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| F'ing kid is AMAZING. I would listen to offers for any player (its the front of the jersey that matters), but it will have to be a huge offer to get AR. We will be in great shape this offseason to acquire exactly what we need (if Rob is smart enough). |
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| He's just a 6th man. We should trade him and 2 firsts for Dejounte Murray |
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| Quote: | | Austin Reaves: “I’ve spoken on this a million times… you know, the path that I took is not conventional. There’s probably only a handful of people that thought I would be in this position, if any. It wasn’t really the popular thing to do to continue to chase my dream. You know, I didn’t really do anything in high school but go to the gym—don’t party, don’t drink, or anything like that. I kind of just stuck to basketball and chose that route. I know I had teachers in high school telling me I needed to figure out a Plan B because, you know, Plan A wasn’t going to work. Like, I’ve been told that a million times. And I maybe wasn’t smart enough to understand that because, you know, it’s a very small percentage that makes it to this level. So I was probably naive when they were telling me that, and was like, ‘Ah, screw y’all, I’m going to figure it out.’ And it’s just—if I can inspire kids in my situation to continue to chase their dreams, whatever it is, just do it. Regardless of what anybody thinks of you.”* – via YouTube |
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| spflakers wrote: | Before this season the last time Lakers won 33 in a row was 1972. Gail Goodrich was the leading scorer on a team with Wilt and Jerry West.
Figure Reaves will do the same this year on a team with Luka and LeBron. |
That team was known for fast breaking. Goodrich was a shooter who ran fastbreaks alongside West and others while Wilt protected the rim. If Reaves has become a legitimate scoring threat, this team will be very hard to stop, while having very good defenders.
It's almost mind boggling to figure out how they got good so fast. |
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lakersboy
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| defense wrote: | | He's just a 6th man. We should trade him and 2 firsts for Dejounte Murray |
If not, Lebron might leave and go to another team. AR's value will never be higher. |
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It isn't even worth trading him at this salary. He would have to be in a package with other salary to match a salary of an all star type of player and he is at that level by himself.
If he had a salary of like 30 something million then I would consider trading him for a package of a superstar player, but it doesn't make sense at his 12 million and his production
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| MJST wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | | I’ve been telling people AR is like a baby Kyrie but nobody wanna listen. He doesn’t necessarily have Kyrie’s touch but the way he sauces people up and relentlessly attacks the rim gives me flashes of Kai |
Because he's also worked tirelessly on his handles for the past 3 seasons. |
His handles are unique because he carries the basketball. Every once in a while guys do something in violation of the rules, but the league needs the excitement, so they ignore it.
AI's ankle breaking crossover was a definite carry.
Shaq bulled his way through defenders who had legally established position.
Harden travels on his step back shot, and many others do now.
Guys are allowed to come to a stop, establish a pivot foot, and then change their mind and switch to their other foot in order to get a shot off.
Euro step wouldn't have been legal in the 90's or prior to that, during ugly defensive basketball with Alonzo Mourning type teams.
JJ Reddick who used to catch a ball in stride and shoot, once took 5 steps and wasn't called for traveling.
Lebron made a habit of picking up the ball backcourt and walking 3-5 steps without dribbling while refs look away.
And now AR constantly carries the ball when he changes or fakes changing direction. It adds to scoring and is the type of thing the league looks away from. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | F'ing kid is AMAZING. I would listen to offers for any player (its the front of the jersey that matters), but it will have to be a huge offer to get AR. We will be in great shape this offseason to acquire exactly what we need (if Rob is smart enough). |
AR has turned a corner this season and is an emerging Ginobli-level allstar that can flat out win games for you by himself. It would be insane to trade him at this point. |
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LakerFan1987
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I think AR will be a LAKER FOR LIFE.
He has IT. |
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Only Ginobli was actually an all star.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Only Ginobli was actually an all star. |
Lol, why u trying to to diss our bright young star VLF?
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Continues to improve on his weaknesses and exceed my expectations. He went from regressing below 2nd year levels to borderline All Star all in about 2 months. He's been excellent and keeps getting better.
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| governator wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Only Ginobli was actually an all star. |
Lol, why u trying to to diss our bright young star VLF? |
I like Reaves and would only deal him for filling a big hole, namely center. How is calling someone a non-all star who has never been an all star dissing them?
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Super sub mode activated! I hope it ultimately leads to that for Reavus.
He’s gonna eat off bench level talent and has the know how & practice now, to lead that 2nd unit staggered between Luka & Bron.
He & Rui need to lead our bench, where he sets Rui up as lead bucket getter. And if all goes to plan, his playmaking/point production won’t have to be as heavily relied on, where he can start to refocus on his defensive effort some more, to where he was a couple seasons ago.
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | Super sub mode activated! I hope it ultimately leads to that for Reavus.
He’s gonna eat off bench level talent and has the know how & practice now, to lead that 2nd unit staggered between Luka & Bron.
He & Rui need to lead our bench, where he sets Rui up as lead bucket getter. And if all goes to plan, his playmaking/point production won’t have to be as heavily relied on, where he can start to refocus on his defensive effort some more, to where he was a couple seasons ago. |
Reaves and Rui should play with the bench but not off the bench. To suggest playing them off the bench is crazy because they are obviously player 3 and 4 on this team by a gap.
Reaves and Rui can run with the second unit when one or sometimes both of Luka and Bron sit but they aren’t bench players. Let alone they aren’t bench guys for people like Dalton or Vando.
Gabe fits a need off the bench. A small guard defender who can come in and play with any of them.
DFS fits a need off the bench as he’s essentially our draymond. Long as we lack a center he came in first for Hayes. He’s the guy defending the 5 like he was in Brooklyn when he was finishing games over Claxton.
Vando just can’t start. He’s too bad a shooter and hands are too bad to convert stuff. That’s seen when Reaves wouldn’t even throw a lob to him.
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | Super sub mode activated! I hope it ultimately leads to that for Reavus.
He’s gonna eat off bench level talent and has the know how & practice now, to lead that 2nd unit staggered between Luka & Bron.
He & Rui need to lead our bench, where he sets Rui up as lead bucket getter. And if all goes to plan, his playmaking/point production won’t have to be as heavily relied on, where he can start to refocus on his defensive effort some more, to where he was a couple seasons ago. |
Reaves and Rui should play with the bench but not off the bench. To suggest playing them off the bench is crazy because they are obviously player 3 and 4 on this team by a gap.
Reaves and Rui can run with the second unit when one or sometimes both of Luka and Bron sit but they aren’t bench players. Let alone they aren’t bench guys for people like Dalton or Vando.
Gabe fits a need off the bench. A small guard defender who can come in and play with any of them.
DFS fits a need off the bench as he’s essentially our draymond. Long as we lack a center he came in first for Hayes. He’s the guy defending the 5 like he was in Brooklyn when he was finishing games over Claxton. |
I can see the blueprint you spelled out the other day. I like how JJ setup his rotations. It helps that they played the Jazz and Luka only had 14 shots. Might be a case where they don't need as many shots because the 3 of them boost each other's efficiency. Had flashes of Kyrie/Harden/KD.
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| manlisten wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | Super sub mode activated! I hope it ultimately leads to that for Reavus.
He’s gonna eat off bench level talent and has the know how & practice now, to lead that 2nd unit staggered between Luka & Bron.
He & Rui need to lead our bench, where he sets Rui up as lead bucket getter. And if all goes to plan, his playmaking/point production won’t have to be as heavily relied on, where he can start to refocus on his defensive effort some more, to where he was a couple seasons ago. |
Reaves and Rui should play with the bench but not off the bench. To suggest playing them off the bench is crazy because they are obviously player 3 and 4 on this team by a gap.
Reaves and Rui can run with the second unit when one or sometimes both of Luka and Bron sit but they aren’t bench players. Let alone they aren’t bench guys for people like Dalton or Vando.
Gabe fits a need off the bench. A small guard defender who can come in and play with any of them.
DFS fits a need off the bench as he’s essentially our draymond. Long as we lack a center he came in first for Hayes. He’s the guy defending the 5 like he was in Brooklyn when he was finishing games over Claxton. |
I can see the blueprint you spelled out the other day. I like how JJ setup his rotations. It helps that they played the Jazz and Luka only had 14 shots. Might be a case where they don't need as many shots because the 3 of them boost each other's efficiency. Had flashes of Kyrie/Harden/KD. |
Yeah Dalton and Vando are both too limited to talk about benching either. And then you limit what you bring off the bench. Gabe can keep speed in front him and bring that off the bench as you can go big when he comes in and put a bigger team out there. DFS can defend multiple spots like Draymond and was doing that in Brooklyn as a backup 5 to close before he got traded, so he sits behind Hayes. Hayes is limited but has energy so he can start and dunk like Javale used too.
Dalton plays too little defense to the point it’s feasible because he’s a space cadet that Goodwin or even Cam can beat him out in the playoffs, much like Max beat him out after a horrible start. And none of them can touch Reaves ball handling, shooting, scoring, passing, drawing fouls, or even anything close.
Vando can play defense but his best function is 15 mins at center now because of limited offense. He rebounds well enough but to he dunks the mf and all he’s not a viable wing replacement for Rui of all people. Rui can kill him shooting the ball and Rui since AD went down is beating him on the glass, so he’s not got a leg to stand on playing over him.
There is literally no reason to piss Rui and Reaves off and make them all on you next summer. Not a basketball reason at all |
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^Kblo, imho starters for the postseason should be a healthy balance of offense & defense. Luka, DFS, Rui, Bron, Hayes and play according to whatever the matchups are in each round from there. Reavus subs for either Bron or Luka first with Rui’s minutes primarily tied to Bron’s & Vando’s. I’m thinking Bron & Luka will be staggered for much of these games, limiting any game time action where none are not present on the court.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Reaves should start and finish games. He's a more than capable starting level NBA combo guard.
We're overcomplicating this. We're like the 2021 Nets now, but better fitting and better coached, and arguably more talented if we account for Luka and Austin not even being in their primes.
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| governator wrote: | Kobe-esque
| Quote: | | Austin Reaves: “I’ve spoken on this a million times… you know, the path that I took is not conventional. There’s probably only a handful of people that thought I would be in this position, if any. It wasn’t really the popular thing to do to continue to chase my dream. You know, I didn’t really do anything in high school but go to the gym—don’t party, don’t drink, or anything like that. I kind of just stuck to basketball and chose that route. I know I had teachers in high school telling me I needed to figure out a Plan B because, you know, Plan A wasn’t going to work. Like, I’ve been told that a million times. And I maybe wasn’t smart enough to understand that because, you know, it’s a very small percentage that makes it to this level. So I was probably naive when they were telling me that, and was like, ‘Ah, screw y’all, I’m going to figure it out.’ And it’s just—if I can inspire kids in my situation to continue to chase their dreams, whatever it is, just do it. Regardless of what anybody thinks of you.”* – via YouTube |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Keep guys rested (and healthy). That should be are only goal. It doesn't matter who starts, it is who finishes. This kid will always be on the floor in the 4th (he is insane when it counts). |
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| ^ no wonder we had to rescind the Mark Williams trade |
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