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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:31 am    Post subject:

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(‘Russia continues to pay severely’: Top US general on Ukraine war)

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Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley and US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin discussed the state of the war in Ukraine after they attended the tenth meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group.

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(CNN reporter explains why it was ‘important’ the US released Russian drone video)

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CNN Pentagon Correspondent Oren Liebermann and Retired Air Force Col. Cedric Leighton share remarks on the latest on the release of the Russian drone video.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:47 pm    Post subject:

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(Ben Rhodes: Russia sees Black Sea as ‘their real estate')

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NBC News Pentagon Correspondent Courtney Kube and former Obama Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes join Andrea Mitchell to weigh in on the newly released footage from the U.S. military of a Russian jet pouring fuel on its reaper drone. “The Russians believe, say, ‘Crimea is their territory, Black Sea’s kind of their real estate, stay out of our neighborhood.’ I think that's the main message of these kinds of encounters,” says Rhodes. “Part of the reason that you have this kind of hotline, and this communication from Lloyd Austin and General Milley to the Russian counterparts, is to kind of manage that escalation risk, and probably to deliver the message: ‘We're not going to get out of this airspace. We're going to keep doing this. We have every right to fly planes in international airspace.’”

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China ships assault weapons and body armor to Russia
Customs data obtained by POLITICO reveals direct shipments of Chinese assault rifles, as well as drone shipments and body armor routed via Turkey and the UAE.
https://www.politico.eu/article/chinese-companies-are-shipping-rifles-body-armor-to-russia/


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:31 am    Post subject:

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THE HAGUE (AP) - International Criminal Court issues arrest warrant for Russian President Putin because of his actions in Ukraine.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:28 am    Post subject:

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NYT: The International Criminal Court issues an arrest warrant for Putin.

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The International Criminal Court on Friday issued an arrest warrant for President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia for war crimes, saying that he bore individual criminal responsibility for the abduction and deportation of Ukrainian children since Russia’s invasion last year.

Human rights groups hailed the warrant as an important step toward ending impunity for Russian war crimes in Ukraine. The likelihood of a trial while Mr. Putin remains in power appears slim, because the court cannot try defendants in absentia and Russia has said it will not surrender its own officials.

Still, the warrant deepens Mr. Putin’s isolation in the West and could limit his movements overseas.

The court also issued a warrant for Maria Lvova-Belova, Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights. She has been the public face of a Kremlin-sponsored program in which Ukrainian children and teenagers have been taken to Russia.

Russia’s Foreign Ministry quickly dismissed the warrants, noting that it is not a party to the court.

The court said in a statement “that there are reasonable grounds to believe that each suspect bears responsibility for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population and that of unlawful transfer of population from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation.”

The I.C.C. does not recognize immunity for heads of state in cases involving war crimes, crimes against humanity or genocide.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:15 am    Post subject:

^^^^ What affect will this have? I'm sure no one will try to arrest Putin. He won't be tried by an international court in absentia?

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Asked if he believed that one day Putin would be in the dock, Khan pointed to historic trials of Nazi war criminals, former Yugoslavian President Slobodan Milošević, and former Liberian leader Charles Taylor, among others.

“All of them were mighty, powerful individuals and yet they found themselves in courtrooms,” he said.

Russia – like the US, Ukraine and China – is not a member of the ICC. As the court does not conduct trials in absentia, any Russian officials charged would either have to be handed over by Moscow or arrested outside of Russia.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:34 am    Post subject:

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More on Putin:

NYT: The International Criminal Court issues an arrest warrant for Putin.

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The International Criminal Court on Friday issued an arrest warrant for President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia for war crimes, saying that he bore individual criminal responsibility for the abduction and deportation of Ukrainian children since Russia’s invasion last year.

Human rights groups hailed the warrant as an important step toward ending impunity for Russian war crimes in Ukraine. The likelihood of a trial while Mr. Putin remains in power appears slim, because the court cannot try defendants in absentia and Russia has said it will not surrender its own officials.

Still, the warrant deepens Mr. Putin’s isolation in the West and could limit his movements overseas.

The court also issued a warrant for Maria Lvova-Belova, Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights. She has been the public face of a Kremlin-sponsored program in which Ukrainian children and teenagers have been taken to Russia.

Russia’s Foreign Ministry quickly dismissed the warrants, noting that it is not a party to the court.

The court said in a statement “that there are reasonable grounds to believe that each suspect bears responsibility for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population and that of unlawful transfer of population from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation.”

The I.C.C. does not recognize immunity for heads of state in cases involving war crimes, crimes against humanity or genocide.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:32 am    Post subject:

Yeah, just like Trump, Putin will never face consequences.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:32 pm    Post subject:

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(What does the arrest warrant for Russian president Vladimir Putin actually mean? – BBC News)

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World leaders, including US President Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have welcomed the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) decision to issue Vladimir Putin with an arrest warrant.

The Russian president has been alleged of committing war crimes, including the illegal transfer of hundreds of Ukrainian children to Russia.

But, while Mr Putin could now be arrested if he sets foot in any of the court's 123 member states, it is highly unlikely that much will come of the move, as the ICC has no powers to arrest suspects without the co-operation of a country's government.

Russia is not an ICC member country, meaning the court, located in The Hague, has no authority there.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:39 pm    Post subject:

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(US allies on alert for Russian attacks after drone downed)

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CNN's Fred Pleitgen gets an inside look at one of NATO's largest gas fields to see the security system in place against potential Russian sabotage.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:19 am    Post subject:

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(What does the arrest warrant for Russian president Vladimir Putin actually mean? – BBC News)

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World leaders, including US President Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have welcomed the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) decision to issue Vladimir Putin with an arrest warrant.

The Russian president has been alleged of committing war crimes, including the illegal transfer of hundreds of Ukrainian children to Russia.

But, while Mr Putin could now be arrested if he sets foot in any of the court's 123 member states, it is highly unlikely that much will come of the move, as the ICC has no powers to arrest suspects without the co-operation of a country's government.

Russia is not an ICC member country, meaning the court, located in The Hague, has no authority there.


It means nothing he will stay in Russia or Russian occupied territories until he dies.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:21 am    Post subject:

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(Putin makes surprise visit to key city in Ukraine devastated by Russia)

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Video appears to show Russian President Vladimir Putin in Mariupol, Ukraine. The Kremlin released a statement saying Putin made a "working visit" to the occupied city. The visit comes just days after the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Putin.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:50 pm    Post subject:

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(Hear legal expert’s prediction for Putin after arrest warrant issued)

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War crimes expert Leila Sadat weighs in on the potential for Russian President Vladimir Putin to be charged with more violations of international law after the International Criminal Court issued a warrant for his arrest.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:53 pm    Post subject:

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(Putin heckled during surprise Mariupol visit)

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Russian President Vladimir Putin was heckled during his surprise visit to the occupied southeastern Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, just days after the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for him.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:22 pm    Post subject:

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(Russia will 'lose on the global stage' even if Ukraine gets its territory back)

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The Eurasia Group's Ian Bremmer joins Morning Joe to discuss Turkey and Hungary clearing way for Finland to join NATO, Vladimir Putin's recent trip to Mariupol and the ICC issuing arrest warrants for Putin for war crimes.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:16 am    Post subject:

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(Russian military's alleged war crime caught on camera)

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A 2022 attack by Russian forces on Ukrainian civilians near Izium, Ukraine, was caught on camera and is now at the center of a war crimes investigation.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:24 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:39 pm    Post subject:

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(Leon Panetta: China ‘caught in a balancing act’ between ‘peacemaker’ and arms provider to Russia)

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Leon Panetta, the former Defense Secretary, former CIA Director, and former White House Chief of Staff joins Andrea Mitchell to react to the growing relationship between Presidents Xi and Putin, as Xi spends his second day in Moscow. “For China to remain the strongest partner, they’d have to have a strong economy. And so what I sense here is that China has to play this balancing role: saying that on one hand, they're a peacemaker, and trying to provide peace in the Ukraine. But at the same time, that makes clear that they really can't provide military arms to the Russians, because that would undermine their peacemaker role. And secondly, they're concerned that the world would impose sanctions on China which could hurt their economy. So while all of this is taking place, it's pretty clear that China is now caught in a balancing act.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:37 pm    Post subject:

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(Putin: China's peace plan can be basis for peaceful settlement in Ukraine)

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CNN's Selina Wang reports on the growing relationship between Russian President Vladimir Putin and China's leader Xi Jinping as they deepen their alliance by signing an economic deal and sharing similar views on the Ukraine war during the second day of Xi's visit to Russia. Then, CNN's Ivan Watson reports on the latest from inside Ukraine.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:46 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:14 pm    Post subject:

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(Putin warns UK over depleted uranium weapons - BBC News)

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Russia’s President Putin has warned that if the UK goes ahead with plans to supply Ukraine with shells containing depleted uranium, then Russia will be forced “to respond”.

The warning came on the second day of a visit to Moscow by China’s President Xi.

Vladimir Putin told the UK that Russia would be “forced to take action accordingly” if the UK supplies the weapons. He suggested it amounted to an escalation towards the use of nuclear arms.

In response the UK said depleted uranium had been used in munitions for decades and had nothing to do with nuclear weapons.

Depleted uranium’s great density and mass mean it can add to the effectiveness of armour-piercing weapons. However its use is controversial as the metal is radioactive and poisonous to humans and animals.

Huw Edwards presents BBC News at Ten reporting by Russia Editor Steve Rosenberg in Moscow.

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