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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:06 pm    Post subject:

We know she pays for players
We know she pays GMs

Where are the supposed money issues?
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Halflife wrote:
We know she pays for players
We know she pays GMs

Where are the supposed money issues?


She pays for some players, the ones with flashy names regardless if they fit or not. She pays for a guy playing the role of a GM, not someone who has actually worked in the league as a GM. And the results speak for themselves, she is paying for a mediocre team.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:07 am    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
We know she pays for players
We know she pays GMs

Where are the supposed money issues?


Caruso- "I'll take less to stay with the Lakers"
Jeanie - " That's too much for me sorry"

She's really pays for players doesn't she

We really would have a back court of AC and Reaves if she was will to spend more because even though she's representing the most rich and powerful city in the world, she's cheap
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LOS ANGELES — When LeBron James was sending all those unsettling messages the Lakers’ way over All-Star weekend in Cleveland — the ones that left so many wondering if his time with them was destined to come to a premature end this summer — Jeanie Buss was back in Los Angeles. The Lakers owner did not take part in the league’s annual extravaganza, meaning she could only draw meaning from James’ mysterious movements from a great distance. Or, as she ultimately decided, better to wait until everyone came back West to have a face-to-face discussion about it all. As she’d learned so many times before during a lifetime spent both observing and navigating Lakers superstar sagas, patience is often the path to progress. Yet when the Feb. 22 meeting inside the team’s training facility was over, those two hours of conversation between Buss, Lakers vice president of basketball operations Rob Pelinka and James’ longtime agent, Rich Paul of Klutch Sports, that seemed to calm these waters around the franchise centerpiece, it was as if the Men in Black agents grabbed the neuralyzer and tried to wipe the media relations mayhem from our collective memory. Paul made a statement supporting the Lakers’ brass, insisting that James wasn’t trying to push Pelinka out of the front office and even indicating that they had all spent time “laughing and catching up” during the meeting. James did an about-face of his own, downplaying the things he had said and done — both publicly and privately — while taking aim at the media along the way. So… there’s nothing to see here, right? Wrong. True to form, and despite the unwatchable nature of the on-court product for so much of the season, there’s no place more interesting than Laker Land right now. At least when it comes to the palace intrigue. And after seeking clarity from many of the sources who know this situation best, it’s time to take an updated look behind the purple-and-gold curtain. Until further notice, this latest Lakers saga starts with the man who, well, started all of this with his cryptic comments and social media signaling.

The meeting and its meaning (for LeBron)

It would have been one thing if James’ passive-aggressive ploys continued when he returned to L.A. With one season left on his deal, and with the fork-in-the-road decision nearing in the form of a two-year, $97.1 million extension that he can be offered on Aug. 4, that sort of continued mood would have made it even more clear that his eyes were roaming elsewhere.

Instead, James has quieted the noise while making it clear that he has no interest in relocating anytime soon. “You know, I think it’s important that (it) always stays transparent between us and we don’t really care about the outside noise,” James told reporters on Feb. 26 when asked about the meeting. “ I mean, I think a lot of people are, to be honest with you, jealous of the relationship that Rich has with the front office and with this team, and the relationship that I have (and) that I’ve grown over the last four years. I mean, that’s what I think it boils down to.” Not only did he seem to walk back some of the salty sentiments shared both before and during the All-Star break, but he showed great restraint while discussing the barrage of boos from Lakers fans during their blowout loss to New Orleans on Feb. 27. When it comes to the delicate relationship between a star player and the team’s (rabid) fanbase, that’s just not the sort of thing you do if you’ve decided it’s time to push your way out of town. More importantly, there’s this: When you talk to people close to James, there isn’t the slightest bit of hesitancy to discuss the Lakers roster for next season and the brainstorming that has already begun to fix it. As behind-the-scenes signs go, it doesn’t get much more telling than that. What’s more, there’s the reality that the 2020 title they all won inside the Orlando bubble created a cushion when it comes to James and his Lakers legacy. He’s clearly hungry for more, as evidenced by the fact that he’s one of just two players averaging at least 29 points, eight rebounds and six assists (Milwaukee’s Giannis Antetokounmpo is the other). Or, more specifically, his spectacular 56-point outing in a win against Golden State on Saturday night that snapped the Lakers’ four-game losing streak and marked just the fourth time that a player scored 50-plus points after turning 37 (Michael Jordan, the late Kobe Bryant and Jamal Crawford are the others). But James also knows what it meant for this franchise to win its 17th trophy, the one that tied the rival Boston Celtics for the league lead and came amid some of the most challenging off-court circumstances in league history. That feeling of pride, and the sense that the accomplishment was perhaps even tougher than normal because of the league’s unique landscape at the time, is shared all throughout the organization. What’s more, it’s worth remembering that there have already been severe momentum swings in both directions during James’ four-year-long Lakers tenure. It was just three years ago, mind you, when Magic Johnson’s abrupt departure from the front office led to questions about Pelinka’s future before the Anthony Davis trade turned it all around. As for this team, it has been well-chronicled that the Russell Westbrook addition last summer was orchestrated by James and Davis and, thus, a fair amount of culpability lies at their feet. How does his stated desire to play with his son, Bronny, at the end of his own career come into play? There’s no way of knowing just yet, if only because there are so many unknowns on that front. He’s a junior at Sierra Canyon High in Los Angeles at the moment, one who is ranked 43rd in ESPN’s 2023 recruiting database. Based on current league rules, he’ll be draft-eligible in 2024 (the Lakers have no first-round picks that year, but do have a second-rounder). From Buss’ perspective, sources say her focus is on the macro elements of the partnership with James. His happiness matters a great deal, but so does his trust. Hence the reason you saw such staunch support from Paul in his post-meeting statement.

The Inner Circle

Before and after the meeting, this much remained clear about Buss: Even if there’s criticism coming from all corners, she’s unapologetic about the counsel she keeps and the people she chooses to empower. And often, it seems, the significance of the history she has with each of her chosen allies is lost on most observers. Take Pelinka, for example, the longtime agent for Bryant and close friend of Buss, who sources say still has her full support and trust. Had Bryant not passed away in that horrific helicopter accident on Jan. 26, 2020, Buss had plans of offering him a hands-on role in the front office in the near future. He had already made a significant impact on the franchise in retirement, compelling Jeanie to fire her brother Jim from his front office position during a Feb. 2017 lunch in Newport Beach. The path to landing LeBron, Bryant had said back then, included Jeanie channeling her inner Daenerys Targaryen — the “Mother of Dragons” from Game of Thrones — and making the tough decisions as part of the preparation for James’ free agency.

The Lakers legend had made it clear at the time that he was too busy with his non-basketball businesses to run a front office, but it’s clear the door would remain wide open for a role in which he shared his perspective and voice. Pelinka, in essence, now represents both himself and Bryant in that role. And those kinds of ties, it’s clear, aren’t so easily severed. Then there are the Rambises. Kurt Rambis remains incredibly influential, the former Laker and Phil Jackson friend/coaching disciple acting as Pelinka’s right-hand man in the front office under the title of senior basketball advisor. His failures in non-Lakers ventures, both as head coach in Minnesota and the Knicks when he worked under Jackson, simply don’t matter when it comes to the calculus or his stature here. As we’ve written before, Kurt’s wife and best friend of Jeanie, Linda, was hired by the late Dr. Jerry Buss to work in the Lakers marketing department in the late 1970s and became partners with Jeanie when they ran the L.A. Strings of the World Team Tennis League together. They made a complementary pair in Dr. Buss’ eyes, both in business style and personality. To this day, with Linda’s far-reaching and ambiguous Lakers role often inspiring confusion and criticism both inside the organization and out, that long-ago endorsement from Dr. Buss still matters a great deal in terms of the unique dynamics here. In terms of the James factor, and the question of whether he has an issue with the Lakers’ power structure that is so often questioned by others, sources close to him continue to insist he does not. But the voices that still matter, as we’ve been reminded of late, don’t stop there. As Jeanie told our Bill Oram recently, she still relies on Johnson in the kind of way that surely impacts her view of this team and the uncertain future ahead. “To me, he’s still working with us,” she said. “In terms of his support, his wisdom, his insight, I freely call on him as needed.” He’s not the only one serving that purpose, either. Sources say Jackson, the Lakers legend and ex-fiancé of Buss, whose presence at Saturday’s win against Golden State was highlighted by the team’s Twitter account, has been in frequent contact with Buss about team matters all season long. The complicated and often uncomfortable dynamics surrounding the Westbrook situation, in particular, are known to have drawn his interest. As unofficial consultants go, they don’t get much more experienced or credible than Jackson. Truth be told, Buss’ desire to hear Jackson’s point of view on this team should surprise no one. Especially because of his close ties with Rambis, who — like Pelinka with Bryant — has the kind of close connection with Jackson that has long been considered a factor when it comes to his own stature. Jackson, who lives in Los Angeles during the winter months as a respite from his Montana home base, has been extremely close with Rambis for decades. They coached together during two of Jackson’s five Lakers titles (2002 and 2009), then came close to reuniting in 2012 when then-Lakers executives Mitch Kupchak and Jim Buss stunned the NBA world by picking Mike D’Antoni instead. Rambis, who was an analyst for the team’s television network at the time, was openly critical of the organization’s handling of Jackson before joining D’Antoni’s staff as an assistant a year later. Rambis later became the Knicks associate head coach under Jackson (who was then the president of basketball operations) after Derek Fisher was fired in February 2016. For two decades or so, in other words, one has rarely strayed far from the other. When Vogel was hired by the Lakers in May 2019, it was reported that Jackson and Rambis both played a pivotal part in the choice. Vogel had been a Lakers advance scout during Jackson’s Lakers tenure (2005-06), and later went on to interview with Jackson for the Knicks coaching job before being edged out by Jeff Hornacek as Rambis’ replacement. “Phil Jackson is a role model, and basically a coaching idol of mine,” Vogel once told Lakers.com. Still, it’s unclear how the revelation that Jackson’s voice matters again might sit with others — most notably James. Jackson’s infamous use of the word ‘posse’ to describe James’ associates in a 2016 interview with ESPN drew the ire of James and his business partner, Maverick Carter, with James later saying so bluntly, “I’m not a fan of Phil Jackson.” And then there was James’ defense of his longtime friend and fellow Laker, Carmelo Anthony. As James said openly back in early November 2017, he took exception to the way Jackson handled Anthony’s situation with the Knicks that led to his trade demand and the deal that sent him to Oklahoma City in September 2017. It’s unclear if Jackson might take on any kind of formal role in the future, but this much we know now: Jeanie is in the process of collecting trusted opinions and deciding what comes next.

The Road Ahead

This Lakers season isn’t over just yet, even if it feels that way on most nights. At 28-35, and with 19 games left, they’re ninth in the West and headed for a Play-In Tournament entry where it would take two wins to qualify for the first round (the Clippers are 4 ½ games ahead in eighth, New Orleans is 1 ½ games behind in 10th and 11th-place Portland is three games behind). But with Davis still a ways out from his expected return from the mid-foot sprain suffered in mid-February, and the Lakers having lost 16 of their last 23 games, hope is fleeting. “If AD is able to come back,” Vogel recently said of the Lakers forward who will be re-evaluated on March 17, “and we catch the right matchup or catch a team at the right time and if we’re able to catch fire at the right time, we’re going to have a chance.” That’s a lot of ‘and’s, though. The harsh truth is that another offseason of change, for all intents and purposes, is right around the corner. As we reported in mid-January, Vogel was already close to being fired after the Lakers’ blowout loss at Denver on Jan. 15. With one season left on his deal, all signs point to him being replaced in the summer unless there is, in fact, a stunning playoff run in their future (as one source put it, advancing to the second round or conference finals — unlikely as that appears — would greatly improve his chances). That final decision, of course, is yet to be made. As for Westbrook, who has one season left on his deal worth $47 million, it’s hard to imagine him returning next season. Yet while there are strong signs that his exit is a foregone conclusion, his contract remains massive and it always takes two to tango. The Lakers could choose to waive and stretch Westbrook’s deal as well (for salary cap purposes, his remaining money would be applied to the next three seasons). Sources say the coaching staff made an unsuccessful push for Westbrook to be traded before the Feb. 10 deadline, when the Lakers passed on Houston’s John Wall, in part, because of the draft considerations that it would have required to make the deal. There were also significant concerns about the fact that Wall hadn’t played all season and, thus, didn’t instill confidence in his ability to help the Lakers turn their season around. Yet now, it appears, the friction between Westbrook and the coaching staff has only grown worse. Sources confirmed the recent rising of tensions between Westbrook and the coaching staff, which were first reported by Marc Stein. If only for a night, Westbrook’s 20-point, four-assist, four-rebound, plus-13 outing against the Warriors on Saturday offered a reminder that he is capable of being part of the solution. But the performance was an outlier, to say the least. James, meanwhile, now appears content to let all these answers surface in the summertime. He has plenty to play for beyond the playoffs, what with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s all-time scoring record within reach by next season if he continues at this historic pace. To do it in a Lakers jersey, and on a team that’s back to contending for a title that would be his fifth and their league-leading 18th, would be the dream. But first, they must wake from this season’s nightmare.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:06 am    Post subject:

What this article speaks to me is that the Rambis influence along with Magic and Phil being influences in the Lakers org is never going to change. It sounds ironclad by Jeanie. I’m neutral on Pelinka.

Embarrassing.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:14 am    Post subject:

That article sounds like it’s sourced directly from Jeanie or in her circle at parts, which is the craziest thing. This is how she wants things to be. It’s maddening
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:20 am    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
What this article speaks to me is that the Rambis influence along with Magic and Phil being influences in the Lakers org is never going to change. It sounds ironclad by Jeanie. I’m neutral on Pelinka.

Embarrassing.


Pelinka seems like he’s just there to be the “what would kobe do?” and use your law degree to read the CBA and crunch numbers with your team guy.

Yeah Jeanie is pushing back on all this pressure. Her form of being passive aggressive.

Between Magic and Klutch, we may never see another first round pick until 2035.

Rambii probably just roam around the halls and give Jeanie their thoughts.

I actually feel bad for Vogel, who will be the scapegoat for 2021-22.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:30 am    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
What this article speaks to me is that the Rambis influence along with Magic and Phil being influences in the Lakers org is never going to change. It sounds ironclad by Jeanie. I’m neutral on Pelinka.

Embarrassing.


Pelinka seems like he’s just there to be the “what would kobe do?” and use your law degree to read the CBA and crunch numbers with your team guy.

Yeah Jeanie is pushing back on all this pressure. Her form of being passive aggressive.

Between Magic and Klutch, we may never see another first round pick until 2035.

Rambii probably just roam around the halls and give Jeanie their thoughts.

I actually feel bad for Vogel, who will be the scapegoat for 2021-22.


Rambis does a whole lot more than that. He’s been out here in practice and in coach meetings.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:31 am    Post subject:

jeanie blew it on two accounts. which are not damning, by any stretch. in business... "you can't with 'em all".

she HAD to have known trading for Russ (plus that pick) was a BAD IDEA! i mean, common fans KNEW IT, so you'd figure NBA professionals were in her ear saying "ABORT"!

but she trusted in LBJ knowing what he was talking about. maybe he knew something no one else did? now that it backfired, he HAS TO take the blame. period. not deflect onto her for this catastrophe.

and she cheeped out on paying caruso. that was absurd. yeah, yeah, the luxury tax had was like an additional $40M, right? BUT, that's only if we kept him the entire season, right? she should have paid him. either he's intrinsic to our success, or she could have requested he be traded by the deadline if she didn't wanna pony up the tax. it would have bought her some options.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:48 am    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
What this article speaks to me is that the Rambis influence along with Magic and Phil being influences in the Lakers org is never going to change. It sounds ironclad by Jeanie. I’m neutral on Pelinka.

Embarrassing.


Pelinka seems like he’s just there to be the “what would kobe do?” and use your law degree to read the CBA and crunch numbers with your team guy.

Yeah Jeanie is pushing back on all this pressure. Her form of being passive aggressive.

Between Magic and Klutch, we may never see another first round pick until 2035.

Rambii probably just roam around the halls and give Jeanie their thoughts.

I actually feel bad for Vogel, who will be the scapegoat for 2021-22.


Rambis does a whole lot more than that. He’s been out here in practice and in coach meetings.


Oh yeah for sure. He is there to see what’s going on, give his “expertise” and if anyone dares question him he will run up the chain to Jeanie and let her know.

And this is well documented too. Multiple articles over the years have talked about Kurt’s involvement in basketball ops.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:29 am    Post subject:

If caruso is the only guy we can point to as "not paying players". That means she pays players.

Curious who the elite GMs are? I know there are a few, but most arent better than Rob.

How many coaches are better than frank. i know there are a few but most arent.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:43 am    Post subject:

I just hate seeing ex-lakers being around the team, especially not at a supervisory roles. They are only taking advantage of Jeannie Buss’ nostalgic personality. Magic, Phil Jackson and Kurt Rambis all failed miserably at elsewhere in the league. They found a sucker in Jeannie Buss, they have no business associate with the team other than in commemorative occasions.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:44 am    Post subject:

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Curious who the elite GMs are? I know there are a few, but most arent better than Rob.


We've been through this. To date, Pelinka has done little to establish himself as a competent GM. Let's flip it around: Other than maybe the GM in Sacramento, who is worse than Pelinka? If you want to throw out the bubble title as validation of Pelinka, see our prior discussion of Joe Dumars.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:47 am    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
If caruso is the only guy we can point to as "not paying players". That means she pays players.

Curious who the elite GMs are? I know there are a few, but most arent better than Rob.

How many coaches are better than frank. i know there are a few but most arent.


Pelinka isn’t the best GM in LA and Vogel isn’t the best coach in LA.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:47 am    Post subject:

Phil Jackson and Kurt back in power…no wonder we look like Knicks west
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Phil Jackson and Kurt back in power…no wonder we look like Knicks west


Hate to see unqualified people get power because who they know and the stupid backward thinking ownership. Why does laker brand deserve this?
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Phil Jackson and Kurt back in power…no wonder we look like Knicks west


Hate to see unqualified people get power because who they know and the stupid backward thinking ownership. Why does laker brand deserve this?


There have been many, many examples of someone building something special and then their kids destroying it. Locally we have just had the demise of a longtime auto dealership because the spoiled kids never bothered to learn how to run a business. This is how the franchise will be run in the future as well as today.
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If caruso is the only guy we can point to as "not paying players". That means she pays players.

Curious who the elite GMs are? I know there are a few, but most arent better than Rob.

How many coaches are better than frank. i know there are a few but most arent.


Pelinka isn’t the best GM in LA and Vogel isn’t the best coach in LA.

we don't know.
The other team:
Mortgaged their future for an often-injured player who has a nickname based around choking. Who needs surgery

Paid an elite guy with a seemingly degenerative lower limb issue who they knew would be on the bench for most of, if not the whole year. Had to buy his family members houses just to give him their money.

A coach who I like but who has players that fit his style

Rob/Jeanie
Won a ring.
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venturalakersfan wrote:
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Phil Jackson and Kurt back in power…no wonder we look like Knicks west


Hate to see unqualified people get power because who they know and the stupid backward thinking ownership. Why does laker brand deserve this?


There have been many, many examples of someone building something special and then their kids destroying it. Locally we have just had the demise of a longtime auto dealership because the spoiled kids never bothered to learn how to run a business. This is how the franchise will be run in the future as well as today.


Agreed, but usually it’s the other way around. Parents built a successful company and when kids took over they got rid of all the old staff and implemented new ways to run company without thinking it through. That is normal, what Jeannie Buss doing right now is NOT normal. Frankly had Dr Buss still alive today I would bet he’s more forward thinking on how to run a team than his kids.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:03 pm    Post subject:

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Jeanie is a great owner. We should all be grateful that she won the power struggle over her idiot brother, Jimbo Buss.


You obviously don’t know who the real idiot is.



Wait, aren't you the same guy who boasted that Markelle Fultz would become a surefire Superstar in the league and wished the Lakers would give up a King's ransom to draft him? All the while attacking me when I predicted he'd be a Colossal BUST and that Ainge had no desires to draft him as he was just posturing to finagle more picks out of any sucker who traded for him (Suxers).

How'd that work out for you?

My point being... you've lost any credibility to call anyone else an idiot.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:42 pm    Post subject:

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Jeanie is a great owner. We should all be grateful that she won the power struggle over her idiot brother, Jimbo Buss.


Jim and Mitch combo is 100000 times better than the sh*t show Jeannie Buss and Rambii conducting nowadays. don't put it all on Pelinka and Klutch, Jeannie is the damn owner, she has to own up to whatever comes toward her, because she, as the owner SIGNED OFF ON EVERYTHING.

at least when Jim and Mitch were here, we had real basketball people doing their work. Jim was pretty much hands off and let Mitch does his thing (good or bad). everyone was making fun of Jim and Chaz, but last time i checked Chaz had never held any position inside the Laker organization, and Jeannie Buss appointed her pet Rambii as the shadow owner. last time i checked, everything Lakers did under Jim/Mitch were tight lipped, no leakage of any kind from inside. well, except when Jeannie Buss went on radios and sabotage her brother.

Jeannie Buss got that bubble tournament ring because she was lucked out with LeBron wanting to end his career in LA. remember the Hollywood themed shows Jeannie put up when she tried to court a younger Melo and Aldridge?

bottomline, Jim/Mitch were much MUCH more professional than the owner/shadow owner we have in place now.



Jeanie has publicity stated multiple times that she has no clue when it comes to making basketball personnel decisions. That's why she hires people to make those decisions and takes a hands-off approach. So to suggest she "signed off on everything" couldn't be more wrong. I mean if your parents handed you the car key to their brand new luxury car cause they trust you and you drag race at 150mph while drunk and wreck it... does that mean they signed off on everything you did that night? Of course not.

Jeanie is one of those rare owners who is self-aware and allows people she hires to do their jobs without looking over their shoulders or micro-managing. I mean how would you like to have Mark Cuban or Jerry Jones as the Lakers' owner? That would be a nightmare. Jeanie won an NBA Championship, the first female NBA owner to do so, and nothing can take that accomplishment away from her. That wouldn't be possible had Jimbo continued to be in charge of the franchise.

And what makes you think Jimbo was a "basketball person"? His time as President of his father's indoor soccer team that went bellyup or his time as a horse trainer? What's funny is it was Jimbo who ran to the press to brag that if Lakers don't content for a WC Championship within 3 years, he'd step down. So the idiot got himself fired with his own big mouth.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:46 pm    Post subject:

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Jeanie is a great owner. We should all be grateful that she won the power struggle over her idiot brother, Jimbo Buss.


You obviously don’t know who the real idiot is.



Wait, aren't you the same guy who boasted that Markelle Fultz would become a surefire Superstar in the league and wished the Lakers would give up a King's ransom to draft him? All the while attacking me when I predicted he'd be a Colossal BUST and that Ainge had no desires to draft him as he was just posturing to finagle more picks out of any sucker who traded for him (Suxers).

How'd that work out for you?

My point being... you've lost any credibility to call anyone else an idiot.


No, but try again. I have seen enough of Jeanie to call her an idiot. Jim probably falls into that category too.
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Jeanie has publicity stated multiple times that she has no clue when it comes to making basketball personnel decisions. That's why she hires people to make those decisions and takes a hands-off approach. So to suggest she "signed off on everything" couldn't be more wrong. ...

Jeanie is one of those rare owners who is self-aware and allows people she hires to do their jobs without looking over their shoulders or micro-managing.


My impression is that Jeanie makes a lot of public statements like this in an attempt to avoid blame when things go bad. I don't have a clue how involved she is, or what she does, on a day-to-day basis.

That said, if she hires people and gives them card blanche to make decisions, and they make bad decisions, she shares part of the blame for giving power to the wrong people.
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When there is a question regarding investing $90 mil in a player, you can be sure that ownership buys off on it.
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Jeannie Buss hires basketball person and let them do work? You meant Kurt Rambis, magic. Byron Scott, pelinka and pretty soon Phil Jackson? She has never hired a true basketball person without any laker connections. She only hires the people she familiar with, quality be damned. And the worst thing is she’s sensitive, she loves going on radio to cause unnecessary drama to benefit her own public image. I’d take Jim Buss over Jeannie Buss, Phil Jackson and his disciples any day of the week, twice on Sunday.
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