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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:34 pm Post subject:
ChickenStu wrote:
Deshaun Watson is out for the year with a broken shoulder, which needs surgery. He already had a shoulder injury going into last Sunday's game and apparently took a hit in the 2nd quarter which actually fractured the shoulder. He played the entire 2nd half against the Ravens with a fractured shoulder and a high ankle sprain and went 14-14 passing during their comeback win. How odd that he has been mostly terrible since Cleveland got him, he goes out and plays a heroic (in football terms) game to help lead them to a huge win, and now he's done for the year.
They are turning back to the pride of UCLA, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, to start this week against the Steelers. Seems like their season, despite a 6-3 record, is over.
In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet.
You have to feel for Browns fans, who are some of the best and most loyal in sports. I really thought the Browns would make the playoffs this year, and it seems Andrew Berry has done a good job building that roster. But they just cannot ever catch a break. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:56 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
^^^
One thing I know for sure, if Rodgers does come back this season, it won't be to play a series or two and sit then rest of the game.
You know that for sure. Wow. You got any lotto numbers you want to share.
:rolls eyes: Talk about âwowâ.
Having a strong idea about what a player will do after watching them for 17 years is quite different than walking into 7-11 and guessing which numbers will come up in an entirely random numbers game. _________________ "You know it seems the more we talk about it, it only makes it worse to live without it."
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:02 pm Post subject:
slavavov wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
Deshaun Watson is out for the year with a broken shoulder, which needs surgery. He already had a shoulder injury going into last Sunday's game and apparently took a hit in the 2nd quarter which actually fractured the shoulder. He played the entire 2nd half against the Ravens with a fractured shoulder and a high ankle sprain and went 14-14 passing during their comeback win. How odd that he has been mostly terrible since Cleveland got him, he goes out and plays a heroic (in football terms) game to help lead them to a huge win, and now he's done for the year.
They are turning back to the pride of UCLA, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, to start this week against the Steelers. Seems like their season, despite a 6-3 record, is over.
In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet.
You have to feel for Browns fans, who are some of the best and most loyal in sports. I really thought the Browns would make the playoffs this year, and it seems Andrew Berry has done a good job building that roster. But they just cannot ever catch a break.
Watson wasn't playing all that well until that game. It's a shame he had to get hurt. The outlandish contract jinx raises its ugly head. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:10 pm Post subject:
Joe Cool is questionable. Watching him shake his head when he tried to throw the ball on the sideline it didn't look good. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:01 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
^^^
One thing I know for sure, if Rodgers does come back this season, it won't be to play a series or two and sit then rest of the game.
You know that for sure. Wow. You got any lotto numbers you want to share.
:rolls eyes: Talk about âwowâ.
Having a strong idea about what a player will do after watching them for 17 years is quite different than walking into 7-11 and guessing which numbers will come up in an entirely random numbers game.
OH, It's a strong idea not for sure. OK. Whoosh...You didn't catch the lotto number sarcasm? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:08 pm Post subject:
OBJ is rounding into shape. He's made some good catches and RAC tonight. He was in the x-ray room. He fell on his left shoulder. He was wearing a sleeve on it at game time. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:35 pm Post subject:
Just beginning to look like a lost year for a good Bengals team. They start 1-3 because Burrow is a shell of himself at the start of the season with the calf injury. Then as he gets healthy, they right the ship and get it to 5-3 and seemingly well-positioned for another legit run. Then Higgins goes down, then Sam Hubbard (arguably their most important run defender and one of their key pass rushers too) goes down, and now Burrow is almost certainly going to either miss games or be limited once again. Like Buffalo, they are 5-5 with a tough schedule remaining, but at least Buffalo has Josh Allen relatively healthy. (He did tweak a shoulder a few weeks ago.) I can tell you this: Cincy has no hope with Jake Browning at QB, who is truly awful. If Burrow does miss 3-4 games, Cincy will likely be 5-8 or 5-9, and then you might have to ask the question as to whether or not it's worth it to bring Burrow back this season at all. On the other hand, if he could somehow play next week, I'm sure they will do everything they can to win, since it's not like 5-5 is out of it if Burrow can actually play.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:15 am Post subject:
Mark Andrews is likely done for the season after injury due to the hip-drop tackle. It will be interesting to see if the NFL tries to push forward with a ban on the move, because what the NFL really needs is another tough judgment call for the officials to wrestle with, right? _________________ "You know it seems the more we talk about it, it only makes it worse to live without it."
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:18 am Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Mark Andrews is likely done for the season after injury due to the hip-drop tackle. It will be interesting to see if the NFL tries to push forward with a ban on the move, because what the NFL really needs is another tough judgment call for the officials to wrestle with, right?
That was a debate issue on FirstTake this morning
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America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:03 pm Post subject:
Wilt wrote:
Burrow out for the season. Torn ligament in his wrist.
Yep. Because they are playing a team in the Steelers next week with a QB almost as bad as Browning, they'll probably think they can win that one. But if they drop to 5-6 and when they face teams with actual functioning QB's, the Bengals are going to be figuratively gasping for air. Their best play is to tank, but they won't do that because most NFL teams have too much pride for that, and there are too many vets in that locker room. Honestly, though, in looking at their remaining schedule, there aren't any obvious wins on the schedule, though home games against Pittsburgh, Indy, Minnesota, and Cleveland could give them their best shots at victories. All 4 of those teams also have backup QB's now starting for them, although in Minnesota's case, I think we can safely say that Dobbs is playing at the level of a capable starter. Maybe they win something like 2 of those 4 games.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:24 pm Post subject:
ChickenStu wrote:
Wilt wrote:
Burrow out for the season. Torn ligament in his wrist.
Yep. Because they are playing a team in the Steelers next week with a QB almost as bad as Browning, they'll probably think they can win that one. But if they drop to 5-6 and when they face teams with actual functioning QB's, the Bengals are going to be figuratively gasping for air. Their best play is to tank, but they won't do that because most NFL teams have too much pride for that, and there are too many vets in that locker room. Honestly, though, in looking at their remaining schedule, there aren't any obvious wins on the schedule, though home games against Pittsburgh, Indy, Minnesota, and Cleveland could give them their best shots at victories. All 4 of those teams also have backup QB's now starting for them, although in Minnesota's case, I think we can safely say that Dobbs is playing at the level of a capable starter. Maybe they win something like 2 of those 4 games.
I wouldn't count Pittsburgh out because of Mike Tomlin. He's a coach who can get the most out of the least. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:48 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
Wilt wrote:
Burrow out for the season. Torn ligament in his wrist.
Yep. Because they are playing a team in the Steelers next week with a QB almost as bad as Browning, they'll probably think they can win that one. But if they drop to 5-6 and when they face teams with actual functioning QB's, the Bengals are going to be figuratively gasping for air. Their best play is to tank, but they won't do that because most NFL teams have too much pride for that, and there are too many vets in that locker room. Honestly, though, in looking at their remaining schedule, there aren't any obvious wins on the schedule, though home games against Pittsburgh, Indy, Minnesota, and Cleveland could give them their best shots at victories. All 4 of those teams also have backup QB's now starting for them, although in Minnesota's case, I think we can safely say that Dobbs is playing at the level of a capable starter. Maybe they win something like 2 of those 4 games.
I wouldn't count Pittsburgh out because of Mike Tomlin. He's a coach who can get the most out of the least.
Pittsburgh is winning with smoke and mirrors. They have no QB, although they can run it a little bit this year with Warren's emergence and the OL improvements through free agency and the draft. But yeah, they have no QB. Then on defense, they are leaky against both the run and the pass! They get outgained in literally every game. And yet, something always works out in their favor. They'll create a turnover or a big defensive play. Or the other team will miss a FG at a big moment. Or Pickett will actually make a nice throw for once deep in the 4th quarter to pull out a win. It just seems to work out for them. They have to be the worst "winning" team I've ever seen. And now they get to face a backup QB this week (DTR for the Browns) and another one next week in Browning for the Bengals. They might be 7-3 and suck, no joke. They'll probably make the playoffs, but I would argue that they literally have no chance whatsoever to win the Super Bowl. Sorry, but Kenny Pickett is not winning 4 playoff games. No chance.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:06 pm Post subject:
ChickenStu wrote:
jodeke wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
Wilt wrote:
Burrow out for the season. Torn ligament in his wrist.
Yep. Because they are playing a team in the Steelers next week with a QB almost as bad as Browning, they'll probably think they can win that one. But if they drop to 5-6 and when they face teams with actual functioning QB's, the Bengals are going to be figuratively gasping for air. Their best play is to tank, but they won't do that because most NFL teams have too much pride for that, and there are too many vets in that locker room. Honestly, though, in looking at their remaining schedule, there aren't any obvious wins on the schedule, though home games against Pittsburgh, Indy, Minnesota, and Cleveland could give them their best shots at victories. All 4 of those teams also have backup QB's now starting for them, although in Minnesota's case, I think we can safely say that Dobbs is playing at the level of a capable starter. Maybe they win something like 2 of those 4 games.
I wouldn't count Pittsburgh out because of Mike Tomlin. He's a coach who can get the most out of the least.
Pittsburgh is winning with smoke and mirrors. They have no QB, although they can run it a little bit this year with Warren's emergence and the OL improvements through free agency and the draft. But yeah, they have no QB. Then on defense, they are leaky against both the run and the pass! They get outgained in literally every game. And yet, something always works out in their favor. They'll create a turnover or a big defensive play. Or the other team will miss a FG at a big moment. Or Pickett will actually make a nice throw for once deep in the 4th quarter to pull out a win. It just seems to work out for them. They have to be the worst "winning" team I've ever seen. And now they get to face a backup QB this week (DTR for the Browns) and another one next week in Browning for the Bengals. They might be 7-3 and suck, no joke. They'll probably make the playoffs, but I would argue that they literally have no chance whatsoever to win the Super Bowl. Sorry, but Kenny Pickett is not winning 4 playoff games. No chance.
The Steelers remind me of a honey badger, they don't give up. I attribute that to coaching. Mike Tomlin gets more out of the least than any coach in the NFL. I don't think they'll win the SB, they may not make the playoffs. I'm only saying don't count them out against Buffalo. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:37 pm Post subject:
^
Tomlin is a miracle worker. As bad as he may be on coach's challenges and time management/timeouts, it's really difficult to argue with his results. Unfortunately for them, it's hard to see Pickett as the answer, so they will likely have to go hunting for a new QB in another year or two.
Just brutal for the Bengals losing Burrow for the season, but this season just didn't feel like theirs right from training camp with his injury and such.
I think it is either KC or Baltimore in the Super Bowl this year from the AFC.
From the NFC, it feels like SF or Philly, but you never know if Dallas might spoil the party. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny
- Tom Brady and the Patriots
- Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs
Everything else is mostly random and injuries play a big part in why you can't predict anything. NFL pundits predict what's gonna happen every week but none of them ever called out for being wrong about most of it. _________________ ÂĄHala Madrid!
Feels like the AFC is gonna have to pass thru the Chiefs once again. And even if Philly goes back to the Super Bowl for a rematch I would hesitate to favor them if they were playing the defending Super Bowl champs.
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:30 am Post subject:
I've been trying to not talk NFL. Because I'm a Lamar Jackson fan. And I don't want to jinx it.
They've had good first 1/2 of seasons lately, that didn't turn into playoff success.
And that Mark Andrews injury hurts. _________________ When the world grows. Grow with it.
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:31 am Post subject:
^^ Lamar is showing he's not just a scrambling QB. He's been throwing darts and downfield passes with surprising accuracy. I hate that Burrow went down again. Cincy's chances went down with him. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves.
^
Tomlin is a miracle worker. As bad as he may be on coach's challenges and time management/timeouts, it's really difficult to argue with his results. Unfortunately for them, it's hard to see Pickett as the answer, so they will likely have to go hunting for a new QB in another year or two.
The strange thing is that in Pittsburgh, Tomlin gets a lot of criticism from the fan base.
The national narrative is more correct in that he clearly is one of the best head coaches in the league, I have no idea how this team is 6-3.
Pittsburgh is such a well run organization, they don't let the outside noise get to them.
Think about this stat which is unbelievable to me:
The Steelers have had three head coaches since 1969. Doing the math, that is three head coaches total for them in the last 54 years! _________________ Love, Laker Lanny
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:47 pm Post subject:
LakerLanny wrote:
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The strange thing is that in Pittsburgh, Tomlin gets a lot of criticism from the fan base.
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Mike Tomlin coaching tree
Does anyyone find it stunning that Mike Tomlin has been the Steelers coach since 2007 and has no coaching tree? I mean itâs almost impossible to do. Is there another HC in the history of the NFL that has coached for 15 plus years with one team without ever having a coaching tree? Even Arians was a rollover from the Cowher years. Maybe Iâm missing someone?
This isnât a Mike Tomlin problem anymore. This is a Rooney problem. They have allowed this once proud organization to be mired in mediocrity. We used to never have players go to other franchises and get better. Now itâs commonplace and happens more often that not. Thatâs a problem. A big problem.
I think Mike Tomlin is a great dude. Hell I would even support the Steelers keeping him if they would hire excellent coordinators. But they donât! Coordinators either die under Tomlin or were never worth a damn to begin with. Internal and external, their hires are horrible. And these are the people coaching and âdevelopingâ our players? No wonder we are so damn mediocre every year. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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