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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:18 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:16 am    Post subject:

I thought this was an interesting quote from JJ:

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The other thing is, we talked about him developing as an initiator for the offense because we’re down a ball handler right now. We probably had 10 to 12 possessions where he had to bring it up, including some possessions late game. There were two close calls, but he didn’t have any turnovers on those plays. I thought that was big again for him and his development, just getting him into these situations, I think is huge.”


It’s was painful to watch but I love that JJ understands that Max needs reps in uncomfortable situations in order to ultimately reach his potential.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:34 am    Post subject:

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it's funny how adamant that guy was and almost seems mad that Christie is actually good
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When called out on it Mr Wilkes said it was based on eye test and Max’s rookie year g league stats lol
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:39 am    Post subject:

I think we've only lost to the Cavs ever since he was inserted into the starting lineup, right?

KCP replacement!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:02 am    Post subject:

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I think we've only lost to the Cavs ever since he was inserted into the starting lineup, right?

KCP replacement!!


I actually think Max's potential upside is even higher than KCP's as he has better scoring instincts/versatility than KCP who literally could only shoot threes and utilize straight line drives to the basket. That said, KCP does have more quick twitch to his game which is ideal for the type of defense that both these guys excel at. I do see Max Christie's upside as Eddie Jones. I can really see it although he still has work to get there. Eddie was ready almost from the jump.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:14 am    Post subject:

LakersMD wrote:
I thought this was an interesting quote from JJ:

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The other thing is, we talked about him developing as an initiator for the offense because we’re down a ball handler right now. We probably had 10 to 12 possessions where he had to bring it up, including some possessions late game. There were two close calls, but he didn’t have any turnovers on those plays. I thought that was big again for him and his development, just getting him into these situations, I think is huge.”


It’s was painful to watch but I love that JJ understands that Max needs reps in uncomfortable situations in order to ultimately reach his potential.


My hope for him was to have these types of possessions in preseason to help his development because I think that is next level for him. I think he did well yesterday and hope he gets to do more of that going forward
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:42 am    Post subject:

That assist to LeBron in traffic was dicey and in general I have zero faith in Christie bringing the ball up, but as teams hide their worst defenders on him, he's going to have to start getting comfortable. I imagine at some point teams are going to blitz him when he takes the ball up court and he'll have some ugly turnovers. Patience LG, when that happens lol
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:44 am    Post subject:

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That assist to LeBron in traffic was dicey and in general I have zero faith in Christie bringing the ball up, but as teams hide their worst defenders on him, he's going to have to start getting comfortable. I imagine at some point teams are going to blitz him when he takes the ball up court and he'll have some ugly turnovers. Patience LG, when that happens lol


Gonna need more reps in that situation. LeBron seemed to give him a chance to work on it last night
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:53 am    Post subject:

I do wish that Max had KCPs explosiveness when it comes to his dunks. But he's still growing and hasn't gotten his man strength yet in the slightest. But becoming stronger is going to become a consistent next step for Christie.

Maybe he should reach out to Tim Grover, as many professional basketball players should.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:06 pm    Post subject:

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LakersMD wrote:
I thought this was an interesting quote from JJ:

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The other thing is, we talked about him developing as an initiator for the offense because we’re down a ball handler right now. We probably had 10 to 12 possessions where he had to bring it up, including some possessions late game. There were two close calls, but he didn’t have any turnovers on those plays. I thought that was big again for him and his development, just getting him into these situations, I think is huge.”


It’s was painful to watch but I love that JJ understands that Max needs reps in uncomfortable situations in order to ultimately reach his potential.


My hope for him was to have these types of possessions in preseason to help his development because I think that is next level for him. I think he did well yesterday and hope he gets to do more of that going forward


Yeah I’m guessing this will be the focus of his offseason work.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 1:33 pm    Post subject:

I think Max can be a much more balanced offensive player than KCP. Again I really love Derrick White as a ceiling for Max. I don't think he ever gets there, but even 85% of Derrick White is a super valuable player
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:46 am    Post subject:

So many of us were on the Max train early. Boggles my mind that Ham didn’t see it. We should hire and fire him all over again just to make the point
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:51 am    Post subject:

Are we Christieans now?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:15 pm    Post subject:

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Are we Christieans now?


Hell yeah! Born again!

Really like how far he has come, and how our staff has helped him. Really like how JJ has seen his potential and has been trying to incorporate him more, and grow his game. He started out slowly and he did not give up on him, and more importantly cormaxwell didn't give up on himself.

You can tell he is made of different stuff when he is nailing free throws down the stretch. He is still only 21 years old. 21 years old and he is covering every position, and making seamless switches. Making the right cuts off of the ball, and making plays on the ball.

Just really nice what our son has grown into. Really thankful that so many here stayed with him. Pat yourselves on the back everybody.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 6:42 pm    Post subject:

21 years old.. he obviously really gives a fu*k... and is a team player who gives it all on D.

Just really enjoying watching this version of him blossom.

I assume he'll continue to add to his game as he grows.. but he's already very useful.

I don't know about the KCP comps.. but if he can get close to peak KCP.. they've got a heck of a player.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:11 pm    Post subject:

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21 years old.. he obviously really gives a fu*k... and is a team player who gives it all on D.

Just really enjoying watching this version of him blossom.

I assume he'll continue to add to his game as he grows.. but he's already very useful.

I don't know about the KCP comps.. but if he can get close to peak KCP.. they've got a heck of a player.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:09 pm    Post subject:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:39 am    Post subject:

His game will go up and down but this stretch shows what he's capable of. Just a couple of weeks back there was a discussion here of whether he's an NBA player - ridiculous, he definitely belongs in the NBA, it's just that it remains to be proven whether he's a starter or a role player, that's all.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:45 am    Post subject:

If Knecht had flopped his first few weeks, his career might have gone the route of Svi's. Great shooter who isn't NBA material.

(I exaggerate because Knecht has more physical tools, but it could have gone badly for him)

Instead we had Knechtsanity for two weeks so people will be patient and see what he brings.

I didn't give up on Max, but he was bad the first two weeks.

What was good about JJ, is that he quickly benched him, but then eased him back in slowly.

So I don't blame some for overreacting because he really sh*t the bed given his first big opportunity.

And similarly when he scored his career high, people started to think like they did about Knecht at the beginning.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:56 am    Post subject:

He can be our prime Doug Christie. All nba defender with ability to hit shots
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:39 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
tox wrote:
it's funny how adamant that guy was and almost seems mad that Christie is actually good
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When called out on it Mr Wilkes said it was based on eye test and Max’s rookie year g league stats lol


If you are referring to me, I do not think Max Christie is the player you do.

In three years, his career average is less than 5 points, less than 1 assist and 2 rebounds a game. That is hardly special in the NBA.

This year, in what you are apparently celebrating as his breakout season, he is only averaging 7 points, 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 22 minutes, while getting paid $8 million per year.

Nothing about that is remarkable and would be a total nothing burger if he played for another team. Freaking Scottie Pippen Jr. is averaging 10 points, 3 rebounds, and 5 assists in the same 22 minutes.

I understand why some Lakers fans might be overly exuberant for Max, Bronny, Shake Milton, etc. because these players are currently wearing the purple and gold, but in reality, their perceived value is seriously inflated because they play for the home team. Other teams are not sweating Max, (or Bronny, Milton, Jaxson Hayes, etc.).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:47 pm    Post subject:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:26 pm    Post subject:

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If you're laughing at the post above you consider me laughing right along with you.

Finally get some legitimate defensive potential happening again along our perimeter and fans complaining about the stats of a 21 y/o who is just barely getting his first chance at decent minutes and has gotten better by the Week. Nobody knows what he'll end up as but the potential and defensive energy he has shown thus far clearly deserves some love for the work he has put in and if it continues I see no reason to be excited about his future. It's been refreshing seeing the perimeter guys actually playing with an above average defensive iq.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:33 pm    Post subject:

Second time this season his end of game situational awareness has cost them. He’s got to get better there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:34 pm    Post subject:

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Lakesh0wtime wrote:
tox wrote:
it's funny how adamant that guy was and almost seems mad that Christie is actually good
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When called out on it Mr Wilkes said it was based on eye test and Max’s rookie year g league stats lol


If you are referring to me, I do not think Max Christie is the player you do.

In three years, his career average is less than 5 points, less than 1 assist and 2 rebounds a game. That is hardly special in the NBA.

This year, in what you are apparently celebrating as his breakout season, he is only averaging 7 points, 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 22 minutes, while getting paid $8 million per year.

Nothing about that is remarkable and would be a total nothing burger if he played for another team. Freaking Scottie Pippen Jr. is averaging 10 points, 3 rebounds, and 5 assists in the same 22 minutes.

I understand why some Lakers fans might be overly exuberant for Max, Bronny, Shake Milton, etc. because these players are currently wearing the purple and gold, but in reality, their perceived value is seriously inflated because they play for the home team. Other teams are not sweating Max, (or Bronny, Milton, Jaxson Hayes, etc.).


Is he a g league talent at best? As you said.
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