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| Megaton wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | He is a stud and knows what he is doing on the basketball court.
Watch out for this guy next season, he is balling out and is better than Caruso which I never thought I would say. |
Being better than Caruso isn't a high bar. Caruso at best is a role player with below average offense but great defense.
Reaves is an all star talent. |
I'm not a big fan of labeling someone an All-Star talent until they actually make an All-Star team myself. |
You can be an all star talent without making it. It's called the Mike Conley in his entire reign on the Grizzlies.
The West is stacked with guards and has been for many years. So in Reaves's case, he would easily be an all star at his pace for the East. |
Conley is one of my favorite players. He represents everything you want in a point guard. He's already appreciated enough, but I get the sense that he'd be getting the HOF nod if he had a ring or two over multiple all-star appearances. Similarly, I think most Laker fans couldn't care less if AR misses out on the all-star game, so as long as he's helping AD and Bron contend for championships. WCF/Finals appearances beat all-star nods any day of the week (see Ginobili). Plus, the all-star game has turned into absolute garbage in these last few years. I doubt most people even tune in these days, other than to see their favorite player introduced in the beginning.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | He is a stud and knows what he is doing on the basketball court.
Watch out for this guy next season, he is balling out and is better than Caruso which I never thought I would say. |
Being better than Caruso isn't a high bar. Caruso at best is a role player with below average offense but great defense.
Reaves is an all star talent. |
I'm not a big fan of labeling someone an All-Star talent until they actually make an All-Star team myself. |
You can be an all star talent without making it. It's called the Mike Conley in his entire reign on the Grizzlies.
The West is stacked with guards and has been for many years. So in Reaves's case, he would easily be an all star at his pace for the East. |
Conley is one of my favorite players. He represents everything you want in a point guard. He's already appreciated enough, but I get the sense that he'd be getting the HOF nod if he had a ring or two over multiple all-star appearances. Similarly, I think most Laker fans couldn't care less if AR misses out on the all-star game, so as long as he's helping AD and Bron contend for championships. WCF/Finals appearances beat all-star nods any day of the week (see Ginobili). Plus, the all-star game has turned into absolute garbage in these last few years. I doubt most people even tune in these days, other than to see their favorite player introduced in the beginning. |
Oh I agree with most of that. I'm just talking about how a player can be an all star level player, and not make an all star team. And Mike Conley in his 14 or so years with the Grizzlies, is THE representation of that fact.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Megaton wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | He is a stud and knows what he is doing on the basketball court.
Watch out for this guy next season, he is balling out and is better than Caruso which I never thought I would say. |
Being better than Caruso isn't a high bar. Caruso at best is a role player with below average offense but great defense.
Reaves is an all star talent. |
I'm not a big fan of labeling someone an All-Star talent until they actually make an All-Star team myself. |
You can be an all star talent without making it. It's called the Mike Conley in his entire reign on the Grizzlies.
The West is stacked with guards and has been for many years. So in Reaves's case, he would easily be an all star at his pace for the East. |
I guess an "all star talent" is a player who's good enough that you wouldn't be shocked if he makes an all-star team, but he's not so good that you are shocked that he doesn't make an all-star team. They are kind of the guys who round out of the all star team for the true stars.
By that definition, there are a lot of one-time actual all stars who I would call "all star talents."
Anyway, this is mostly a semantics exercise. Fingers crossed that Reaves actually turns into the player you predict he will. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Reaves stats vs Jordan:
8 Pts (2-3 FG), 2 Rbs, 1 Ast, 1 Stl. |
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Not a great game today by the stats. But if he adds THIS to his game, we’re having a different conversation.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | Reaves stats vs Jordan:
8 Pts (2-3 FG), 2 Rbs, 1 Ast, 1 Stl. |
i think he was 3-6,2-4 from the 3, had 4 TOs as well, probably his worst game so far, but it was against Jordan, so meaningless. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | Reaves stats vs Jordan:
8 Pts (2-3 FG), 2 Rbs, 1 Ast, 1 Stl. |
Scrub! trade him for Christian Wood |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | Reaves stats vs Jordan:
8 Pts (3-6 FG), 2 Rbs, 1 Ast, 1 Stl. |
i think he was 3-6,2-4 from the 3, had 4 TOs as well, probably his worst game so far, but it was against Jordan, so meaningless. |
Correct, AR also played 19 minutes & competed hard, not a bad game at all. |
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Austin Reaves in 24 minutes: vs Montenegro
12 PTS
3 STL
1-2 FG
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Against Lithuania, Austin seemed to struggle against bigger/longer defenders. Did it just reveal to teams how they can defend him while hiding their smaller defenders on Vanderbilt? Teams used to employ that against Kobe and Phil responded by putting in Luke to punish smaller defenders. We might need Rui to be that guy. Or can JV punish them by crashing the offensive boards? It can easily backfire on us though if that small defender leaks out for an easy fast-break bucket.
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| Aphex Twin wrote: | https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2317161
People at RealGM want him to already retire. That is mean. |
What is it with these haters always referring to white players like Reaves and Alex Caruso as "accountants?"
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| Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| slavavov wrote: | | Aphex Twin wrote: | https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2317161
People at RealGM want him to already retire. That is mean. |
What is it with these haters always referring to white players like Reaves and Alex Caruso as "accountants?" |
Unfamiliar with the stereotypes and general history of the USA? I personally think he plays a little like Harden, as much as it pains me to say it. |
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| slavavov wrote: | | Aphex Twin wrote: | https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2317161
People at RealGM want him to already retire. That is mean. |
What is it with these haters always referring to white players like Reaves and Alex Caruso as "accountants?" |
Unfamiliar with the stereotypes and general history of the USA? I personally think he plays a little like Harden, as much as it pains me to say it. |
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| slavavov wrote: | | Aphex Twin wrote: | https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2317161
People at RealGM want him to already retire. That is mean. |
What is it with these haters always referring to white players like Reaves and Alex Caruso as "accountants?" |
Well, can't refer to them as rappers, so ....
Oh, here's a 
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i think AR played much better than anyone's expectation for Team USA. i am so happy to see him grow up. his 3 ball is over 50% and his efficiency is off the charts. it's also wild to see people hated the Lakers so much that they rather see their country lose and blame it on the guy they claim to be "a wasted roster spot".
AR could've chosen to play for Team Germany by the way, and get consistent international playing time for the next decade, but he chose to be on Team USA and there is no guarantee he would even be brought back. |
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Knowing Reaves, maybe he'll be even more motivated for this NBA season after we lost to the F'in Germans in the FIBA World Cup.
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21 pts and 7/10 from the field in the close out. What the hell were his teammates doing? standing around?!
It's funny seeing his haters slander him even though he was pretty much the only guy besides Edwards to show up |
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| lordtrapula wrote: | 21 pts and 7/10 from the field in the close out. What the hell were his teammates doing? standing around?!
It's funny seeing his haters slander him even though he was pretty much the only guy besides Edwards to show up |
80-60-100
Anyone hating on Austin is not very bright
This is just the end of his SECOND year and I will bet his decision making is far ahead of 80% of that team |
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| lordtrapula wrote: | 21 pts and 7/10 from the field in the close out. What the hell were his teammates doing? standing around?!
It's funny seeing his haters slander him even though he was pretty much the only guy besides Edwards to show up |
They single him out for DS blowing by him and stop and hit a 2 point shot at the end of the game, but convincingly forgot AR scored 7 points in the same span. AR didn’t get /ma single shot in 2nd and 3rd quarter. Brunson and haliburton made Obst look like Steph curry. daniel Theis scored more than JJJ and portis combined. ANT pass the ball to JJJ when everyone needed him to shoot. Bridges got blocked on the layup attempt while nobody even went for rebound. I am glad AR showed up and it looks like he can handle the laker hype |
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Kerr is a fraud of a coach after all.
Dude might have worse starting lineups than Ham. At least Ham adjusts slowly. Kerr just kept the same bs that wasn't working. Reaves not starting when he has been clearly the best player on the team (and Hailburton) is mind boggling.
Anthony Edwards scores a lot, but the dude is a tremendous ball hog.
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| I have a feeling Kerr should've deferred to Reaves sooner and give him complete control but with the egos on that team I doubt it would fly. |
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