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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:42 pm    Post subject:

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NE wins 25 to 22, largely due to the ineptitude of the NYJ. You could say Zuerlein cost them the game with a missed a 44 yard FG and a missed extra point, but he had plenty of help with weird, ineffectual play calls, sloppy defense, and poor special teams play.


Zuerlien has been brutal this year, he has cost them 2 games outright.

That said, the rest of their team isn't doing enough....you have to blow out New England and they lose to them.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:11 pm    Post subject:

I can't belive how atrocious the Bears are on offense.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:21 pm    Post subject:

William the refrigerator Perry didn't work.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:41 pm    Post subject:

Commanders win on a Hail Mary.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:43 pm    Post subject:

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Commanders win on a Hail Mary.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:45 pm    Post subject:

Lol...Bears gonna bear. They also picked the wrong qb...on brand
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:01 pm    Post subject:

Caleb is going to be fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:03 pm    Post subject:

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Caleb is going to be fine.


I don't think so. He is reckless and not too accurate. He is also small. Worst for him, he is on the Bears.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:02 pm    Post subject:

He started heating up against Washington as the game progressed. And his ability to escape pressure looked pretty good. (I’m a Washington fan by the way.)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:28 pm    Post subject:

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He started heating up against Washington as the game progressed. And his ability to escape pressure looked pretty good. (I’m a Washington fan by the way.)


So you are biased...lol. I think he could be a middle of the pack quarterback and in the right system could be a playoff quarterback. But he is not a franchise type quarterback. He is too much of an anti syatem guy.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:55 pm    Post subject:

I guess he just flashed some things in the game that made me understand why he was drafted so high. He needs a couple of years though.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:57 pm    Post subject:

Niners continue to dominate the Cowboys. It's a great weekend so far, Dodgers, Lakers won and looks like the 49ers will too.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:31 pm    Post subject:

It's almost incomprehensible how badly Kyle Shanahan is screwing up this season. Truly, absolutely stunning. Dude is a 4th quarter choker, whatever happens in this game. Just has no idea how to close out a game.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:31 pm    Post subject:

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Niners continue to dominate the Cowboys. It's a great weekend so far, Dodgers, Lakers won and looks like the 49ers will too.
Hopefully Dallas comes back. Looking like the Rams might take the division
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:52 pm    Post subject:

Nick “POS” Bosa just photobombed the SNL postgame broadcast to show off his MAGA hat . . . Be interesting to see how that plays out.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:09 pm    Post subject:

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ksmgf wrote:
Niners continue to dominate the Cowboys. It's a great weekend so far, Dodgers, Lakers won and looks like the 49ers will too.
Hopefully Dallas comes back. Looking like the Rams might take the division


I get that lots of fellow posters here dislike the Niners but the rooting for Jerry Jones and the Cowboys?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:28 am    Post subject:

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NE wins 25 to 22, largely due to the ineptitude of the NYJ. You could say Zuerlein cost them the game with a missed a 44 yard FG and a missed extra point, but he had plenty of help with weird, ineffectual play calls, sloppy defense, and poor special teams play.


Double Aa is a bust. No excuses. They're done




Rodgers looked good in that previous win over New England, but age has caught up with him in just a matter of weeks. The body gets injured more easily and the healing process slows. Rodgers was moving around like Lurch, he no longer can create plays after escaping the pocket. Yet I don't think it's his quarterbacking that has eroded that team as much as poor leadership. Three candidates spring to mind: Woody Johnson, the idiot owner, Rodgers, the diva, or Ulbrich the current HC who is in over his head. My vote goes to Rodgers as he haughtily abandoned the team's mandatory minicamp, acted openly dismissive towards Saleh on the sidelines, underperformed expectations, and then likely maneuvered to get Saleh fired as he needed a scapegoat.

Rodgers' quarterbacking hasn't caused the defense to be so underwhelming in relation to the talent. Rodgers' quarterbacking hasn't led the special teams into leaving open lanes during kick returns. The entire team looks dysfunctional and sloppy, that's more of a coaching and leadership problem. And that problem looks like it emanated from the conduct and poor leadership of Aaron Rodgers.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:24 am    Post subject:

angrypuppy wrote:
jodeke wrote:
angrypuppy wrote:
NE wins 25 to 22, largely due to the ineptitude of the NYJ. You could say Zuerlein cost them the game with a missed a 44 yard FG and a missed extra point, but he had plenty of help with weird, ineffectual play calls, sloppy defense, and poor special teams play.


Double Aa is a bust. No excuses. They're done




Rodgers looked good in that previous win over New England, but age has caught up with him in just a matter of weeks. The body gets injured more easily and the healing process slows. Rodgers was moving around like Lurch, he no longer can create plays after escaping the pocket. Yet I don't think it's his quarterbacking that has eroded that team as much as poor leadership. Three candidates spring to mind: Woody Johnson, the idiot owner, Rodgers, the diva, or Ulbrich the current HC who is in over his head. My vote goes to Rodgers as he haughtily abandoned the team's mandatory minicamp, acted openly dismissive towards Saleh on the sidelines, underperformed expectations, and then likely maneuvered to get Saleh fired as he needed a scapegoat.

Rodgers' quarterbacking hasn't caused the defense to be so underwhelming in relation to the talent. Rodgers' quarterbacking hasn't led the special teams into leaving open lanes during kick returns. The entire team looks dysfunctional and sloppy, that's more of a coaching and leadership problem. And that problem looks like it emanated from the conduct and poor leadership of Aaron Rodgers.


LeBron Raymone James Sr., Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr., Kobe Bean Bryant, and Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor Jr. are anomalies. Johnny Unitas played in the NFL for 18 seasons, from 1955 to 1974 but after Baltimore, he was a shell of himself. I don't think Aaron has the fortitude of any mentioned. I'll admit I thought his signing with the Jets was a good thing. Watching how it's turned out is accepting reality. To date it's a bust.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:04 pm    Post subject:

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E_Wulf420 wrote:
ksmgf wrote:
Niners continue to dominate the Cowboys. It's a great weekend so far, Dodgers, Lakers won and looks like the 49ers will too.
Hopefully Dallas comes back. Looking like the Rams might take the division


I get that lots of fellow posters here dislike the Niners but the rooting for Jerry Jones and the Cowboys?


Yep. Not a Niners guy but JJ, good God.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:55 am    Post subject:

On Sunday Night's broadcast of the Cowboys Niners game, Niners' Nick Bosa photobombed the postgame to show off his MAGA hat. Despite rules against political statements, nothings has happened.

So taking a knee for BLM gets you banned from the NFL, but sporting a MAGA hat on the field is just fine. I guess the rule isn't "No political statements on the field", it's "No political statements we don't like".

Will NFL fine Nick Bosa for wearing a MAGA hat? What rules say about potential discipline
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:12 am    Post subject:

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NE wins 25 to 22, largely due to the ineptitude of the NYJ. You could say Zuerlein cost them the game with a missed a 44 yard FG and a missed extra point, but he had plenty of help with weird, ineffectual play calls, sloppy defense, and poor special teams play.


Double Aa is a bust. No excuses. They're done




Rodgers looked good in that previous win over New England, but age has caught up with him in just a matter of weeks. The body gets injured more easily and the healing process slows. Rodgers was moving around like Lurch, he no longer can create plays after escaping the pocket. Yet I don't think it's his quarterbacking that has eroded that team as much as poor leadership. Three candidates spring to mind: Woody Johnson, the idiot owner, Rodgers, the diva, or Ulbrich the current HC who is in over his head. My vote goes to Rodgers as he haughtily abandoned the team's mandatory minicamp, acted openly dismissive towards Saleh on the sidelines, underperformed expectations, and then likely maneuvered to get Saleh fired as he needed a scapegoat.

Rodgers' quarterbacking hasn't caused the defense to be so underwhelming in relation to the talent. Rodgers' quarterbacking hasn't led the special teams into leaving open lanes during kick returns. The entire team looks dysfunctional and sloppy, that's more of a coaching and leadership problem. And that problem looks like it emanated from the conduct and poor leadership of Aaron Rodgers.


LeBron Raymone James Sr., Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr., Kobe Bean Bryant, and Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor Jr. are anomalies. Johnny Unitas played in the NFL for 18 seasons, from 1955 to 1974 but after Baltimore, he was a shell of himself. I don't think Aaron has the fortitude of any mentioned. I'll admit I thought his signing with the Jets was a good thing. Watching how it's turned out is accepting reality. To date it's a bust.



While Rodgers peaked years ago, he's still in the "very good" class of QB. I wasn't saying he was over-the-hill, what I'm saying is that the propensity of getting injured increases with age, and the time for healing from injury lengthens. That's why he was moving around so awkwardly as he has hamstring and ankle injuries. He still threw for more than 230 yards, 2 TDs, no INTs, 60% completion rate with only one sack. That's a winning effort.

The problem isn't Rodgers the QB, the problem is coaching and leadership. Rodgers isn't responsible for the defense that has been underwhelming despite individual talent, and he isn't responsible for terrible special teams play. Something isn't right on that team and I suspect a good part of it is Rodgers not assuming positive leadership.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:05 am    Post subject:

Angry puppy: what do you think of the Pats new QB? And how’s Mayo doing so far in your view? I LOVED him as a player and he was a huge acolyte of Bill (who supported him as much as he supported any of his treasured defensive captains), so I’m really intrigued by his potential as a coacch
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Angry puppy: what do you think of the Pats new QB? And how’s Mayo doing so far in your view? I LOVED him as a player and he was a huge acolyte of Bill (who supported him as much as he supported any of his treasured defensive captains), so I’m really intrigued by his potential as a coacch



I thought Maye was the third-best QB (a very distant third to Williams and Daniels) in the draft but I also saw some problems that might be developmental challenges. While he has obvious arm talent his base was inconsistent at at times terrible. If he could improve his footwork he'd deliver the the ball with better distance and accuracy. Another problem was that he had a tendency to lock on to first option which was a poker tell to the DBs. I wasn't sure if that was a processing issue or just the result of limited complimentary talent on the field. Last, he had an alarming tendency to sail some of his passes at deep second or third level.

I'm moderately impressed given the limited action Maye's seen. In the preseason he continued back foot and flat footed passing, but in the game action a couple of weeks ago I noticed much better footwork. That tells me two things: He takes coaching well and can improve his mechanics, and he keeps his head under pressure. What you want to see on a QB during drop backs is whether there is any motion wasted; that the QB is always in position to quickly pass the ball. From the small sample size, he has shown me that he's absorbed the coaching. That's no small feat (homophone pun intended) given the horrible O Line in New England. They are in fact among the worst O Line (if not the very worst) in the NFL as pass protection.

He locked onto his intended target during garbage time in his very first regular season outing, leading to an INT. He has since improved. He now goes through his progressions and notices not only who is open, but also he seems to be processing if the position of the DB, for example if his back is turned to a potential play, let alone how many yards open the WR might be. He still has a tendency to sail passes.

Maye has OK touch, I'd like to see a bit more improvement there. Also his release is longer than I'd like, but that cannot be fixed at this stage. Overall what will inhibit his development is a major concern: That OLine is just awful, like vintage Cleveland awful which is why they're destroyed the development of so many rookie QBs. I think the NE GM is an idiot, with the exception of the most obvious pick at #3 (Maye), Wolf has managed to waste another year by ignoring the OLine while trying to corner the market in mediocre WR3s. Maye was injured during a run play, it wasn't designed, it was simply a product of a porous OLine and WRs who could not get separation. He's going to get clobbered out there as he's forced to run a lot, and he's going to get creamed in the pocket. Those factors can make a QB jumpy, which is what helped ruin his predecessor Mac Jones.

In terms of Mayo, wonderful LB but that hasn't translated well at that HC level.

The NE Patriots won only 4 games last season because of Bill Belichick, the GM. The only reason the NE Patriots managed to win 4 games last season was because of Bill Belichick the Head Coach.

Mayo inherited a terrible roster, and he's nowhere near Belichick as a HC. NE needs 3 or 4 seasons to rebuild so failure is expected. However, what should be a concern was the team seemingly getting worse from week to week on defense, and the awful Special Teams play, which are both Belichick strengths. The have EDGE players who make pressure, hit or sack the QB and thus abandon edge containment. They were great against the run on D last season, now they're bad. They were above average on pass defense, now they're weak. Mayo's selection of Alex Van Pelt was curious given Van Pelts' experience as a play caller, and that is noticeable as the play calls have been awful. The OLine frankly doesn't know how to block as they're confused about assignments and execution, that's on the OLine coach and Van Pelt.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:54 pm    Post subject:

The door is not closed for the Jets but air is barely seeping through the crack.
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Shaq's lost a lot if weight. He looks good.
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