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| Seems like Ham inherited a lot of Vogel's staff. Maybe he can poach some assistant coaches from the Bucks now that Bud has been replaced. |
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Polarbear
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: |
Go back and read it again or don’t I’m not sure that anything I say is going to change your idiot mind |
Ohh ohh you have went to call people idiots..lol. I understand you dont like this coffee (logic). All i said was could you prove why what he said was wrong. Some instances..Not just "We went to the wcf"...can you give some actual reasons of something he idd that made the difference of us winning a game. Something you can point out and say ahhh haa by this he did we won? |
Please don’t call what you spewing here logic it’s insulting
You look at what he has done by looking at the results. If he was a truly awful coach, he would not of held this team together through the injuries, and found a way to get a group of players playing together with so little time before the playoffs and then coaching them through from the 13th seed through the playing through two matchups, including the reigning NBA champions to the Western Conference finals one game away from the finals. The results are my proof and you know why use the results because you have no (bleep) idea what he is saying in those i timeouts, you have no idea what coaching methods he is using you literally have no idea |
(Spades Metaphor)No brah.. you not skating that jack over the table..Naaaa. You saying generalizations but you giving no proof of what he did to get wins.
What offensive scheme he used? OR defensive schemes to win a game?
No instances of rotations to get the win?..nothing.
You know why you cant and not? Because what I got in my "Spades Hand"...ala Small Ball Lineup? Keeping AD at the Center Position....Not Telling LBJ to stop with those supid thress....These some of the cards I can put on the table ...by the way those arent all the cards in my hand.
See?.I give instances and examples of why many call him a idiot..i dont give "genralizations"..And the previous poster gave the same instances..and you seem unable to refute them as this has happened all year. 
Also you said i dont (bleep) know what he says in those huddles and timeouts...Well i sure know if its anyhing like his half time talks its bad as EVERY 3rd Qtr the team comes out looking like unmotivated slow hot trash
Wwwwait a minute? What timeouts?..Is that when we 20pts down or when a team has walk our huge leads down and now we down 10pts?
I actually have fun debating with you.  |
You’re exhausting
You’re complaining about small ball lineups we made it to the Western Conference finals with small ball lineups
You’re going to tell LeBron James not to shoot threes first of all you don’t tell LeBron James anything as a coach no coach would and you do realize he was injured. Much easier to sit out there on the perimeter and Chuck threes whenever you’re hurt.
You have absolutely no idea what offenses or defensive schemes you he used unless you were in the huddle and then practice you don’t know (bleep)
Ham is slow on his line of rotations. I think that’s part of being a rookie head coach, but he did adapt to them in the sun series to get us pass that into the Nuggets nobody was beating the Nuggets this year.
Keeping Anthony Davis at the center position what lineup would you rather have seen mamba was injured. The other center was a straight free agent who was good in spurts and they didn’t always play Anthony Davis at the center position. Sometimes they moved him to the Rover on the Defense and Played, either Hachimura or LeBron James at center you didn’t notice that right?
Your points have no points you’re actually embarrassing yourself |
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JustaObserver
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| Polarbear wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: |
Go back and read it again or don’t I’m not sure that anything I say is going to change your idiot mind |
Ohh ohh you have went to call people idiots..lol. I understand you dont like this coffee (logic). All i said was could you prove why what he said was wrong. Some instances..Not just "We went to the wcf"...can you give some actual reasons of something he idd that made the difference of us winning a game. Something you can point out and say ahhh haa by this he did we won? |
Please don’t call what you spewing here logic it’s insulting
You look at what he has done by looking at the results. If he was a truly awful coach, he would not of held this team together through the injuries, and found a way to get a group of players playing together with so little time before the playoffs and then coaching them through from the 13th seed through the playing through two matchups, including the reigning NBA champions to the Western Conference finals one game away from the finals. The results are my proof and you know why use the results because you have no (bleep) idea what he is saying in those i timeouts, you have no idea what coaching methods he is using you literally have no idea |
(Spades Metaphor)No brah.. you not skating that jack over the table..Naaaa. You saying generalizations but you giving no proof of what he did to get wins.
What offensive scheme he used? OR defensive schemes to win a game?
No instances of rotations to get the win?..nothing.
You know why you cant and not? Because what I got in my "Spades Hand"...ala Small Ball Lineup? Keeping AD at the Center Position....Not Telling LBJ to stop with those supid thress....These some of the cards I can put on the table ...by the way those arent all the cards in my hand.
See?.I give instances and examples of why many call him a idiot..i dont give "genralizations"..And the previous poster gave the same instances..and you seem unable to refute them as this has happened all year.
Also you said i dont (bleep) know what he says in those huddles and timeouts...Well i sure know if its anyhing like his half time talks its bad as EVERY 3rd Qtr the team comes out looking like unmotivated slow hot trash
Wwwwait a minute? What timeouts?..Is that when we 20pts down or when a team has walk our huge leads down and now we down 10pts?
I actually have fun debating with you. |
You’re exhausting
You’re complaining about small ball lineups we made it to the Western Conference finals with small ball lineups
You’re going to tell LeBron James not to shoot threes first of all you don’t tell LeBron James anything as a coach no coach would and you do realize he was injured. Much easier to sit out there on the perimeter and Chuck threes whenever you’re hurt.
You have absolutely no idea what offenses or defensive schemes you he used unless you were in the huddle and then practice you don’t know (bleep)
Ham is slow on his line of rotations. I think that’s part of being a rookie head coach, but he did adapt to them in the sun series to get us pass that into the Nuggets nobody was beating the Nuggets this year.
Keeping Anthony Davis at the center position what lineup would you rather have seen mamba was injured. The other center was a straight free agent who was good in spurts and they didn’t always play Anthony Davis at the center position. Sometimes they moved him to the Rover on the Defense and Played, either Hachimura or LeBron James at center you didn’t notice that right?
Your points have no points you’re actually embarrassing yourself |
Was that small ball lineup a contriubutoin to that? Noooooo. I have already told you this team wins in spite of him putting most times behind the 8 ball.
Once again sir..tell me what he has done that contibuted to them going to the WCF?
Also you want to talk about the Nuggets..brah..how many lousy defensive rotations stategies he had...lets count the ways..Doubling Jokic so everybody else can go off? playing small ball again..which lead to another blowout in the 3rd.
and here is another one of your Gems:
"Sometimes they moved him(AD) to the Rover on the Defense and Played, either Hachimura or LeBron James at center you didn’t notice that right?" Yeah i saw it..question..why didnt he continue doing it? Ill tell you because he stupid.
Need Instances? Need Proof of this?
How about putting in TT inearlier than the last game? That actually bothered Jokic..However Dollar Late.Dollar Short. How about not leaving Rui on Jokic while AD Roams or even using TT for that until Denver thiger it out as thats when we actually started taking over or getting back into the game. What does ham do to Rui..Bench him nad leaves from doing it again...right or wrong?
You cant use rookie coach mistake..thats basic coaching.... He just horrible at recogizing what works and what doesnt until its too late. Im not even going to talk about leaving DLO in when even the Denver Coach IS TELLING YOU WHAT HE GOING TO DO EVERY GAME...soooo im not even going there.
Ham is slow on the uptake on the rotations? For reallll? Like leaving beasely in for the rest of the reg season and seeing it fail every game? Which is another instance of him 8 balling the team. Everybody see its not working..but he leaves him in trying to be a 3 & D guy and its not working..he rather let LW4 rot on the bench all that time till Bease lost confidence and started getting death threats,,,,and now that instance would also hunt DLO as he did the same stupid crap to him.
The Suns Series? We play the suns....we played GSW..and you can thank Poole and Klay for stinking it up...without them stinking it up..it might have been a different matter. Before you say see? See he did that...he could have ended the series even quicker if the iidiot would have gave LW4 more time also played TT to guard draymond and let AD roam free...but nnoooooooo.
See this is the same crap that got Thomas Bryant mad because village idiot Ham after TB showed that he can start as Center and do good..he wanted to sit him right back on the bench in no mans land once AD came back. Even TB recognize Ham didnt know what he was doing. TB even decided to rot on Denver's bench and get a ring than fool with this village idiot.
As for what centers i would have liked to see ...I think i already answered those above...
Next you talk about HE cant tell LBJ to stop shooting 3s...Well what is his job then? I thought it was to Coach? Am i wrong? So you saying LBJ can just do what he wants to do? Annd thats why we lost Game 2 with Denver because of Le Curry James.
Talk about embarrassing? You going to song and dance again over all the things i showed that has happended...there is TAPE to back it up.....you not going to refute noooooone of it.
...because well... you cant..its on tape. |
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Polarbear
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Ham was slow to go to Tristan Thompson center. He was slow with making changes to his rotations, but let’s keep in mind that Tristan hadn’t played an ounce of basketball before that this was a break in glass in case of emergency type thing it wasn’t. Hey we’re going to keep Tristan Thompson in our back pocket, a rookie head coach is going to go with what he knows if you wanna blame him for being rookie, so be it
We won with those small ball lineups a lot more than what we lost hopefully this year if they continue to want to use small little ball lineups, they bring in some players that are bigger at guard
I will say it again since you really have a hard time with this. You have absolutely no idea what is being drawn up an office and defense you’re not in the huddles you’re not in the timeouts you’re not a practice you don’t know anything now I’m not claiming to know what they are either because I wasn’t there, but I’m not the one that keeps on harping on it
If you’re looking for a head coach that sit out there and makes faces screams at the refs gets thrown out of games. All that bluster Darvin ham is not your man. He is a Gentlemans coach. He’s nice to the refs because he knows that we don’t want them against us he gives credit to the other team, he gives people respect and treats men like men he doesn’t throw his players under the bus I personally like a coach that never changes facial expressions during a game because he is focused on what is going on when something bad happens he’s already onto the next instead of dwelling on what just happened |
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| Lakersfan1211 wrote: | | Quote: | Phoenix Suns are adding South Bay Lakers head coach Miles Simon and John Lucas III to the coaching staff of Frank Vogel, league sources tell
@NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.Both worked under Vogel as assistants with the Los Angeles Lakers. |
Seems like every previous Laker assistant coach enjoyed working with Vogel, I remember seeing Vogel and Handy throwing footballs to each other while Bron and others were at football field to work out as well. |
The most significant piece of the Vogel staff is still here though - Handy. That guy has been part of the Raptors title team and the Lakers and has a good accord with players. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | | Lakersfan1211 wrote: | | Quote: | Phoenix Suns are adding South Bay Lakers head coach Miles Simon and John Lucas III to the coaching staff of Frank Vogel, league sources tell
@NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.Both worked under Vogel as assistants with the Los Angeles Lakers. |
Seems like every previous Laker assistant coach enjoyed working with Vogel, I remember seeing Vogel and Handy throwing footballs to each other while Bron and others were at football field to work out as well. |
The most significant piece of the Vogel staff is still here though - Handy. That guy has been part of the Raptors title team and the Lakers and has a good accord with players. |
Handy was an assistant with the Cavs during Lebron's second stint. I suspect that he is waiting around for someone to offer him a head coaching position, but player development coaches are usually not the top targets. In general, assistant coaches will pursue better money and opportunities to climb the career ladder. If the Suns make him the right offer, I'm sure that he'd consider it. The Nets tried to poach him a few years ago.
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: |
Go back and read it again or don’t I’m not sure that anything I say is going to change your idiot mind |
Ohh ohh you have went to call people idiots..lol. I understand you dont like this coffee (logic). All i said was could you prove why what he said was wrong. Some instances..Not just "We went to the wcf"...can you give some actual reasons of something he idd that made the difference of us winning a game. Something you can point out and say ahhh haa by this he did we won? |
Please don’t call what you spewing here logic it’s insulting
You look at what he has done by looking at the results. If he was a truly awful coach, he would not of held this team together through the injuries, and found a way to get a group of players playing together with so little time before the playoffs and then coaching them through from the 13th seed through the playing through two matchups, including the reigning NBA champions to the Western Conference finals one game away from the finals. The results are my proof and you know why use the results because you have no (bleep) idea what he is saying in those i timeouts, you have no idea what coaching methods he is using you literally have no idea |
(Spades Metaphor)No brah.. you not skating that jack over the table..Naaaa. You saying generalizations but you giving no proof of what he did to get wins.
What offensive scheme he used? OR defensive schemes to win a game?
No instances of rotations to get the win?..nothing.
You know why you cant and not? Because what I got in my "Spades Hand"...ala Small Ball Lineup? Keeping AD at the Center Position....Not Telling LBJ to stop with those supid thress....These some of the cards I can put on the table ...by the way those arent all the cards in my hand.
See?.I give instances and examples of why many call him a idiot..i dont give "genralizations"..And the previous poster gave the same instances..and you seem unable to refute them as this has happened all year.
Also you said i dont (bleep) know what he says in those huddles and timeouts...Well i sure know if its anyhing like his half time talks its bad as EVERY 3rd Qtr the team comes out looking like unmotivated slow hot trash
Wwwwait a minute? What timeouts?..Is that when we 20pts down or when a team has walk our huge leads down and now we down 10pts?
I actually have fun debating with you. |
You’re exhausting
You’re complaining about small ball lineups we made it to the Western Conference finals with small ball lineups
You’re going to tell LeBron James not to shoot threes first of all you don’t tell LeBron James anything as a coach no coach would and you do realize he was injured. Much easier to sit out there on the perimeter and Chuck threes whenever you’re hurt.
You have absolutely no idea what offenses or defensive schemes you he used unless you were in the huddle and then practice you don’t know (bleep)
Ham is slow on his line of rotations. I think that’s part of being a rookie head coach, but he did adapt to them in the sun series to get us pass that into the Nuggets nobody was beating the Nuggets this year.
Keeping Anthony Davis at the center position what lineup would you rather have seen mamba was injured. The other center was a straight free agent who was good in spurts and they didn’t always play Anthony Davis at the center position. Sometimes they moved him to the Rover on the Defense and Played, either Hachimura or LeBron James at center you didn’t notice that right?
Your points have no points you’re actually embarrassing yourself |
Was that small ball lineup a contriubutoin to that? Noooooo. I have already told you this team wins in spite of him putting most times behind the 8 ball.
Once again sir..tell me what he has done that contibuted to them going to the WCF?
Also you want to talk about the Nuggets..brah..how many lousy defensive rotations stategies he had...lets count the ways..Doubling Jokic so everybody else can go off? playing small ball again..which lead to another blowout in the 3rd.
and here is another one of your Gems:
"Sometimes they moved him(AD) to the Rover on the Defense and Played, either Hachimura or LeBron James at center you didn’t notice that right?" Yeah i saw it..question..why didnt he continue doing it? Ill tell you because he stupid.
Need Instances? Need Proof of this?
How about putting in TT inearlier than the last game? That actually bothered Jokic..However Dollar Late.Dollar Short. How about not leaving Rui on Jokic while AD Roams or even using TT for that until Denver thiger it out as thats when we actually started taking over or getting back into the game. What does ham do to Rui..Bench him nad leaves from doing it again...right or wrong?
You cant use rookie coach mistake..thats basic coaching.... He just horrible at recogizing what works and what doesnt until its too late. Im not even going to talk about leaving DLO in when even the Denver Coach IS TELLING YOU WHAT HE GOING TO DO EVERY GAME...soooo im not even going there.
Ham is slow on the uptake on the rotations? For reallll? Like leaving beasely in for the rest of the reg season and seeing it fail every game? Which is another instance of him 8 balling the team. Everybody see its not working..but he leaves him in trying to be a 3 & D guy and its not working..he rather let LW4 rot on the bench all that time till Bease lost confidence and started getting death threats,,,,and now that instance would also hunt DLO as he did the same stupid crap to him.
The Suns Series? We play the suns....we played GSW..and you can thank Poole and Klay for stinking it up...without them stinking it up..it might have been a different matter. Before you say see? See he did that...he could have ended the series even quicker if the iidiot would have gave LW4 more time also played TT to guard draymond and let AD roam free...but nnoooooooo.
See this is the same crap that got Thomas Bryant mad because village idiot Ham after TB showed that he can start as Center and do good..he wanted to sit him right back on the bench in no mans land once AD came back. Even TB recognize Ham didnt know what he was doing. TB even decided to rot on Denver's bench and get a ring than fool with this village idiot.
As for what centers i would have liked to see ...I think i already answered those above...
Next you talk about HE cant tell LBJ to stop shooting 3s...Well what is his job then? I thought it was to Coach? Am i wrong? So you saying LBJ can just do what he wants to do? Annd thats why we lost Game 2 with Denver because of Le Curry James.
Talk about embarrassing? You going to song and dance again over all the things i showed that has happended...there is TAPE to back it up.....you not going to refute noooooone of it.
...because well... you cant..its on tape. |
We are talking to a bunch of people just as stubborn as Ham.
It should be clear as day that Ham is incompetent from Denver series.
The dude refuse to make obvious adjustment until game 4 and basically chose to get swept.
“But but he got us to the WCF, he must be good”
LOL.
Play in, we barely beat a short handed Wolves, and we came out unprepared and almost got blown out, it took the Wolves choking for a whole quarter for us to win by skin of our teeth.
Against shotted handed Grizzlies, we lost game 2 against Ja less team.
Got outcoached throughout the game, went back to Vando guarding centers just cuz Ja wasn’t in the game. He did this in regular season too, if it wasn’t Vando who asked Ham to guard Ja himself, Ham probably would still have him guard interior players.
The Golden States series was his wet dream come true, since finally his small ball lineup wasn’t like terrible.
But really we could have beaten GSW easier by just playing more with size.
And if you can read body language and just Ham demeanors, you can tell the dude is incompetent.
His aura is just not the same as a successful NBA coach.
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Polarbear
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| Nonamehero wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: |
Go back and read it again or don’t I’m not sure that anything I say is going to change your idiot mind |
Ohh ohh you have went to call people idiots..lol. I understand you dont like this coffee (logic). All i said was could you prove why what he said was wrong. Some instances..Not just "We went to the wcf"...can you give some actual reasons of something he idd that made the difference of us winning a game. Something you can point out and say ahhh haa by this he did we won? |
Please don’t call what you spewing here logic it’s insulting
You look at what he has done by looking at the results. If he was a truly awful coach, he would not of held this team together through the injuries, and found a way to get a group of players playing together with so little time before the playoffs and then coaching them through from the 13th seed through the playing through two matchups, including the reigning NBA champions to the Western Conference finals one game away from the finals. The results are my proof and you know why use the results because you have no (bleep) idea what he is saying in those i timeouts, you have no idea what coaching methods he is using you literally have no idea |
(Spades Metaphor)No brah.. you not skating that jack over the table..Naaaa. You saying generalizations but you giving no proof of what he did to get wins.
What offensive scheme he used? OR defensive schemes to win a game?
No instances of rotations to get the win?..nothing.
You know why you cant and not? Because what I got in my "Spades Hand"...ala Small Ball Lineup? Keeping AD at the Center Position....Not Telling LBJ to stop with those supid thress....These some of the cards I can put on the table ...by the way those arent all the cards in my hand.
See?.I give instances and examples of why many call him a idiot..i dont give "genralizations"..And the previous poster gave the same instances..and you seem unable to refute them as this has happened all year.
Also you said i dont (bleep) know what he says in those huddles and timeouts...Well i sure know if its anyhing like his half time talks its bad as EVERY 3rd Qtr the team comes out looking like unmotivated slow hot trash
Wwwwait a minute? What timeouts?..Is that when we 20pts down or when a team has walk our huge leads down and now we down 10pts?
I actually have fun debating with you. |
You’re exhausting
You’re complaining about small ball lineups we made it to the Western Conference finals with small ball lineups
You’re going to tell LeBron James not to shoot threes first of all you don’t tell LeBron James anything as a coach no coach would and you do realize he was injured. Much easier to sit out there on the perimeter and Chuck threes whenever you’re hurt.
You have absolutely no idea what offenses or defensive schemes you he used unless you were in the huddle and then practice you don’t know (bleep)
Ham is slow on his line of rotations. I think that’s part of being a rookie head coach, but he did adapt to them in the sun series to get us pass that into the Nuggets nobody was beating the Nuggets this year.
Keeping Anthony Davis at the center position what lineup would you rather have seen mamba was injured. The other center was a straight free agent who was good in spurts and they didn’t always play Anthony Davis at the center position. Sometimes they moved him to the Rover on the Defense and Played, either Hachimura or LeBron James at center you didn’t notice that right?
Your points have no points you’re actually embarrassing yourself |
Was that small ball lineup a contriubutoin to that? Noooooo. I have already told you this team wins in spite of him putting most times behind the 8 ball.
Once again sir..tell me what he has done that contibuted to them going to the WCF?
Also you want to talk about the Nuggets..brah..how many lousy defensive rotations stategies he had...lets count the ways..Doubling Jokic so everybody else can go off? playing small ball again..which lead to another blowout in the 3rd.
and here is another one of your Gems:
"Sometimes they moved him(AD) to the Rover on the Defense and Played, either Hachimura or LeBron James at center you didn’t notice that right?" Yeah i saw it..question..why didnt he continue doing it? Ill tell you because he stupid.
Need Instances? Need Proof of this?
How about putting in TT inearlier than the last game? That actually bothered Jokic..However Dollar Late.Dollar Short. How about not leaving Rui on Jokic while AD Roams or even using TT for that until Denver thiger it out as thats when we actually started taking over or getting back into the game. What does ham do to Rui..Bench him nad leaves from doing it again...right or wrong?
You cant use rookie coach mistake..thats basic coaching.... He just horrible at recogizing what works and what doesnt until its too late. Im not even going to talk about leaving DLO in when even the Denver Coach IS TELLING YOU WHAT HE GOING TO DO EVERY GAME...soooo im not even going there.
Ham is slow on the uptake on the rotations? For reallll? Like leaving beasely in for the rest of the reg season and seeing it fail every game? Which is another instance of him 8 balling the team. Everybody see its not working..but he leaves him in trying to be a 3 & D guy and its not working..he rather let LW4 rot on the bench all that time till Bease lost confidence and started getting death threats,,,,and now that instance would also hunt DLO as he did the same stupid crap to him.
The Suns Series? We play the suns....we played GSW..and you can thank Poole and Klay for stinking it up...without them stinking it up..it might have been a different matter. Before you say see? See he did that...he could have ended the series even quicker if the iidiot would have gave LW4 more time also played TT to guard draymond and let AD roam free...but nnoooooooo.
See this is the same crap that got Thomas Bryant mad because village idiot Ham after TB showed that he can start as Center and do good..he wanted to sit him right back on the bench in no mans land once AD came back. Even TB recognize Ham didnt know what he was doing. TB even decided to rot on Denver's bench and get a ring than fool with this village idiot.
As for what centers i would have liked to see ...I think i already answered those above...
Next you talk about HE cant tell LBJ to stop shooting 3s...Well what is his job then? I thought it was to Coach? Am i wrong? So you saying LBJ can just do what he wants to do? Annd thats why we lost Game 2 with Denver because of Le Curry James.
Talk about embarrassing? You going to song and dance again over all the things i showed that has happended...there is TAPE to back it up.....you not going to refute noooooone of it.
...because well... you cant..its on tape. |
We are talking to a bunch of people just as stubborn as Ham.
It should be clear as day that Ham is incompetent from Denver series.
The dude refuse to make obvious adjustment until game 4 and basically chose to get swept.
“But but he got us to the WCF, he must be good”
LOL.
Play in, we barely beat a short handed Wolves, and we came out unprepared and almost got blown out, it took the Wolves choking for a whole quarter for us to win by skin of our teeth.
Against shotted handed Grizzlies, we lost game 2 against Ja less team.
Got outcoached throughout the game, went back to Vando guarding centers just cuz Ja wasn’t in the game. He did this in regular season too, if it wasn’t Vando who asked Ham to guard Ja himself, Ham probably would still have him guard interior players.
The Golden States series was his wet dream come true, since finally his small ball lineup wasn’t like terrible.
But really we could have beaten GSW easier by just playing more with size.
And if you can read body language and just Ham demeanors, you can tell the dude is incompetent.
His aura is just not the same as a successful NBA coach.
Those things are not something you can measure |
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JustaObserver
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“But but he got us to the WCF, he must be good”
LOL.
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A few people are going to be very disappointed when Ham coaches all of next season. Don't feel sorry for these people  |
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| drae wrote: | | A few people are going to be very disappointed when Ham coaches all of next season. Don't feel sorry for these people |
No, the sad thing is at least I know what to expect.
The delusional out there think Ham can be a bright future will be disappointed as hell.
LOL
Just like those idiots who thought Westbrick could work |
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| Quote: | .@naveenganglani asked if Handy is considering joining Frank Vogel’s staff in Phoenix.
Handy: “Don’t believe everything you read. I’m under contract with the Lakers for the next two seasons. When Darvin came on, I signed a three-year extension. So I’m in Laker land baby.” |
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| Megaton wrote: | | Would definitely be better than whatever drinking buddy Ham ends up hiring instead. |
Drinking buddy? Some of the takes in this thread are remarkable.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Would definitely be better than whatever drinking buddy Ham ends up hiring instead. |
Drinking buddy? Some of the takes in this thread are remarkable. |
Wouldn’t Bud be considered a drinking buddy?
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Would definitely be better than whatever drinking buddy Ham ends up hiring instead. |
Drinking buddy? Some of the takes in this thread are remarkable. |
Wouldn’t Bud be considered a drinking buddy? |
Touche.
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| Megaton wrote: | Mike Bud would be a great get as an assistant, but I think he just takes the year off coaching.
Would definitely be better than whatever drinking buddy Ham ends up hiring instead. |
BUD would be one of the worst choice possible.
As a lot of Ham issues come from Bud.
Ham is basically an inexperienced version of Bud
Both suck |
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| Quote: | | The Lakers are hiring DeMarre Carroll as an asst coach on Darvin Ham's staff, sources told ESPN. Carroll worked for Mike Budenholzer in MIL last season. Ham, Carroll and Bud were all in Atlanta together when ATL went 60-22 w/ Carroll as the starting SF and was No. 1 in the East |
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| ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | The Lakers are hiring DeMarre Carroll as an asst coach on Darvin Ham's staff, sources told ESPN. Carroll worked for Mike Budenholzer in MIL last season. Ham, Carroll and Bud were all in Atlanta together when ATL went 60-22 w/ Carroll as the starting SF and was No. 1 in the East |
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| Quote: | | I can confirm this - Ham loves when his assistant coaches can get on the court and work with players |
https://twitter.com/DanWoikeSports/status/1675979198295592960?t=rycTdy9zorejhi9SzWdqOA&s=19
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| ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | The Lakers are hiring DeMarre Carroll as an asst coach on Darvin Ham's staff, sources told ESPN. Carroll worked for Mike Budenholzer in MIL last season. Ham, Carroll and Bud were all in Atlanta together when ATL went 60-22 w/ Carroll as the starting SF and was No. 1 in the East |
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I remember we all wanted him on LG a long time ago. We got Cam and Carrol now. Lol. Reminds me of Prince
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| ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | The Lakers are hiring DeMarre Carroll as an asst coach on Darvin Ham's staff, sources told ESPN. Carroll worked for Mike Budenholzer in MIL last season. Ham, Carroll and Bud were all in Atlanta together when ATL went 60-22 w/ Carroll as the starting SF and was No. 1 in the East |
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Cool. We need wings.
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Besides Handy, all of Ham's assistants are not good.
Ham doesn't have a good eye for talented assistants.
Right now, he's not a good coach his self.
He needs to have a head coach on the bench with him.
Lakers need to choose his assistants. |
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| LBJ23 wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | The Lakers are hiring DeMarre Carroll as an asst coach on Darvin Ham's staff, sources told ESPN. Carroll worked for Mike Budenholzer in MIL last season. Ham, Carroll and Bud were all in Atlanta together when ATL went 60-22 w/ Carroll as the starting SF and was No. 1 in the East |
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I remember we all wanted him on LG a long time ago. We got Cam and Carrol now. Lol. Reminds me of Prince |
I remember some were clamoring for T Prince too, when he was on the Pistons.
Oops Tayshaun that is |
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Same people shiiiting on Ham shat on Rob and look at what he's gotten done this off-season (just think what we'd be looking at if we'd have made the Indi trade at the beginning of the year?!).
Sometimes I think all the stuff the haters say about us Lakers fans is kind of justified - lol. Getting to the WCF in his rookie season, given the situation - don't you think Ham deserves credit? -- He does in my book.
All of you back seat drivers know way less than you think. You're like the civilians clamoring for war telling the generals their battle plans suck. Me think it's harder than it looks.
I really think LG has not liked a coach since Pat Riley - lol!!! |
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| I still associate Ham with Westbrook and Midgets.. felt there were many times we had to win games in spite of the Head Coaches decisions. |
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