes west even tougher.
In no order.
Lakers
Grizz
Kings
Suns
Nuggs
Clippers
Gsw
Mavs
Okc
The only team we are most likely better than without question is okc. We don’t need the west to get any better.
The only team we are mostly like better than without question is OKC?
What in the world...
We are better than these teams without question...
OKC
GSW
Grizz
MAvs
clippers
kings
Grizzlies: Their injuries are uncertain, but they seemed to have improved in the areas they needed to.
Warriors: They were dysfunctional and missed their 3rd best player for most of the year. However, Steph Curry remains the best player on the court when playing against us, and the team seems to have resolved their dysfunction.
Mavericks: Luka Dončić is better than everyone, and there's a chance he and Kyrie Irving will improve.
Clippers: They have had the upper hand in recent history against us. While injuries shouldn't be an excuse, we still have vulnerabilities at the top.
Kings: They are really good and have had a taste of success.
Thunder: This is the only team that we can be sure of beating. However, if Shai Gilgeous-Alexander continues to improve, he can single-handedly challenge us and other teams.
Above all, we need to prove that last season's success was not a fluke. The Western Conference was unpredictable, and we benefitted from an easy schedule towards the end. _________________ Kobe.
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It’s not about them winning ring. That’s unlikely. It’s just makes west even tougher.
In no order.
Lakers
Grizz
Kings
Suns
Nuggs
Clippers
Gsw
Mavs
Okc
The only team we are most likely better than without question is okc. We don’t need the west to get any better.
The only team we are mostly like better than without question is OKC?
What in the world...
We are better than these teams without question...
OKC
GSW
Grizz
MAvs
clippers
kings
Ridiculous take IMO. Questionable if we are even better than 1 of those teams. It’s all up in the air - the lucky WCF run means nothing. Wouldn’t surprise me if we finish as the 11th seed this year.
Ridiculous take IMO. Questionable if we are even better than 1 of those teams. It’s all up in the air - the lucky WCF run means nothing. Wouldn’t surprise me if we finish as the 11th seed this year.
The "lucky" western conference run came after the Lakers closed the regular season on an 18-7 run, that's a 72% win percentage. The top team in the league in the regular season last year had a 70.7% win percentage.
You can say the Grizzlies didn't have Adams, but that had been the case for a while, and they were the #2 seed. They then beat the defending champs. And in both cases they did it in 6 games, without home court advantage, and with a subpar Lebron James.
The Lakers had a decent team post-Westbrook trade. And they have improved their roster over the summer.
It’s not about them winning ring. That’s unlikely. It’s just makes west even tougher.
In no order.
Lakers
Grizz
Kings
Suns
Nuggs
Clippers
Gsw
Mavs
Okc
The only team we are most likely better than without question is okc. We don’t need the west to get any better.
The only team we are mostly like better than without question is OKC?
What in the world...
We are better than these teams without question...
OKC
GSW
Grizz
MAvs
clippers
kings
Ridiculous take IMO. Questionable if we are even better than 1 of those teams. It’s all up in the air - the lucky WCF run means nothing. Wouldn’t surprise me if we finish as the 11th seed this year.
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Ridiculous take IMO. Questionable if we are even better than 1 of those teams. It’s all up in the air - the lucky WCF run means nothing. Wouldn’t surprise me if we finish as the 11th seed this year.
The "lucky" western conference run came after the Lakers closed the regular season on an 18-7 run, that's a 72% win percentage. The top team in the league in the regular season last year had a 70.7% win percentage.
You can say the Grizzlies didn't have Adams, but that had been the case for a while, and they were the #2 seed. They then beat the defending champs. And in both cases they did it in 6 games, without home court advantage, and with a subpar Lebron James.
The Lakers had a decent team post-Westbrook trade. And they have improved their roster over the summer.
We can relitigate this endlessly. We had a soft schedule down the stretch, but we definitely played better after Westbrook was gone. You can spin that in any number of ways, but it's a stretch to say that we were playing like the best team in the league. The Grizzlies were 20-16 after Adams went out, plus they had the Morant debacle plus the issues with Brooks. The Warriors had their own issues and barely avoided the play-in.
We could go round and round about this, but there is a far more important point. If you look at the last few seasons, there is little correlation between making the conference finals and future success. The Mavs, the Hawks, the Clippers, and the Blazers all made the conference finals, but none of them have made it back. The point is that making a surprising run to the conference finals does not necessarily indicate that a team is on the verge of winning a title.
I have no problem with people being optimistic about our offseason moves. This is glass-is-half-full season. As I see it, this season will be the same as every other season since 2020: it will all depend on the health and elite status of Lebron and Davis. If they aren't healthy and playing at an elite level, the rest is just noise. We have a number of wild cards that could go either way: Wood, Gabriel, Hayes, Reddish, Vanderbilt. But even if all of them work out, it's going to come down to Lebron and Davis being healthy and playing at an elite level when it matters. _________________ Internet Argument Resolved
Ridiculous take IMO. Questionable if we are even better than 1 of those teams. It’s all up in the air - the lucky WCF run means nothing. Wouldn’t surprise me if we finish as the 11th seed this year.
The "lucky" western conference run came after the Lakers closed the regular season on an 18-7 run, that's a 72% win percentage. The top team in the league in the regular season last year had a 70.7% win percentage.
You can say the Grizzlies didn't have Adams, but that had been the case for a while, and they were the #2 seed. They then beat the defending champs. And in both cases they did it in 6 games, without home court advantage, and with a subpar Lebron James.
The Lakers had a decent team post-Westbrook trade. And they have improved their roster over the summer.
We can relitigate this endlessly. We had a soft schedule down the stretch, but we definitely played better after Westbrook was gone. You can spin that in any number of ways, but it's a stretch to say that we were playing like the best team in the league. The Grizzlies were 20-16 after Adams went out, plus they had the Morant debacle plus the issues with Brooks. The Warriors had their own issues and barely avoided the play-in.
We could go round and round about this, but there is a far more important point. If you look at the last few seasons, there is little correlation between making the conference finals and future success. The Mavs, the Hawks, the Clippers, and the Blazers all made the conference finals, but none of them have made it back. The point is that making a surprising run to the conference finals does not necessarily indicate that a team is on the verge of winning a title.
I have no problem with people being optimistic about our offseason moves. This is glass-is-half-full season. As I see it, this season will be the same as every other season since 2020: it will all depend on the health and elite status of Lebron and Davis. If they aren't healthy and playing at an elite level, the rest is just noise. We have a number of wild cards that could go either way: Wood, Gabriel, Hayes, Reddish, Vanderbilt. But even if all of them work out, it's going to come down to Lebron and Davis being healthy and playing at an elite level when it matters.
If only we could use the previous season's success to predict the outcome of the upcoming season. But, you're right, we can't. Primarily because every season has its' unpredictable variables, like who gets injured, coaching changes, etc., etc.,
The reality is we could be extremely good, or fall way beneath expectations. The continuity from last year and the new additions are reasons for optimism, but that could fade when things don't go as planned.
I hope not. They will be a scary team with Harden, PG and Kawaii...they can beat Denver.
I doubt he moves the needle that much. A lot will depend on how much depth they have to give up. If I was Philly I would demand Mann and Powell at least. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold.
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) so it would be kind of interesting how that dynamic worked.
