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up to 38% from 3
efficiency is creeping back up |
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miggz23
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| defense wrote: | up to 38% from 3
efficiency is creeping back up |
Most of the team last night improved their percentages beside Woods. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | defense wrote: | up to 38% from 3
efficiency is creeping back up |
Most of the team last night improved their percentages beside Woods. |
Sometimes you just have to go out there and shoot 63% as a team. |
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tox
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| defense wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | defense wrote: | up to 38% from 3
efficiency is creeping back up |
Most of the team last night improved their percentages beside Woods. |
Sometimes you just have to go out there and shoot 63% as a team. |
Why don't they always do that? Is Ham dumb? |
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tox
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Up to a career high in RBD%
Hope that keeps up. |
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JJin77
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| P.K. wrote: | | zambia wrote: | | P.K. wrote: | | defense wrote: | | I said before the season started I felt Russell and Reaves were both best at the PG position. They become liabilities if you don't have a big guard that can rebound and defend next to them. Reaves and Strooder worked because Strooder is relentless on defense. Maybe Gabe can do the same, but he flat out does not seem as good as Strooder. |
Before the season started, Ham and the Lakers org were talking about AR playing more PG.
Considering Dlo is trade bait, there's a probability that we'll see more of an AR/Cam lineup after the trade deadline with Gabe as backup |
You want AR guarding a PG. That’s not going to work defensively. |
you want Dlo guarding anyone other then a garden gnome?
Apples to apples, AR is a much better defender than Dlo |
It's actually very hard to believe Dlo has been outplaying AR on defensive end this season. However, AR still has way more upside on that end than Dlo and he somewhat is more engaged during the 4th q. so I don't mind Ham playing AR to close the game either. |
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zambia
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| JJin77 wrote: | | P.K. wrote: | | zambia wrote: | | P.K. wrote: | | defense wrote: | | I said before the season started I felt Russell and Reaves were both best at the PG position. They become liabilities if you don't have a big guard that can rebound and defend next to them. Reaves and Strooder worked because Strooder is relentless on defense. Maybe Gabe can do the same, but he flat out does not seem as good as Strooder. |
Before the season started, Ham and the Lakers org were talking about AR playing more PG.
Considering Dlo is trade bait, there's a probability that we'll see more of an AR/Cam lineup after the trade deadline with Gabe as backup |
You want AR guarding a PG. That’s not going to work defensively. |
you want Dlo guarding anyone other then a garden gnome?
Apples to apples, AR is a much better defender than Dlo |
It's actually very hard to believe Dlo has been outplaying AR on defensive end this season. However, AR still has way more upside on that end than Dlo and he somewhat is more engaged during the 4th q. so I don't mind Ham playing AR to close the game either. |
Both are poor defenders. I wouldn’t say AR has way more upside. |
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Lonzo-Lite
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Needs to slow down a bit, his turnover rate per min is high.
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CamReddish
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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He isn't that good to dribble around
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Seems like he drank his own Kool Aid
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Having DS around means AR can play off ball where he is much more effective and efficient, not sure if Gabe can do that |
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| CamReddish wrote: | | He isn't that good to dribble around |
He thought he was working out with Handy. |
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lakersfever714
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tf happens?? Do we just keep him and hope he turns it around or look to trade him? This is...NOT good. We're trying to a championship this year and have no patience for guys who are trying to figure stuff out.
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Austin Reaves had 3 good games, 1 bad game since being moved to the bench.
Let's see how he responds.
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You keep him unless he has to be part of a deal you can’t turn down. He is struggling but he is still a rotation level player.
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| His defense is atrocious, he doesn't seem to be able to make a pass and he's forgotten how to dribble. Hope he finds his game sometime soon. |
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JJin77
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| zambia wrote: | | JJin77 wrote: | | P.K. wrote: | | zambia wrote: | | P.K. wrote: | | defense wrote: | | I said before the season started I felt Russell and Reaves were both best at the PG position. They become liabilities if you don't have a big guard that can rebound and defend next to them. Reaves and Strooder worked because Strooder is relentless on defense. Maybe Gabe can do the same, but he flat out does not seem as good as Strooder. |
Before the season started, Ham and the Lakers org were talking about AR playing more PG.
Considering Dlo is trade bait, there's a probability that we'll see more of an AR/Cam lineup after the trade deadline with Gabe as backup |
You want AR guarding a PG. That’s not going to work defensively. |
you want Dlo guarding anyone other then a garden gnome?
Apples to apples, AR is a much better defender than Dlo |
It's actually very hard to believe Dlo has been outplaying AR on defensive end this season. However, AR still has way more upside on that end than Dlo and he somewhat is more engaged during the 4th q. so I don't mind Ham playing AR to close the game either. |
Both are poor defenders. I wouldn’t say AR has way more upside. |
Ok way more upside might have been a hyperbole, but you get what I mean.
Moreover, if you judge based on this season alone, Dlo has been consistently pretty decent. |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| I can understand the struggle on the offensive side but what hell happened to his defense? |
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defense
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:58 am Post subject: |
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not getting to the line like last season
not defending like last season
turning it over way too much
taking bad shots
He has a lot to improve on. The team has bigger issues than him though. The starters got demolished last night. |
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lakersfever714
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4th year should have been team option. Would make his contract slightly more attractive for would be takers. Pelinka was too confident in AR?
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miggz23
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | 4th year should have been team option. Would make his contract slightly more attractive for would be takers. Pelinka was too confident in AR? |
Production wise lines up to his contract. But most of us were expecting playoffs AR production, a $30m player for $12m. |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | 4th year should have been team option. Would make his contract slightly more attractive for would be takers. Pelinka was too confident in AR? |
Production wise lines up to his contract. But most of us were expecting playoffs AR production, a $30m player for $12m. |
Yea, his contract is a deal. No issues there. |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | 4th year should have been team option. Would make his contract slightly more attractive for would be takers. Pelinka was too confident in AR? |
Production wise lines up to his contract. But most of us were expecting playoffs AR production, a $30m player for $12m. |
Yea, his contract is a deal. No issues there. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| Teams have film on him now. They're taking away the things he excels at. I have faith he can adjust. Id much rather him figure it out now than in the playoffs. |
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kfkilla
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He’s trying to do too much. There are numerous times he is holding on to the ball for way too long only to find himself being swarmed. We are using him in too high of a usage role IMHO. He is amazing as a secondary playmaker but I don’t know if at this time using him as a primary playmaker is all that much of a good idea. He also plays so freaking hard he is going to hurt himself if his usage stays this high.
I still think AR is a good starting 2 guard once we have Vando back to have his back on defense. Our offense looks the best in Dlos hands, but it should really somehow be run through AD. Not sure how to do that because AD is falling all over the place if you give him the ball outside the paint and gets triple teamed if he posts up. This has been Hams worst part as a coach. He HAS to find a way to run the offense through AD that doesn’t involve high pick and roll. |
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