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| jodeke wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Mike McCarthy out as Head Coach in Dallas. |
Coaches are not the Cowboys problem, Jerry Jones is. The Cowboys job is a prestigious one but any coach who takes it will be handcuffed by Jerry. Who will be his next puppet?
Cowboys will not bring back head coach Mike McCarthy, reports say
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Yeah- but jerry was great on Landman and clearly breaks down why the cowboys are a family business. It made sense it just doesn't lead to winning.
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | anyone notice this is happening in all major four sports. teams with rich history, family ownerships, outdated management team are struggling, or having no future in sight.
NFL: cowboys, steelers, Giants, Raiders
MLB: Yankees (sure they came off a WS, but their future is bleak)
NBA: Lakers, Heat
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Not sure where youāre getting that the Yankees future is ābleakāā¦such a weird take since none of the AL east teams got better than the yanks in the offseason, which means more playoffs for the all time leader in playoff appearancesā¦I get that dodger fans want to brag theyāre better than the Yanks, but to then speak for the yanks as if they follow all their offseason moves is kind of silly.
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In other more sane news, most people are thinking next weekās bills ravens game is basically going to be the Super Bowl.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Mike McCarthy out as Head Coach in Dallas. |
Coaches are not the Cowboys problem, Jerry Jones is. The Cowboys job is a prestigious one but any coach who takes it will be handcuffed by Jerry. Who will be his next puppet?
Cowboys will not bring back head coach Mike McCarthy, reports say
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Yeah- but jerry was great on Landman and clearly breaks down why the cowboys are a family business. It made sense it just doesn't lead to winning. |
Your post has me watching Landman. The 1st episode was good.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| eddiejonze wrote: | | In other more sane news, most people are thinking next weekās bills ravens game is basically going to be the Super Bowl. |
I don't know about that. People are once again counting out Mahomes and the Chiefs. Count out Mahomes at your own risk -- he has the same aura of inevitability that Tom Brady, Jordan and Kobe had.
In the NFC, I think the Eagles are the best team and have a real shot at winning it all as long as Jalen Hurts' passing game is there. I also feel the Rams are a serious dark horse team.
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Jerry Jones supposedly wants to talk to Deon Sanders. I don't think that's a fit. Deon's personality doesn't seem like he'll be dictated to.
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People like to call out college football for their playoff selection system and the results, but the NFL system is yielding equally pathetic match ups. Almost half the teams in this yearās first weekend played like they have no business being in the post season. I know Iād rather have seen Burrow and the Bengals more than most of these teams.
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| jodeke wrote: | | Jerry Jones supposedly wants to talk to Deon Sanders. I don't think that's a fit. Deon's personality doesn't seem like he'll be dictated to. |
Jerruh wants a yes man. I think if Deion wants an NFL job he'll be a better fit for the Raiders. |
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| jodeke wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Mike McCarthy out as Head Coach in Dallas. |
Coaches are not the Cowboys problem, Jerry Jones is. The Cowboys job is a prestigious one but any coach who takes it will be handcuffed by Jerry. Who will be his next puppet?
Cowboys will not bring back head coach Mike McCarthy, reports say
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McCarthy was definitely one of the problems. Jones needs to realize that itās 2025.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Mike McCarthy out as Head Coach in Dallas. |
Coaches are not the Cowboys problem, Jerry Jones is. The Cowboys job is a prestigious one but any coach who takes it will be handcuffed by Jerry. Who will be his next puppet?
Cowboys will not bring back head coach Mike McCarthy, reports say
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McCarthy was definitely one of the problems. Jones needs to realize that itās 2025. |
Then you might be dismayed to learn that the Bears are interviewing McCarthy tomorrow. |
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He's not in the running but I think Belichick would be just what the doctor ordered for the Cowboys. He does not want to talk to the press. He's Bill Belichick, that alone will get the respect of the locker room. Jerry wouldn't intimidate him.
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| jodeke wrote: | | He's not in the running but I think Belichick would be what the doctored for the Cowboys. He does not want to talk to the press. He's Bill Belichick, that alone will get the respect of the locker room. Jerry wouldn't intimidate him. |
I will guess that the next Cowboys head coach will be Kellen Moore. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | He's not in the running but I think Belichick would be what the doctored for the Cowboys. He does not want to talk to the press. He's Bill Belichick, that alone will get the respect of the locker room. Jerry wouldn't intimidate him. |
I will guess that the next Cowboys head coach will be Kellen Moore. |
Eagles' Kellen Moore addresses ties to Cowboys' 2025 head coaching vacancy
Moore played and coached for Dallas in the past
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| Quote: | | "I mean, obviously I spent a lot of time there," Moore told reporters when asked if he'd be interested in the Cowboys' top job. "[I spent] eight years there. So obviously I have plenty of relationships about that place. [But] I love it here, I've had so much fun here, and it's been a really fun process, and we're in a really special situation right now, getting a chance to play this Sunday and have a chance to make a run at this thing, and that's really all you worry about. Everything else is what it is, and we'll see where it takes [me]." |
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Every year.
Like clockwork.
Underachieving teams poach offensive and defensive coordinators from top teams to be a head coach next year.
I know this thread has alot of smart NFL people.
Is there any conventional wisdom on which way is the best to go for underachieving teams (Talent > current win-loss record).
Is it team specific? Are offensive coordinators from great teams more valuable than defensive coordinators? Or vice versa?
Are re-treads of past head coaches better than the current coordinators?
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| kikanga wrote: | Every year.
Like clockwork.
Underachieving teams poach offensive and defensive coordinators from top teams to be a head coach next year.
I know this thread has alot of smart NFL people.
Is there any conventional wisdom on which way is the best to go for underachieving teams (Talent > current win-loss record).
Is it team specific? Are offensive coordinators from great teams more valuable than defensive coordinators? Or vice versa?
Are re-treads of past head coaches better than the current coordinators? |
Green Bay has the QB formula, the Steelers have the coach formula, the Lions have the offensive line formula, the Jets have the defensive line formula. Combine all.
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| jodeke wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | He's not in the running but I think Belichick would be what the doctored for the Cowboys. He does not want to talk to the press. He's Bill Belichick, that alone will get the respect of the locker room. Jerry wouldn't intimidate him. |
I will guess that the next Cowboys head coach will be Kellen Moore. |
Eagles' Kellen Moore addresses ties to Cowboys' 2025 head coaching vacancy
Moore played and coached for Dallas in the past
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| Quote: | | "I mean, obviously I spent a lot of time there," Moore told reporters when asked if he'd be interested in the Cowboys' top job. "[I spent] eight years there. So obviously I have plenty of relationships about that place. [But] I love it here, I've had so much fun here, and it's been a really fun process, and we're in a really special situation right now, getting a chance to play this Sunday and have a chance to make a run at this thing, and that's really all you worry about. Everything else is what it is, and we'll see where it takes [me]." |
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| jodeke wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | Every year.
Like clockwork.
Underachieving teams poach offensive and defensive coordinators from top teams to be a head coach next year.
I know this thread has alot of smart NFL people.
Is there any conventional wisdom on which way is the best to go for underachieving teams (Talent > current win-loss record).
Is it team specific? Are offensive coordinators from great teams more valuable than defensive coordinators? Or vice versa?
Are re-treads of past head coaches better than the current coordinators? |
Green Bay has the Q formula, the Steelers have the coach formula, the Lions have the offensive line formula, the Jets have the defensive line formula. Combine all. |
I'd argue that the Eagles have the DL formula much more than the Jets do. Actually, the Jets' entire defense collapsed after they fired Robert Saleh, a defensive guru. I think that Saleh was out of his depth with time management issues and he doesn't know dick about offense, but he's probably a top-5 defensive mind in all of football. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | Every year.
Like clockwork.
Underachieving teams poach offensive and defensive coordinators from top teams to be a head coach next year.
I know this thread has alot of smart NFL people.
Is there any conventional wisdom on which way is the best to go for underachieving teams (Talent > current win-loss record).
Is it team specific? Are offensive coordinators from great teams more valuable than defensive coordinators? Or vice versa?
Are re-treads of past head coaches better than the current coordinators? |
Green Bay has the Q formula, the Steelers have the coach formula, the Lions have the offensive line formula, the Jets have the defensive line formula. Combine all. |
I'd argue that the Eagles have the DL formula much more than the Jets do. Actually, the Jets' entire defense collapsed after they fired Robert Saleh, a defensive guru. I think that Saleh was out of his depth with time management issues and he doesn't know dick about offense, but he's probably a top-5 defensive mind in all of football. |
OK. Maybe organizations shouldn't hire the coach but adopt the strategies of the best of the best at their positions. That's what I'm talking about.
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Mike McCarthy out as Head Coach in Dallas. |
Coaches are not the Cowboys problem, Jerry Jones is. The Cowboys job is a prestigious one but any coach who takes it will be handcuffed by Jerry. Who will be his next puppet?
Cowboys will not bring back head coach Mike McCarthy, reports say
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McCarthy was definitely one of the problems. Jones needs to realize that itās 2025. |
Then you might be dismayed to learn that the Bears are interviewing McCarthy tomorrow. |
The McCaskey family needs to realize that itās 2025.
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| jodeke wrote: | | the Jets have the defensive line formula. |
I thought the Jets suck at everything
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| kikanga wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | the Jets have the defensive line formula. |
I thought the Jets suck at everything |
The New York Jets are ranked as the No. 2 defense in the NFL by Bleacher Report. Their defensive line is ranked No. 1 across all defensive position groups, while their secondary is ranked No. 4
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NFL Divisional Round Playoffs
Saturday
Houston at Kansas City -8.5
Washington at Detroit -9.5
Sunday
Los Angeles Rams at Philadelphia -6
Baltimore at Buffalo +1.5
Houston at Kansas City
Kansas City has been off seemingly forever as far as their starters so you wonder if the health vs. rust thing will come into play. Everyone knows about Andy Reid's brilliance after bye weeks though and this is a bye week on steroids.
Houston surprised me last week vs. the Chargers. I felt like Houston was trending down late in the season but they overcame a bad 1st quarter to put a spanking on the Chargers that has me rethinking my prior evaluation of them. They certainly look a lot better with Nico Collins playing, he is the most underrated WR in the league at present.
That said, KC isn't losing at home to Houston. It is expected to be cloudy, cold and breezy (26 degrees or so) in KC for the game but with no precipitation expected. Look for Mahomes to convert key first downs on scrambles and control the tempo and clock.
Prediction: Kansas City wins but doesn't cover. KC 24, Houston 17
Washington at Detroit
This one is interesting in that it opened at Detroit -5.5 and now is all the way up to Detroit -9.5. The opening line seemed crazy low there but 9.5 feels like a lot of points to give a Washington team lead by Jayden Daniels.
Detroit is so well coached and they have the warrior mindset. A lot of media hacks questioned Dan Campbell playing his starters in a non must win game at SF late in the season with the big game vs Minnesota for all the marbles looming. We know how that turned out.
Washington is so impressive as far as their upward trajectory as a franchise from ownership to the product on the field in one year, it is super impressive. Jayden Daniels continues to amaze with his poise, talent and production and Dan Quinn has really done a nice job.
Prediction: There is a lot to like about Washington and Jayden Daniels. But this is a tough draw, even with Detroit's injuries on defense. Having Anzalone back is huge for Detroit (we saw that vs. Minnesota) and I don't see them going out at home here.
But 9.5 points to cover is going to be a 4th quarter coin flip.
I will go with Detroit to cover, winning the game 31-21.
Sunday predictions to follow tomorrow night after these first two are complete.
Call our shots on these games vs. the spread before they kick off, would be curious to hear your thoughts. Best weekend of NFL Football all year many times!
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I think both home teams will control each game and win, probably easily, but the lines for each game leave open the very real possibility of a backdoor cover. |
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Another step to a 3peat. C.J Stroud has to deal with 22 degrees weather and Patrick Mahomes. The game's enormity may get to C.J. Mahomes has had plenty of time for his ankle to heal. I expect to see him use his legs today GO CHIEFS! Make NFL history. Chiefs and Lions win today.
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