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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:15 am    Post subject:

Zelensky formally applies to NATO.

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WATCH: President Zelenskyy of Ukraine signs the application to join NATO, following Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, Zaporizhzhia regions. Kyiv was formally applying for fast-track membership of the NATO. #Ukraine #NATO #War


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:16 am    Post subject:

CNN

(Hear what CNN reporter noticed about crowd watching Putin's speech)

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Russian President Vladimir Putin said four occupied Ukrainian regions will become part of Russia “forever,” during his Kremlin speech that announced the illegal annexations. CNN’s Matthew Chance and Nick Paton Walsh react to Putin’s speech.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:24 am    Post subject:

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(US responds to Putin's annexation of parts of Ukraine)

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The Biden administration imposed swift sanctions on Russia after Putin announced an illegal annexation of Ukrainian regions. Biden released a statement sharply condemning the move and said Russia is now "violating international law." CNN's Jeremy Diamond reports.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:51 pm    Post subject:

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(US responds to Putin's annexation of parts of Ukraine)

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The Biden administration imposed swift sanctions on Russia after Putin announced an illegal annexation of Ukrainian regions. Biden released a statement sharply condemning the move and said Russia is now "violating international law." CNN's Jeremy Diamond reports.


So basically the US did nothing because those sanctions have not discouraged the Orcs.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:46 pm    Post subject:

BBC News

(Putin annexes Ukraine regions in Europe’s biggest land grab since WW2 - BBC News)

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President Putin has announced the annexation of four regions of Ukraine that are controlled by Russian forces.

It’s the biggest seizure of territory in Europe since the Second World War.

The Russian leader’s declaration follows staged referendums in Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Luhansk and Donetsk, which were denounced as sham by the international community.

President Putin warned the West he would protect the territory with all means at his disposal.

In response Ukraine said its application to join the NATO western alliance should be accelerated.

The United States announced new sanctions against Russia.

Jane Hill presents BBC News at Ten reporting from Russia editor Steve Rosenberg in Moscow.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:53 pm    Post subject:

CNN

(Hear Putin's announcement about citizens in newly annexed regions)

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CNN international security editor Nick Paton Walsh reports on Vladimir Putin's speech announcing the annexation of four areas of Ukraine that the West denounced as illegal.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:09 pm    Post subject:

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(Jeremy Bash: Putin’s ‘Illegal Annexation’ Is A ‘Clear Signal That He Believes He's Losing The War’)

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Former Chief of Staff at the CIA and the Pentagon Jeremy Bash joins Andrea Mitchell after Putin “illegally annexed territory that he and his forces don’t even control” to weigh in on the state of the war in Ukraine and how Western forces have worked together to train and deliver equipment to Ukrainian forces. “This, I think, has been a major success: the unity of the West, the ability to deliver weaponry to the Ukrainians, the ability to deliver high technology like HIMARS, which is really inflicted damage on the Russian military infrastructure,” says Bash. “Russia took this illegal sham operation today to annex these territories because they're losing this war.”
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:17 pm    Post subject:

Putin said "Any attack on the newly annexed territories will be a direct attack on Russia"

all Euro dollars dropping
Is this fear of WWIII
83 years ago in September

Plus (if) Russia attacked the Nordstream pipeline....
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:44 pm    Post subject:

Army major and wife indicted for conspiring to give Russia medical secrets

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Henry and Gabrielian met with an individual they believed was associated with the Russian government but who was really an undercover agent, the indictment said. The couple allegedly told the agent they could pass on medical records to Russia of U.S. military, military family members and other individuals.

Later, in a meeting at a hotel, Gabrielian allegedly provided the agent with medical information of two people: the spouse of an employee at the Office of Naval Intelligence and a veteran of the U.S. Air Force. Gabrielian pointed out a medical issue in the first record that Russia could exploit, the Justice Department said.


In the early days of the Cold War, this would have been a death penalty offense.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:06 am    Post subject:

Saw report that says Hungary and Turkey are last votes needed to add Ukraine to NATO

If Hungary says NO.. can we just kick their ass out?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:22 am    Post subject:

BBC News

(Russian troops forced out of key Ukraine town – BBC News)

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Russia has withdrawn its troops from the strategic Ukrainian town of Lyman, in a move seen as a significant setback for its campaign in the east.

The retreat came amid fears thousands of soldiers would be encircled in the town, Russia's defence ministry said.

Recapturing Lyman is of strategic significance for Ukraine. The town had been used as a logistics hub by Russia, and could give Ukrainian troops access to more territory in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:25 am    Post subject:

CNN

(Former CIA official explains who Putin's speech was directed at)

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Former CIA official Steve Hall discusses Russian President Vladimir Putin's speech where he declared Russian rule over parts of Ukraine.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:28 am    Post subject:

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(Ret. Lt. General says Putin has lost his relationship with reality)

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Retired Lieutenant General Mark Hertling discusses Russian President Vladimir Putin's speech where he seized one fifth of Ukraine's land.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:23 am    Post subject:

CNN

(Ex-oligarch says Putin is risking his life)

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Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a former Russian oil executive who spent years in prison, discusses Russian President Vladimir Putin's mindset as he declared Russian rule over parts of Ukraine.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:31 am    Post subject:

MSNBC

(Fmr. NATO Chief: NATO Reacted 'Too Mildly' When Putin Annexed Crimea)

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Anders Fogh Rasmussen was Secretary-General of NATO the last time Russia tried to illegally annex Ukrainian territory in Crimea. “We have learned lessons” since 2014, says Rasmussen. “We reacted too reluctantly and too mildly when Putin illegally annexed Crimea. And by that, we sent him a dangerous signal that he could, almost without any cost, annex also the eastern and southern parts of Ukraine.” Now, as the country pushes for NATO membership, “Ukraine needs ironclad security guarantees.” Rasmussen presented his plans for a ‘Kyiv Security Compact’ to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy –“The essence of that would be to make Ukraine capable of defending itself against any Russian attack.”
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:22 pm    Post subject:

Sounds like Putin ordered the pipelines destroyed when he realized the west wasn't going to buy Russian gas anytime soon. Remember Putin is selling a different narrative to his people, one that Russia is constantly under attack. Blowing up the pipeline would sell this narrative that the west was going to hurt Russia financially and also try to get the Russian public to become more enthusiastic in supporting the war effort.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:13 am    Post subject:

BBC News

(Ukraine can push back against Russian forces, says Nato secretary general - BBC News)

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Nato's secretary general has said the recapture of Lyman in eastern Ukraine shows Ukrainians can push back against Russian forces.

Russia has withdrawn its troops from the strategic town, which is within the territory that President Vladimir Putin declared as annexed.

Ukrainian troops on the front line have said that Russian annexation in the country will fail.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:20 am    Post subject:

CNN

(As Putin celebrated, his troops were fleeing this key city)

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CNN's Nick Paton Walsh visits Lyman in eastern Ukraine hours after Ukraine regained control of the city from Russian forces.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:29 am    Post subject:

CNN

(US considering responses if Putin uses nuclear weapons)

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With concerns growing that Vladimir Putin will escalate Russia’s war in Ukraine, the US is considering how to respond to a range of potential scenarios, including fears that Russians could use tactical nuclear weapons, according to three sources briefed on the latest intelligence.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:26 pm    Post subject:

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Ukrainian diplomat responds to Musk’s peace proposal: ‘f— off’

Ukrainian diplomat Andriy Melnyk told billionaire Elon Musk to “f— off” after the SpaceX and Tesla CEO proposed Ukraine give up some territory and hold new elections in contested regions to end the war with Russia.

Musk tweeted out a poll on Monday asking respondents to weigh in on his proposal to end the war: redoing elections of annexed regions under United Nations supervision, giving up the Crimean peninsula to Russia and maintaining Ukraine as a neutral country between Russia and the West.

“This is highly likely to be the outcome in the end – just a question of how many die before then,” Musk wrote. “Also worth noting that a possible, albeit unlikely, outcome from this conflict is nuclear war.”

Melnyk responded shortly after: “F– off is my very diplomatic reply to you.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/3672143-ukrainian-diplomat-responds-to-musks-peace-proposal-f-off/
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:04 pm    Post subject:

CNN

(Former Russian diplomat: Putin’s 'situation is growing worse and worse every day’)

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Boris Bondarev, who resigned from Russia’s diplomatic service in May, tells CNN’s Becky Anderson why he thinks Vladimir Putin’s position in Russia is weakening.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:06 pm    Post subject:

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(Ret. General thinks Ukraine’s missile proposal is ‘a wonderful thing’)

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In an effort to overcome Biden administration resistance to providing it with a new set of powerful, long-range rocket systems, the Ukrainian government is now offering the US full and ongoing visibility into their list of intended Russian targets, multiple officials familiar with the discussions tell CNN. Retired General Wesley Clark and ex-CIA Chief of Russia Operations Steve Hall weigh in on the latest news out of Ukraine.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:08 pm    Post subject:

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Ukrainian diplomat responds to Musk’s peace proposal: ‘f— off’

Ukrainian diplomat Andriy Melnyk told billionaire Elon Musk to “f— off” after the SpaceX and Tesla CEO proposed Ukraine give up some territory and hold new elections in contested regions to end the war with Russia.

Musk tweeted out a poll on Monday asking respondents to weigh in on his proposal to end the war: redoing elections of annexed regions under United Nations supervision, giving up the Crimean peninsula to Russia and maintaining Ukraine as a neutral country between Russia and the West.

“This is highly likely to be the outcome in the end – just a question of how many die before then,” Musk wrote. “Also worth noting that a possible, albeit unlikely, outcome from this conflict is nuclear war.”

Melnyk responded shortly after: “F– off is my very diplomatic reply to you.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/3672143-ukrainian-diplomat-responds-to-musks-peace-proposal-f-off/


Gotta love how Elon is willing to give parts of Ukraine away to keep peace.....for a matter that doesn't involve him personally.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:55 pm    Post subject:

CNN

(Video of Russian recruits reveals reality on the frontlines)

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CNN's Melissa Bell reports on widely circulated social media videos of recruits talking about their poor training and equipment on the front lines. CNN has not been able to independently verify the videos.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:08 pm    Post subject:

NBC News

(Chechen Soldiers Now Fighting Alongside Ukrainian Forces)

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The Chechen leader recently spoke out in support of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, however, some elite soldiers from the Chechen Republic are now fighting against Russia alongside Ukraine. NBC News’ Jay Gray has the details in addition to speaking with several of the war-hardened soldiers.
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