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The Chiefs were dramatically defeated. No officials came to their rescue. That sound thrashing should put to rest the favoritism of the Chiefs rhetoric. The Chiefs lost to the better team on the field not on shaded calls. Congrats Steagles.
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| After last nights thumping, Jalen Hurts has now won at the highest levels. NCAA champion and Super Bowl champion. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | After last nights thumping, Jalen Hurts has now won at the highest levels. NCAA champion and Super Bowl champion. |
Would you call Hurts a "game manager" or an "elite quarterback?" His passing is sorely underrated. That's because he has Saquon Barkley. When they shut Saquon down in the Super Bowl he tossed dimes. He can run when needed. He does what's needed to win. He got a bad rep because he only completed 3 of his 8 attempts leading to a benching in a championship game and was replaced by Tau Tagovailoa. IIRC Hurts has made it to 2 Super Bowls and given winning performances in both. I rate him lower elite.
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | NFL teams should all study the Bucs and Eagles Super Bowls vs the Chiefs to figure out how to stop Mahomes. |
I don't think there was any great mystery to that last night. If he has no protection, he is as vulnerable as any other quarterback who has little time or avenue of escape. He really didn't get anything done until garbage time.
It will be more interesting to see how the Chiefs regroup. After last year's SB and going into this season, there was lots of talk of how they were dominant and bound to threepeat; possibly even four/fivepeat.
But this season they really weren't that team. They had a great record, but the record didn't really indicate how hard they had to scrap for it. Almost all their games were close, and they were absolutely lucky to come away with a couple of those wins. I think they were exposed by the end of the season.
So I think it's more a matter of what are the Chiefs going to do to try and get back to being the team that leaves other team's guessing about how to take them on.
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| It's too bad they are at least two better teams in the AFC that could have made it a more competitive game. The Chiefs had a misleading record, brought about by luck, that resulted in homefield advantage, but I think it's clear now that the Ravens and Bills were better prepared to challenge the Eagles. |
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| Wilt wrote: | | It's too bad they are at least two better teams in the AFC that could have made it a more competitive game. The Chiefs had a misleading record, brought about by luck, that resulted in homefield advantage, but I think it's clear now that the Ravens and Bills were better prepared to challenge the Eagles. |
No doubt. The Chiefs definitely underperformed and underachieved this season, and the big game was anti-climactic for sure . . . but damn was it fun to see the Chiefs go down like that. 
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| jodeke wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | After last nights thumping, Jalen Hurts has now won at the highest levels. NCAA champion and Super Bowl champion. |
Would you call Hurts a "game manager" or an "elite quarterback?" His passing is sorely underrated. That's because he has Saquon Barkley. When they shut Saquon down in the Super Bowl he tossed dimes. He can run when needed. He does what's needed to win. He got a bad rep because he only completed 3 of his 8 attempts leading to a benching in a championship game and was replaced by Tau Tagovailoa. IIRC Hurts has made it to 2 Super Bowls and given winning performances in both. I rate him lower elite. |
I think he's underappreciated because he isn't as flashy as other QB's. But he's shown he gets the job done at all levels. |
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| Wilt wrote: | | It's too bad they are at least two better teams in the AFC that could have made it a more competitive game. The Chiefs had a misleading record, brought about by luck, that resulted in homefield advantage, but I think it's clear now that the Ravens and Bills were better prepared to challenge the Eagles. |
You're right. This was a disappointing Super Bowl. The Chiefs were exposed. My want to witness history was completely dismantled by the Eagles. I did get some satisfaction because Saquon got a ring. Maybe Jalen has earned some due respect. Next season will be interesting. Who will make the best adjustments?
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i dont know how the chiefs were exposed- eagles are really deep- all year we heard how they had the most talent- had the best RB. They were better and more talented all year. Its just that ravens and bill have flaws. eagles dont have a single chink in the armor. What this game told us was to build the D-line with big, fast guys .
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After winning Super Bowl LIX, the Eagles are the favorites to win Super Bowl LX as well. Philadelphia has opened as a +600 favorite to win the 2026 Super Bowl, via DraftKings. If they win LX, here we go again. I'll get back on the I want to witness history train again.
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| jodeke wrote: | | After winning Super Bowl LIX, the Eagles are the favorites to win Super Bowl LX as well. Philadelphia has opened as a +600 favorite to win the 2026 Super Bowl, via DraftKings. If they win LX, here we go again. I'll get back on the I want to witness history train again. |
If they win the same way they made and won the superbowl this year (without referee assistance). I'll be happy for them to win another.
I've seen your previous posts. And you view this blowout as proof the refs weren't helping the Chiefs.
I view the blowout differently. I see it as proof the Chiefs shouldn't have even made the Superbowl in the first place (the refs shouldn't have helped them, and the AFC would've had a better representative).
The $ people are happy either way. The Chiefs made the big game and people tuned in. Even if they weren't expecting the blowout.
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| kikanga wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | After winning Super Bowl LIX, the Eagles are the favorites to win Super Bowl LX as well. Philadelphia has opened as a +600 favorite to win the 2026 Super Bowl, via DraftKings. If they win LX, here we go again. I'll get back on the I want to witness history train again. |
If they win the same way they made and won the superbowl this year (without referee assistance). I'll be happy for them to win another.
I've seen your previous posts. And you view this blowout as proof the refs weren't helping the Chiefs.
I view the blowout differently. I see it as proof the Chiefs shouldn't have even made the Superbowl in the first place (the refs shouldn't have helped them, and the AFC would've had a better representative).
The $ people are happy either way. The Chiefs made the big game and people tuned in. Even if they weren't expecting the blowout. |
I'm not on the conspiracy bus. I cannot fathom the scandal and loss of revenue getting caught at fixing would cost the BUSINESS. I don't think the $ people would risk losing those $. Maybe officials got "caught up" and leaned to the Chiefs but I don't think it was planned.
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| Halflife wrote: | | i dont know how the chiefs were exposed- eagles are really deep- all year we heard how they had the most talent- had the best RB. They were better and more talented all year. Its just that ravens and bill have flaws. eagles dont have a single chink in the armor. What this game told us was to build the D-line with big, fast guys . |
Not a huge NFL follower but put money on the Eagles. You look at their lineup and they're absolutely loaded with almost weaknesses.
The biggest takeaway for me was (and I harp on it all the time discussing basketball/MLB) was their point differential for the season. It was a pedestrian +59 which indicates a team is barely a few games above .500. That's a wild card, first round out team at best. They won so many close games throughout the season and their luck (refs) was bound to run out when they faced a bully.
They got bullied.
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| governator wrote: | | They need to figure out how to put out stadium level hip hop performances, I mean, from Dre, Snoop, fifty, now Lamar, could be so so much better |
Maybe mix in an actual musician once in a while. JayZ botching it badly.
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I'm not into hip-hop. I rewatched Kendrick Lamar's halftime show on YouTube through a different lens. It was a performance laced with messages. Some messages were relevant. I wasn't aware of the Drake drama. The choreography was well done. I've changed my opinion. Good halftime show. šš¾š“š¾
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From elsewhere regarding the significance of the halftime show:
| Quote: | I am copying and pasting the words of Ektors Ehnigmah who summarized the meaning and I will post the link to the half-time show in my comments. It is worth watching many, many times.
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"This halftime show was one of the most intellectually message filled performances in the history of the NFL. So much so that, it went over most peopleās heads. It did require some prerequisite knowledge, as well as, an understanding to look for inferences submerged at every point of the performance. For example, he said, āthe revolution is about to be televised, you picked the right time but the wrong guy,ā which was strictly political in reference to the current president. Meaning itās the right time for all to stand up and be recognized but that was not the guy to represent the change.
Personally, I think the NFL chose a hard messenger in light of being forced to remove āend racismā from the fields and also, taking a stance on dei. Another example being when he said, ātheyāre trying to strike a chord, and itās probably A MINOR*, theyāre not like us, theyāre not like us.ā Referencing the cultural divide that continues on to this day. Or when he and performers say to āsquabble up,ā which refers to a confrontation/challenge faced, and having a readiness to engage in the needed battle, whether physical or metaphorical (addressing our current state of existence in this country).`Show starts off with the greeting from the black Samuel Jackson as Uncle Sam. The irony in that is obvious. Throughout the performance Uncle Samās job is explanatory for the audience, commenting on the delivery of the performance; specifically, what America is willing to accept. Uncle Sam (the United States) telling the performers (the minorities) how they should behave to be accepted. Therefore, he critiques and judges the rapper directly on the show to point this out.
Immediately after Uncle Samās appearance there are shapes shown on the ground. They are a reference to a tv show called Squid Games, where people willingly volunteer to play childrenās games and the losers are killed (the Great American Game as Uncle Sam outlines in the beginning). Itās also referred to later in the performance where the dancers are inside the X shaped enclosure, talking about peekaboo. Another childās game and cultural reference as people die, as cultures are being Xād out and not fully accepted in society by racism.`Then thereās the American Flag made out by the dancers dressed in the American colors; not coincidentally, all the performers are black doing a performance from a mostly crouched position. Referring to how much of America was built on the backs of slaves (and other minorities) and yet keeping them down throughout much of our history. When the girls start performing their dance and song, Uncle Sam critiques that the message is softened up. And this is pleasing to the masses; to not be so confrontational or angry, which would be more acceptant. I.e. no need to dwell in that horrible history, just let it go." |
* This is actually a reference to the Drake beef, referring to the accusations of him being a poedophile. Lamar loosely referred to in the show when he was having the back and forth with the women dancers about "will he do it?".
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| The only people who were offended by the halftime show were MAGAs. And possibly Drake. |
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| The Super Bowl apparently drew 126 million viewers, making it the most watched program in the United States since the 1969 moon landing. The NFL got what it wanted in getting the Chiefs to the game! |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | The Super Bowl apparently drew 126 million viewers, making it the most watched program in the United States since the 1969 moon landing. The NFL got what it wanted in getting the Chiefs to the game! |
This was the business part of the decision to give the Chiefs favorable treatment once the Travis/Taylor hype started. Goodell knew what he was doing. 
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | The only people who were offended by the halftime show were MAGAs. And possibly Drake. |
I don't know of anyone who was offended but I know a lot of people who thought it sucked big time and was embarrassing for the NFL as it was a blatant flop.
To each his own, if you liked it, good for you.
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Yeah, darn that halftime show that had music and a message, versus a musical medley of Kid Rock, ted Nugent, the Village People, and some spoken word poetry from the guy who played Chachi, while Kevin Sorbo danced with the Qanon shaman, both dressed in Conan the Barbarian garb, in an effort to be the 7th Village person.
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | The only people who were offended by the halftime show were MAGAs. And possibly Drake. |
I don't know of anyone who was offended but I know a lot of people who thought it sucked big time and was embarrassing for the NFL as it was a blatant flop.
To each his own, if you liked it, good for you. |
Well, one thing for sure about the show, it was not a āblatant flopā. Like it or not, the show definitely struck a nerve, or a chord, depending on oneās perspective. The number of people who were devoid of reaction is just about nil. For the most part, people either loved it or hated it.
That halftime show had been one of the hottest topics of discussion since it aired, with people either vociferously commenting about how much they hated it, or others acknowledging its meaning and significance. And as a result, it highlighted one of the many divides in our country at the moment, and certainly drew much attention to it.
So it clearly achieved what it intended, to spark conversation and awareness regarding what we are experiencing socio-politically right now . . . Thatās the antithesis of a flop.
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^Like I said, if you liked it, good for you.
Different strokes for different folks.
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| Wilt wrote: | | It's too bad they are at least two better teams in the AFC that could have made it a more competitive game. The Chiefs had a misleading record, brought about by luck, that resulted in homefield advantage, but I think it's clear now that the Ravens and Bills were better prepared to challenge the Eagles. |
Those two ābetterā teams couldnāt take out the Chiefs. That why they play the games.
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | The Super Bowl apparently drew 126 million viewers, making it the most watched program in the United States since the 1969 moon landing. The NFL got what it wanted in getting the Chiefs to the game! |
I donāt think it matters who plays the game, the Super Bowl is an event. Whoever plays doesnāt matter, it will be watched. Iāve been to many Super Bowl parties but never to a World Series or NBA Finals party.
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