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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:07 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Bones Hyland stats before James Harden trade:

24.5 MIN

16 PTS
2 ASTS
1.3 REB
0.8 STL

49% FG
46.4% 3PT
75% FT


He's now been told by Ty Lue that he's out of the rotation for the foreseeable future.


And his stats even after the trade aren’t “terrible”. He’s still overall 12 points off the bench on average efficiency. I would like to know what exactly does this guy do to get so much hate in the locker room?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:31 pm    Post subject:

RUN IT BACK
OKC got this superstar and potential MVP (only 25 yo!) PLUS 5 first rounders for Paul George. Of course this moves brought Clippers Kawhi, but still it feels like another move that contributes to the (bleep)-for-luck history of this hapless franchise.


https://www.espn.com/sports-betting/story/_/id/38792854/nba-betting-shai-gilgeous-alexander-win-mvp-season
SGA currently has the eighth-shortest MVP odds at +1800, putting him on the fringe of contention behind the usual suspects of Nikola Jokic (+400), Luka Doncic (+400), Jayson Tatum (+650), Giannis Antetokounmpo (+800), Joel Embiid (+1000), Stephen Curry (+1100), competing with another up-and-comer in Devin Booker (+1500).
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:35 pm    Post subject:

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I must admit they looked better last night.

Crazy Westbrook led the team in +/- and they had a 99-91 lead, until Lue decided to bench him for Harden.


Benching Westbrook for Harden had nothing to do with the loss, going small against Jokic determined the loss.


Damn…and Murray didn’t even play!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:37 pm    Post subject:

cannga11 wrote:
RUN IT BACK
OKC got this superstar and potential MVP (only 25 yo!) PLUS 5 first rounders for Paul George. Of course this moves brought Clippers Kawhi, but still it feels like another move that contributes to the (bleep)-for-luck history of this hapless franchise.


https://www.espn.com/sports-betting/story/_/id/38792854/nba-betting-shai-gilgeous-alexander-win-mvp-season
SGA currently has the eighth-shortest MVP odds at +1800, putting him on the fringe of contention behind the usual suspects of Nikola Jokic (+400), Luka Doncic (+400), Jayson Tatum (+650), Giannis Antetokounmpo (+800), Joel Embiid (+1000), Stephen Curry (+1100), competing with another up-and-comer in Devin Booker (+1500).


Might even get a lottery pick this summer if clips keep fluttering
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:38 pm    Post subject:

Clippers have talent, so they will win games eventually.

Selfish play and poor chemistry will doom them by the time they get to the post season . . . as it has before.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:46 pm    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
I must admit they looked better last night.

Crazy Westbrook led the team in +/- and they had a 99-91 lead, until Lue decided to bench him for Harden.


Benching Westbrook for Harden had nothing to do with the loss, going small against Jokic determined the loss.


Damn…and Murray didn’t even play!


Clippers are so done...lol. No draft picks going into a new arena. And they're stuck with Brick and Harden because those guys have no trade value atm. I almost feel sorry for them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:08 pm    Post subject:

Clippers Draft Assets

2024 1st -> unprotected to OKC
2024 2nd -> unprotected to LAL

2025 1st->swap to OKC
2025 2nd-> unprotected to LAL

2026 1st->to OKC
2026 2nd-> unprotected to MEM/HOU

2027 1st->swap rights to OKC
2027 2nd->unprotected to Atlanta

2028 1st->unprotected to Philly
2028 2nd->unprotected to Charlotte

2029 1st->pick swap with Philly, protected for picks 1-3
2029 2nd->unprotected to Philly
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:28 pm    Post subject:

nomoreshaq wrote:
Clippers Draft Assets

2024 1st -> unprotected to OKC
2024 2nd -> unprotected to LAL

2025 1st->swap to OKC
2025 2nd-> unprotected to LAL

2026 1st->to OKC
2026 2nd-> unprotected to MEM/HOU

2027 1st->swap rights to OKC
2027 2nd->unprotected to Atlanta

2028 1st->unprotected to Philly
2028 2nd->unprotected to Charlotte

2029 1st->pick swap with Philly, protected for picks 1-3
2029 2nd->unprotected to Philly


I didn’t realize we have two Clippers 2nd round picks for the next couple of years.

That 2nd round pick this season could actually be decent if Clippers continue to flutter.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:53 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
nomoreshaq wrote:
Clippers Draft Assets

2024 1st -> unprotected to OKC
2024 2nd -> unprotected to LAL

2025 1st->swap to OKC
2025 2nd-> unprotected to LAL

2026 1st->to OKC
2026 2nd-> unprotected to MEM/HOU

2027 1st->swap rights to OKC
2027 2nd->unprotected to Atlanta

2028 1st->unprotected to Philly
2028 2nd->unprotected to Charlotte

2029 1st->pick swap with Philly, protected for picks 1-3
2029 2nd->unprotected to Philly


I didn’t realize we have two Clippers 2nd round picks for the next couple of years.

That 2nd round pick this season could actually be decent if Clippers continue to flutter.


Both the 2024 and 2025 secound round picks courtesy of the Pat Bev/Thomas Bryant trade which also netted us Mo Bamba.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:05 pm    Post subject:

Lamar's Bud wrote:
Megaton wrote:
nomoreshaq wrote:
Clippers Draft Assets

2024 1st -> unprotected to OKC
2024 2nd -> unprotected to LAL

2025 1st->swap to OKC
2025 2nd-> unprotected to LAL

2026 1st->to OKC
2026 2nd-> unprotected to MEM/HOU

2027 1st->swap rights to OKC
2027 2nd->unprotected to Atlanta

2028 1st->unprotected to Philly
2028 2nd->unprotected to Charlotte

2029 1st->pick swap with Philly, protected for picks 1-3
2029 2nd->unprotected to Philly


I didn’t realize we have two Clippers 2nd round picks for the next couple of years.

That 2nd round pick this season could actually be decent if Clippers continue to flutter.


Both the 2024 and 2025 secound round picks courtesy of the Pat Bev/Thomas Bryant trade which also netted us Mo Bamba.


https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D4E12AQHUcaFRn2m_gw/article-inline_image-shrink_400_744/0/1669083847362?e=1704931200&v=beta&t=_zHedgfaHtvscNAcydcFVUwxkmdQ_okmscJjDZ698KA
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:33 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Bones already getting screwed over for Harden.


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Ty Lue informed Bones Hyland that he will not be in the rotation for the ‘foreseeable future,’ per
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(Via https://bit.ly/3ML3hSd)
https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1724840203863425195


Sheet, I'd take him off their hands.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:46 pm    Post subject:

Lamar's Bud wrote:
Megaton wrote:
nomoreshaq wrote:
Clippers Draft Assets

2024 1st -> unprotected to OKC
2024 2nd -> unprotected to LAL

2025 1st->swap to OKC
2025 2nd-> unprotected to LAL

2026 1st->to OKC
2026 2nd-> unprotected to MEM/HOU

2027 1st->swap rights to OKC
2027 2nd->unprotected to Atlanta

2028 1st->unprotected to Philly
2028 2nd->unprotected to Charlotte

2029 1st->pick swap with Philly, protected for picks 1-3
2029 2nd->unprotected to Philly


I didn’t realize we have two Clippers 2nd round picks for the next couple of years.

That 2nd round pick this season could actually be decent if Clippers continue to flutter.


Both the 2024 and 2025 secound round picks courtesy of the Pat Bev/Thomas Bryant trade which also netted us Mo Bamba.


I love that the Lakers are part of the fleecing of the lowly Clippers. Suck 'em high and dried.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:36 am    Post subject:

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Flippers are doomed, their next 20 games are tough. They will probably be 5-15 in that stretch if they will still have no chemistry

Grizz - W
Nuggets - L
Rockets - L
Spurs - W
Spurs - L
Pelicans - L
Mavs -L
Nuggets -L
Kings - L
Warriors - L
Warriors - L
Blazers - W
Kings -L
Warriors -L
Knicks -L
Pacers -L
Mavs - L
Thunder - W
Celtics - L
Hornets - W


Ballmer will fire everyone and blow it tf up, then. He won't go into the new arena with a legacy like that.


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I even marked this game as a win. smh

jeesh Harden -28


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1-2

need a game winner to win vs rockets lol
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:24 am    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
MJST wrote:
Bones already getting screwed over for Harden.


NBACentral
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Ty Lue informed Bones Hyland that he will not be in the rotation for the ‘foreseeable future,’ per
@ChrisBHaynes


(Via https://bit.ly/3ML3hSd)
https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1724840203863425195


Sheet, I'd take him off their hands.


Nah. Just another Lou Williams who is played off the court.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:12 pm    Post subject:

lakersfever714 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
I must admit they looked better last night.

Crazy Westbrook led the team in +/- and they had a 99-91 lead, until Lue decided to bench him for Harden.


Benching Westbrook for Harden had nothing to do with the loss, going small against Jokic determined the loss.


Damn…and Murray didn’t even play!


Clippers are so done...lol. No draft picks going into a new arena. And they're stuck with Brick and Harden because those guys have no trade value atm. I almost feel sorry for them.


They still have Kawaii and PG plus a deep bench. They are going to be hard to beat come playoff time.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:09 pm    Post subject:

Still funny to me how they spun the benching. Clippers organization doing everything in their power to attract players.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:32 pm    Post subject:

I still think it is crazy that the Lakers and Clippers have never played in a playoff series while both teams play at Staples Center/Crypto Arena


Ironically, the highest chance of this matchup happen was in the bubble (Not in LA lol) then the Clippers choked a 3-1 lead.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:06 am    Post subject:

They are phasing Russ out just like the Lakers did.

Russ did not speak to the media on Friday night. Sound familiar?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:46 am    Post subject:

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They are phasing Russ out just like the Lakers did.

Russ did not speak to the media on Friday night. Sound familiar?

Lol
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:52 am    Post subject:

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They are phasing Russ out just like the Lakers did.

Russ did not speak to the media on Friday night. Sound familiar?


Do they have any 2nd rd pick left to trade Russ?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:48 pm    Post subject:

leking006 wrote:
leking006 wrote:
leking006 wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
leking006 wrote:
Flippers are doomed, their next 20 games are tough. They will probably be 5-15 in that stretch if they will still have no chemistry

Grizz - W
Nuggets - L
Rockets - L
Spurs - W
Spurs - L
Pelicans - L
Mavs -L
Nuggets -L
Kings - L
Warriors - L
Warriors - L
Blazers - W
Kings -L
Warriors -L
Knicks -L
Pacers -L
Mavs - L
Thunder - W
Celtics - L
Hornets - W


Ballmer will fire everyone and blow it tf up, then. He won't go into the new arena with a legacy like that.


0-1
I even marked this game as a win. smh

jeesh Harden -28


0-2


1-2

need a game winner to win vs rockets lol


History repeated itself
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:53 am    Post subject:

https://x.com/ladeig/status/1719904616928956724?s=46&t=LZLzjVPmosqPbICOlCZLnQ

Just saw this.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:32 pm    Post subject:

Never fails... every year since Leonard.

*The Clippers are one of the favorites.
*The Clippers are scary.
*Well run organization
*Ballmer has the money. Jeanie is poor.

Followed by Clippers failing to accomplish anything as always.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:18 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Never fails... every year since Leonard.

*The Clippers are one of the favorites.
*The Clippers are scary.
*Well run organization
*Ballmer has the money. Jeanie is poor.

Followed by Clippers failing to accomplish anything as always.


The Clippers were so much more likeable during the Elton Brand/Lamar Odom/Corey Maggette era and the Baron Davis/Zach Randolph era. You never expected them to win anything, so it became fun to cheer for them as sort of an underdog and second LA team. Now it’s the opposite.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:59 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
leking006 wrote:
leking006 wrote:
leking006 wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
leking006 wrote:
Flippers are doomed, their next 20 games are tough. They will probably be 5-15 in that stretch if they will still have no chemistry

Grizz - W
Nuggets - L
Rockets - L
Spurs - W
Spurs - L
Pelicans - L
Mavs -L
Nuggets -L
Kings - L
Warriors - L
Warriors - L
Blazers - W
Kings -L
Warriors -L
Knicks -L
Pacers -L
Mavs - L
Thunder - W
Celtics - L
Hornets - W


Ballmer will fire everyone and blow it tf up, then. He won't go into the new arena with a legacy like that.


0-1
I even marked this game as a win. smh

jeesh Harden -28


0-2


1-2

need a game winner to win vs rockets lol


History repeated itself


Thanks, VCF.
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