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hype Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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3baller wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | dfchang813 wrote: | Why would OKC help the Clippers make the draft picks they traded TO OKC worse? |
Adding Paul or not, the Clippers picks will be at the back end of the draft. |
If the clippers don't win next season, Kawhi and PG13 could leave as soon as next off season which would give the picks that OKC got more value. |
Yup, pretty much guaranteed there's already some friction there and if they go through another entire season that falls short in the Playoffs I have no doubt that at minimum one leaves but probably both. Clippers would go back to the cellars of the NBA and get absolutely nothing for it since they have no draft picks |
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3baller wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | dfchang813 wrote: | Why would OKC help the Clippers make the draft picks they traded TO OKC worse? |
Adding Paul or not, the Clippers picks will be at the back end of the draft. |
If the clippers don't win next season, Kawhi and PG13 could leave as soon as next off season which would give the picks that OKC got more value. |
Kawhi won’t, he is in SoCal where he wants to be. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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CervantesRises Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | 3baller wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | dfchang813 wrote: | Why would OKC help the Clippers make the draft picks they traded TO OKC worse? |
Adding Paul or not, the Clippers picks will be at the back end of the draft. |
If the clippers don't win next season, Kawhi and PG13 could leave as soon as next off season which would give the picks that OKC got more value. |
Kawhi won’t, he is in SoCal where he wants to be. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | 3baller wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | dfchang813 wrote: | Why would OKC help the Clippers make the draft picks they traded TO OKC worse? |
Adding Paul or not, the Clippers picks will be at the back end of the draft. |
If the clippers don't win next season, Kawhi and PG13 could leave as soon as next off season which would give the picks that OKC got more value. |
Kawhi won’t, he is in SoCal where he wants to be. |
Until he doesn’t. He gets what he wants from teams. He would be nice in az that’s close. |
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LakerMindLA Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Clippers don’t have the salaries to get CP3. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | 3baller wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | dfchang813 wrote: | Why would OKC help the Clippers make the draft picks they traded TO OKC worse? |
Adding Paul or not, the Clippers picks will be at the back end of the draft. |
If the clippers don't win next season, Kawhi and PG13 could leave as soon as next off season which would give the picks that OKC got more value. |
Kawhi won’t, he is in SoCal where he wants to be. |
It doesn’t serve Presti to think that way. The same way that New Orleans has no incentive to help us, OKC has none to help the Clips. |
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PASTOR RILEY Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:07 am Post subject: |
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LakerMindLA wrote: | Clippers don’t have the salaries to get CP3. | Inhope not |
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Harlemlakerfan Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Why would the Thunder help the Clippers be good, when its in their best interest if they are bad, since they own their draft picks for the rest of the century! |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | SAS is full of (bleep) like he usually is. |
Met him in person at Vegas Pro League. Honestly, good for him for making a successful career. He's hype. He knows it. |
Some don't seem to be able to grasp being loud and controversial is SAS's shtick. He's a love to hate commentator. That personality garners him a great payday. Quote: | Stephen A. Smith's new five-year contract will make him ESPN's highest-paid sportscaster, with an annual salary of nearly $8 million per year, according to the New York Post. | He and Max are a team. I'd love to sit in on one of their pre-show production meetings. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Harlemlakerfan wrote: | Why would the Thunder help the Clippers be good, when its in their best interest if they are bad, since they own their draft picks for the rest of the century! |
Because adding Paul or not won’t matter, the picks will still be in the bottom of the draft. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:52 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | jodeke wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Who willingly chooses to be traded to Sarver's team? That's a sad way to close out a HOF career for CP3. |
Who chooses to go to a dysfunctional Jeanie Buss team? All it takes is one. |
C'mon man. We just brought the Larry O'Brien back to Staples.
You need attention? I have a lonely rescue dog who'd make a great addition to your family. You still my peeps. |
Actually I was comparing Paul going to Sarver and the Suns with Lebron coming to Jeanie and the Lakers. Both would be taking chances on teams going nowhere. |
Think about it VLF. You say LeBron went to a team going nowhere. That team won a championship to tie for the most championships in NBA history. Doesn't that kinda make your definition of a "team going nowhere" a misnomer?
In the case for CP3 coming here I'm not on board. He'd be a great basketball fit, he may not be a chemistry fit. I hope the Lakers resign Rondo. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:57 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | jodeke wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Who willingly chooses to be traded to Sarver's team? That's a sad way to close out a HOF career for CP3. |
Who chooses to go to a dysfunctional Jeanie Buss team? All it takes is one. |
C'mon man. We just brought the Larry O'Brien back to Staples.
You need attention? I have a lonely rescue dog who'd make a great addition to your family. You still my peeps. |
Actually I was comparing Paul going to Sarver and the Suns with Lebron coming to Jeanie and the Lakers. Both would be taking chances on teams going nowhere. |
Think about it VLF. You say LeBron went to a team going nowhere. That team won a championship to tie for the most championships in NBA history. Doesn't that kinda make your definition of a "team going nowhere" a misnomer?
In the case for CP3 coming here I'm not on board. He'd be a great basketball fit, he may not be a chemistry fit. |
No, the team Lebron joined was a lottery team. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:02 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | jodeke wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | jodeke wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Who willingly chooses to be traded to Sarver's team? That's a sad way to close out a HOF career for CP3. |
Who chooses to go to a dysfunctional Jeanie Buss team? All it takes is one. |
C'mon man. We just brought the Larry O'Brien back to Staples.
You need attention? I have a lonely rescue dog who'd make a great addition to your family. You still my peeps. |
Actually I was comparing Paul going to Sarver and the Suns with Lebron coming to Jeanie and the Lakers. Both would be taking chances on teams going nowhere. |
Think about it VLF. You say LeBron went to a team going nowhere. That team won a championship to tie for the most championships in NBA history. Doesn't that kinda make your definition of a "team going nowhere" a misnomer?
In the case for CP3 coming here I'm not on board. He'd be a great basketball fit, he may not be a chemistry fit. |
No, the team Lebron joined was a lottery team. |
Yes but a team that won a championship so it went somewhere. You said it yourself, they took a gamble. One that paid off. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:19 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Harlemlakerfan wrote: | Why would the Thunder help the Clippers be good, when its in their best interest if they are bad, since they own their draft picks for the rest of the century! |
Because adding Paul or not won’t matter, the picks will still be in the bottom of the draft. |
Thats short term thinking. Long term is, you don't trade them CP, the Clippers flame out again next year and then Kawhi and or PG opts out. Then, The Clippers are back to being terrible and those draft picks are more valuable. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:23 am Post subject: |
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What exactly do the Clips have that OKC would want for CP3?
Zubac? Nah. They are paying Adams 25m/year.
Lou/Bev? Not exactly the guys that fit OKC's rebuild culture.
I doubt Harrell agrees to be S&T to OKC.
And oh, OKC has most of the Clips future 1st in the next 6-7 years. I don't see how they have anywhere near the assets to get CP3. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:26 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | What exactly do the Clips have that OKC would want for CP3?
Zubac? Nah. They are paying Adams 25m/year.
Lou/Bev? Not exactly the guys that fit OKC's rebuild culture.
I doubt Harrell agrees to be S&T to OKC.
And oh, OKC has most of the Clips future 1st in the next 6-7 years. I don't see how they have anywhere near the assets to get CP3. |
All 100% facts!!!! |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:35 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | What exactly do the Clips have that OKC would want for CP3?
Zubac? Nah. They are paying Adams 25m/year.
Lou/Bev? Not exactly the guys that fit OKC's rebuild culture.
I doubt Harrell agrees to be S&T to OKC.
And oh, OKC has most of the Clips future 1st in the next 6-7 years. I don't see how they have anywhere near the assets to get CP3. |
Look...any team is capable of doing anything...except the Lakers.
Anything is possible for any team, except the Lakers. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:47 am Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | What exactly do the Clips have that OKC would want for CP3?
Zubac? Nah. They are paying Adams 25m/year.
Lou/Bev? Not exactly the guys that fit OKC's rebuild culture.
I doubt Harrell agrees to be S&T to OKC.
And oh, OKC has most of the Clips future 1st in the next 6-7 years. I don't see how they have anywhere near the assets to get CP3. |
Look...any team is capable of doing anything...except the Lakers.
Anything is possible for any team, except the Lakers. |
Are you and VLF secret email buddies? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:59 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | What exactly do the Clips have that OKC would want for CP3?
Zubac? Nah. They are paying Adams 25m/year.
Lou/Bev? Not exactly the guys that fit OKC's rebuild culture.
I doubt Harrell agrees to be S&T to OKC.
And oh, OKC has most of the Clips future 1st in the next 6-7 years. I don't see how they have anywhere near the assets to get CP3. |
Look...any team is capable of doing anything...except the Lakers.
Anything is possible for any team, except the Lakers. |
Are you and VLF secret email buddies? |
he is being sarcastic.
dont feed the VLF troll jodeke |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:08 am Post subject: |
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67 pages and this rumor was bull (bleep)?
Nash Vegas wrote: | https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2913545-nba-execs-see-lebrons-influence-over-lakers-leading-to-a-chris-paul-trade
Quote: | According to a league executive on the possibility of the Lakers pursuing a Chris Paul trade:
"Chris Paul would love to come back to L.A. I know it would be a dream come true for Chris...I know LeBron loves and trusts him, and he would be a good fit." |
Quote: | Paul would give the Lakers a third scorer and playmaking depth, especially if they retain Rajon Rondo, who also plans to opt out, per Charania. The challenge would be the two years, $85.6 million left on Paul's contract (he can opt out of the final season but isn't likely to, given the $44.2 million payday). |
Quote: | If James set his sights on Paul, the Lakers would have to send out five players: Kyle Kuzma, Danny Green and Quinn Cook, along with Avery Bradley and JaVale McGee, who need to opt into their contracts to be dealt. L.A. would also need to send its No. 28 pick in November's draft, signing that player before waiting 30 days to execute a deal in which the Lakers would offload almost $33 million in players salaries.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:09 am Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | 67 pages and this rumor was (bleep)?
Nash Vegas wrote: | https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2913545-nba-execs-see-lebrons-influence-over-lakers-leading-to-a-chris-paul-trade
Quote: | According to a league executive on the possibility of the Lakers pursuing a Chris Paul trade:
"Chris Paul would love to come back to L.A. I know it would be a dream come true for Chris...I know LeBron loves and trusts him, and he would be a good fit." |
Quote: | Paul would give the Lakers a third scorer and playmaking depth, especially if they retain Rajon Rondo, who also plans to opt out, per Charania. The challenge would be the two years, $85.6 million left on Paul's contract (he can opt out of the final season but isn't likely to, given the $44.2 million payday). |
Quote: | If James set his sights on Paul, the Lakers would have to send out five players: Kyle Kuzma, Danny Green and Quinn Cook, along with Avery Bradley and JaVale McGee, who need to opt into their contracts to be dealt. L.A. would also need to send its No. 28 pick in November's draft, signing that player before waiting 30 days to execute a deal in which the Lakers would offload almost $33 million in players salaries.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Harlemlakerfan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Harlemlakerfan wrote: | Why would the Thunder help the Clippers be good, when its in their best interest if they are bad, since they own their draft picks for the rest of the century! |
Because adding Paul or not won’t matter, the picks will still be in the bottom of the draft. |
Thats short term thinking. Long term is, you don't trade them CP, the Clippers flame out again next year and then Kawhi and or PG opts out. Then, The Clippers are back to being terrible and those draft picks are more valuable. |
Maybe in a fantasy world. Ballmer won’t let the Clippers be mediocre. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:21 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | What exactly do the Clips have that OKC would want for CP3?
Zubac? Nah. They are paying Adams 25m/year.
Lou/Bev? Not exactly the guys that fit OKC's rebuild culture.
I doubt Harrell agrees to be S&T to OKC.
And oh, OKC has most of the Clips future 1st in the next 6-7 years. I don't see how they have anywhere near the assets to get CP3. |
Look...any team is capable of doing anything...except the Lakers.
Anything is possible for any team, except the Lakers. |
Are you and VLF secret email buddies? |
That was sarcasm |
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:31 am Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | jodeke wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | What exactly do the Clips have that OKC would want for CP3?
Zubac? Nah. They are paying Adams 25m/year.
Lou/Bev? Not exactly the guys that fit OKC's rebuild culture.
I doubt Harrell agrees to be S&T to OKC.
And oh, OKC has most of the Clips future 1st in the next 6-7 years. I don't see how they have anywhere near the assets to get CP3. |
Look...any team is capable of doing anything...except the Lakers.
Anything is possible for any team, except the Lakers. |
Are you and VLF secret email buddies? |
That was sarcasm |
Ooooootay. If you've followed any of my postings you know I'm horrible at picking up on sarcasm. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | jodeke wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | What exactly do the Clips have that OKC would want for CP3?
Zubac? Nah. They are paying Adams 25m/year.
Lou/Bev? Not exactly the guys that fit OKC's rebuild culture.
I doubt Harrell agrees to be S&T to OKC.
And oh, OKC has most of the Clips future 1st in the next 6-7 years. I don't see how they have anywhere near the assets to get CP3. |
Look...any team is capable of doing anything...except the Lakers.
Anything is possible for any team, except the Lakers. |
Are you and VLF secret email buddies? |
he is being sarcastic.
dont feed the VLF troll jodeke |
I don't think VLF's a troll. He's opinionated and many times way off base but I don't think he purposely trolls. IMO he's just uninformed. He's the only mod I've ever gotten into heated debates with. I kinda like the guy. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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