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zambia
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| svettarsalo wrote: | | TMG wrote: | | JJ is forcing him to do too much. It's like he's trying to speed run Christies development. You cant just give Max the ball and ask him to create thinking it'll help his development. It's not something he's used to. |
JJ and FO need to decide if he is a staring caliber player on a contending team in two weeks. Otherwise, a trade will be made to strengthen that position.
That's why JJ testing him I guess. But no need to test actually. He is obviously not that player yet. |
Max needs to work on his dribbling skills. |
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MJST
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| Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | Max is doing well filling that KCP role…
17 Starts:
11.2ppg
47% fg
39% 3fg
88% FT
It’s the other part of the game he needs to work on. But I don’t think he will be a good iso player in this league. He just lacks the ball handling skills. |
Keep in mind KCP didn't develop a consistent 3 point shot till he was 24-26
And when he was Max's age he put up 12 points and 3 rebounds a game but shot 40% from the field and 34% from three.
The first 6 years of KCPs career he averaged 12 points 3 rebounds 1.2 steals a game while shooting 41% from the field and 34% from three.
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LakerDYnasty72
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | Max is doing well filling that KCP role…
17 Starts:
11.2ppg
47% fg
39% 3fg
88% FT
It’s the other part of the game he needs to work on. But I don’t think he will be a good iso player in this league. He just lacks the ball handling skills. |
Keep in mind KCP didn't develop a consistent 3 point shot till he was 24-26
And when he was Max's age he put up 12 points and 3 rebounds a game but shot 40% from the field and 34% from three.
The first 6 years of KCPs career he averaged 12 points 3 rebounds 1.2 steals a game while shooting 41% from the field and 34% from three. |
Excellent points. Keep in mind, also, that KCP was the 8th pick in his draft so he was expected to significantly produce. Max, otoh, was a second round pick so the expectations are not as high.
His ballhandling does need work, but I love his potential. I see fine, workable clay in this young man. |
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buduan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Christie is garbage. No way he should be getting more minutes than Knecht. At any level. |
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mhan00
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| buduan wrote: | | Christie is garbage. No way he should be getting more minutes than Knecht. At any level. |
???
Max didn’t play well against the Clippers, but he’s been leagues better than Dalton who has been straight ass for nearly two months. |
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J.C. Smith
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| buduan wrote: | | Christie is garbage. No way he should be getting more minutes than Knecht. At any level. |
Not defensively he isn't. Max is a decent defender, defense is what keeps Dalton on the bench. That having been said, Max has also made some nice strides on offense since his rookie year. Dalton needs to make those strides on the other end. |
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Kblo247!
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| buduan wrote: | | Christie is garbage. No way he should be getting more minutes than Knecht. At any level. |
Dalton plays horrible defense. Throughout the month of December he’s also been absolutely horrible shooting the ball too. Dalton deserved multiple DNP |
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buduan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'd rather see Knecht get the burn and experience than watch Cbristie fumble around out there. How many years has he been on the roster now?
Time to cut bait and invest minutes in a real prospect. |
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mhan00
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| buduan wrote: | I'd rather see Knecht get the burn and experience than watch Cbristie fumble around out there. How many years has he been on the roster now?
Time to cut bait and invest minutes in a real prospect. |
This has to be a troll post. |
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TMG
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | buduan wrote: | I'd rather see Knecht get the burn and experience than watch Cbristie fumble around out there. How many years has he been on the roster now?
Time to cut bait and invest minutes in a real prospect. |
This has to be a troll post. |
It's because Christies game isn't aesthetically pleasing on offense but he's about 3x the player Dalton is right now. Christie in January has shot close to 40% from 3 and has been really good on defense.
Dalton is the much better offensive player but hasn't shown it and his defense is so bad he's unplayable.
JJ is forcing Max to do too much though. He is forcing him to handle the ball and create and he's just not there yet as a player.
21 years old though so im 100% convinced he'll be much better by next season now that he's gettng a full season of PT under his belt. |
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TMG
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| buduan wrote: | I'd rather see Knecht get the burn and experience than watch Cbristie fumble around out there. How many years has he been on the roster now?
Time to cut bait and invest minutes in a real prospect. |
This is the first season Max has gotten good minutes and so far he's delivered.
DK isn't the prospect you think he is. He's not on that level. |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| If Max wants to remain a starter he will really have to develop other parts of his game. Right now he can get away with the KCP/Danny Green role with Lebron on the team. |
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LakerDynasty6.0
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| Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| BILBJH wrote: | Some of you don't remember KCP's horrible attempts to run a fast break.
And that was when he was 25 to 27 years of age.
Max is 21
Let's see how he looks in four years before we call KCP his ceiling.
Max is already far more efficient than KCP was when he was 21
Max vs KCP |
Thank you.. this was quite enlightening.. Often we think of KCP circa 2020 rather than 2015, when comparing with Max Christie!!
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Theseus
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Really liked when he was switched onto KP and he made KP work for everything inside. Even Reggie Miller noticed how Max was challenging him for position and making him work.
I am really impressed by Max's motor. The guy works so hard defensively and then he is moving around all the time on offense too! I mean he is 21 and that is probably a large part of it, but he has to lowkey be one of the fittest guys on the team. |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerDynasty6.0 wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Some of you don't remember KCP's horrible attempts to run a fast break.
And that was when he was 25 to 27 years of age.
Max is 21
Let's see how he looks in four years before we call KCP his ceiling.
Max is already far more efficient than KCP was when he was 21
Max vs KCP |
Thank you.. this was quite enlightening.. Often we think of KCP circa 2020 rather than 2015, when comparing with Max Christie!! |
People have bad memories. KCP was (bleep) in 2021, kuz was bad in 2020-2021 playoffs. |
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alleyoop
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | LakerDynasty6.0 wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Some of you don't remember KCP's horrible attempts to run a fast break.
And that was when he was 25 to 27 years of age.
Max is 21
Let's see how he looks in four years before we call KCP his ceiling.
Max is already far more efficient than KCP was when he was 21
Max vs KCP |
Thank you.. this was quite enlightening.. Often we think of KCP circa 2020 rather than 2015, when comparing with Max Christie!! |
People have bad memories. KCP was (bleep) in 2021, kuz was bad in 2020-2021 playoffs. |
Didn’t KCP start that season (20-21) like a house on fire, then totally shat the bed as the season went on?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Max continues to look solid as hell. I still grit my teeth and pray whenever he has to make a decision with the ball, but his effort can never be questioned. Knocking down open threes and grabbing 8 big boards today, beautiful. |
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alleyoop
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | Max continues to look solid as hell. I still grit my teeth and pray whenever he has to make a decision with the ball, but his effort can never be questioned. Knocking down open threes and grabbing 8 big boards today, beautiful. |
As long as he plays within his limitations, he’s perfect for a team led by a ball-dominant type like Bron. Does so many vital skills well
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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He’s about to turn 22 in a couple of weeks. He’s got a long way to go until he’s done developing. Great pick.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Love how much this kid keeps growing.
Excellent, excellent effort and performance tonight. |
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LakersMD
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| Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Gonna be so good defensively as he naturally adds grown man strength. |
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lakersboy
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| Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | buduan wrote: | I'd rather see Knecht get the burn and experience than watch Cbristie fumble around out there. How many years has he been on the roster now?
Time to cut bait and invest minutes in a real prospect. |
This has to be a troll post. |
Anybody seen Buduan?
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| Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| The back-to-back corner three with his usual solid defense were a sight to see. Man, his play of late has been awesome. Keep it up, young fella! |
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