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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:48 pm    Post subject:

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I was having a normal conversation with a couple of posters on Jeanie and how she can start taking things more serious with this team and Organization and a poster (who literally hates my posts) decided to ruin the thread and conversation by calling me stupid


How about you stop making unnecessary sexist comments and just in general riling people up? You can criticize Jeanie without the demeaning misogyny.


What do you feel was sexist about his post, so others could stay clear of saying it?


Didn't seem sexist to me. Just really weird lol


I already told ChefLinda that my post towards Jeanie wasn’t about sexism


When I read your post, I thought you were making an automobile accident joke. Jeanie not being aware of her surroundings.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:55 pm    Post subject:

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Podz is the Warriors' Austin Reaves.


Remember when the Clippers refused to include Terence Mann in a trade for a superstar?


I do, just like I remember we didn't include Reaves to get Kyrie.

It was Reaves + Max + 2 FRP as far as I remember. That's way more than what the Clippers and Mavs ultimately offered. I don't blame Tsai for sticking it to Kyrie and not wanting to take on extra salary. He still made the wrong trade, but whatever.


It was WB/Reaves/Max/2FRP+ pick swaps.... In another word, Tsai had no intention on trading him to the Lakers.


That's what we offered, or that's what the Nets wanted?

Kyrie, LeBron, and AD probably would have won a ring last year.

You still get Rui for free. But the rest of the roster is basically vet mins?


We barely lost each one of those games to the Nuggets, with DLO averaging 6 ppg. With Kyrie instead, we would have won.


We lose close games, due to DLO’s inability to get to the free throw line.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:36 pm    Post subject:

zambia wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
tox wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
levon wrote:
MJST wrote:
Aphex Twin wrote:
MJST wrote:
Podz is the Warriors' Austin Reaves.


Remember when the Clippers refused to include Terence Mann in a trade for a superstar?


I do, just like I remember we didn't include Reaves to get Kyrie.

It was Reaves + Max + 2 FRP as far as I remember. That's way more than what the Clippers and Mavs ultimately offered. I don't blame Tsai for sticking it to Kyrie and not wanting to take on extra salary. He still made the wrong trade, but whatever.


It was WB/Reaves/Max/2FRP+ pick swaps.... In another word, Tsai had no intention on trading him to the Lakers.


That's what we offered, or that's what the Nets wanted?

Kyrie, LeBron, and AD probably would have won a ring last year.

You still get Rui for free. But the rest of the roster is basically vet mins?


We barely lost each one of those games to the Nuggets, with DLO averaging 6 ppg. With Kyrie instead, we would have won.


We lose close games, due to DLO’s inability to get to the free throw line.


And his inability to hit free throws. He shot 50% from the line vs Denver. In games that were decided by a shot
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:50 pm    Post subject:

Kblo247! wrote:
zambia wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
tox wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
levon wrote:
MJST wrote:
Aphex Twin wrote:
MJST wrote:
Podz is the Warriors' Austin Reaves.


Remember when the Clippers refused to include Terence Mann in a trade for a superstar?


I do, just like I remember we didn't include Reaves to get Kyrie.

It was Reaves + Max + 2 FRP as far as I remember. That's way more than what the Clippers and Mavs ultimately offered. I don't blame Tsai for sticking it to Kyrie and not wanting to take on extra salary. He still made the wrong trade, but whatever.


It was WB/Reaves/Max/2FRP+ pick swaps.... In another word, Tsai had no intention on trading him to the Lakers.


That's what we offered, or that's what the Nets wanted?

Kyrie, LeBron, and AD probably would have won a ring last year.

You still get Rui for free. But the rest of the roster is basically vet mins?


We barely lost each one of those games to the Nuggets, with DLO averaging 6 ppg. With Kyrie instead, we would have won.


We lose close games, due to DLO’s inability to get to the free throw line.


And his inability to hit free throws. He shot 50% from the line vs Denver. In games that were decided by a shot



Better players than Dlo have historically choked under pressure.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:53 pm    Post subject:

zambia wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
tox wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
levon wrote:
MJST wrote:
Aphex Twin wrote:
MJST wrote:
Podz is the Warriors' Austin Reaves.


Remember when the Clippers refused to include Terence Mann in a trade for a superstar?


I do, just like I remember we didn't include Reaves to get Kyrie.

It was Reaves + Max + 2 FRP as far as I remember. That's way more than what the Clippers and Mavs ultimately offered. I don't blame Tsai for sticking it to Kyrie and not wanting to take on extra salary. He still made the wrong trade, but whatever.


It was WB/Reaves/Max/2FRP+ pick swaps.... In another word, Tsai had no intention on trading him to the Lakers.


That's what we offered, or that's what the Nets wanted?

Kyrie, LeBron, and AD probably would have won a ring last year.

You still get Rui for free. But the rest of the roster is basically vet mins?


We barely lost each one of those games to the Nuggets, with DLO averaging 6 ppg. With Kyrie instead, we would have won.


We lose close games, due to DLO’s inability to get to the free throw line.


Or LeBron's inability to close.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:56 pm    Post subject:

Choke jobs….


https://clutchpoints.com/10-biggest-choke-jobs-in-nba-playoff-history
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:58 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
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Inspector Gadget wrote:
EZ-Ryder wrote:
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Inspector Gadget wrote:
I was having a normal conversation with a couple of posters on Jeanie and how she can start taking things more serious with this team and Organization and a poster (who literally hates my posts) decided to ruin the thread and conversation by calling me stupid


How about you stop making unnecessary sexist comments and just in general riling people up? You can criticize Jeanie without the demeaning misogyny.


What do you feel was sexist about his post, so others could stay clear of saying it?


Didn't seem sexist to me. Just really weird lol


I already told ChefLinda that my post towards Jeanie wasn’t about sexism


Surprised she didn’t ban you for that..


This is coming from a guy who names himself a Thugnomoe. Hey Buddy why don’t you mind your own business and stop trying to get on my nerves, I probably love Jeanie more then all of you guys on LG all I see from you guys is whine whine whine when it comes to Jeanie and her decision making


Not trying to get on your nerves.. I got banned by her before.. I relate..
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:11 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Aphex Twin wrote:
MJST wrote:
Podz is the Warriors' Austin Reaves.


Remember when the Clippers refused to include Terence Mann in a trade for a superstar?


I do, just like I remember we didn't include Reaves to get Kyrie.

The issue seemed to be that the Nets wanted 2 FRP (draft picks) from the Lakers, while they only got 1 from the Mavs. So they end up doing 1 FRPs, 2 SRPS. To make any deal work at the time, they needed to include Westbrook, who was seen as a toxic buy out player/contract. In contrast the Mavs had DFS and Dinwiddie who were not seen as toxic contracts/players.

They wanted both the 2027 and 2029 picks from LA. One pick to take on Westbrook, to buy him out/deal with him. The other pick was for Kyrie. The very framework of the deal is what kept Pelinka from making deals. Same thing happened with Indiana for Myles Turner/Buddy. They wanted 2 picks, and Pelinka was willing to include 1. Teams are well aware of the Lakers desperation to move WB and also having a win now mode around AD/Bron.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:36 am    Post subject:

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Choke jobs….


https://clutchpoints.com/10-biggest-choke-jobs-in-nba-playoff-history


#1 choke job is the 1984 NBA finals, game 2 (I was at the game). This is the game where Big game James threw the ball away while we were up by 2 and the shot clock off. I still can not believe we lost that game (OT) and series (DJ hitting a crazy shot). I really believe this was the best team we ever had. We should have swept the green turds that year.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:48 am    Post subject:

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Choke jobs….


https://clutchpoints.com/10-biggest-choke-jobs-in-nba-playoff-history


#1 choke job is the 1984 NBA finals, game 2 (I was at the game). This is the game where Big game James threw the ball away while we were up by 2 and the shot clock off. I still can not believe we lost that game (OT) and series (DJ hitting a crazy shot). I really believe this was the best team we ever had. We should have swept the green turds that year.



True! I was based abroad, but saw the game...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:09 am    Post subject:

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Utah Jazz All-Star forward Lauri Markkanen has signed a five-year, $238 million contract renegotiation and extension – including $220 million in new money, his agent Michael Lelchitski of @SIGSports tells ESPN.


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Markkanen, who had one year, $18M left on his contract, used the Jazz’s salary cap space to increase his 2024-2025 salary another $24 million and agreed on another four years and $196 million that include no options, Lelchitski tells ESPN.


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The extension precludes Markkanen from being traded for six months – which pushes him past February 6th trade deadline and means he isn’t eligible to be moved until next offseason.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:23 am    Post subject:

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Utah Jazz All-Star forward Lauri Markkanen has signed a five-year, $238 million contract renegotiation and extension – including $220 million in new money, his agent Michael Lelchitski of @SIGSports tells ESPN.


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Markkanen, who had one year, $18M left on his contract, used the Jazz’s salary cap space to increase his 2024-2025 salary another $24 million and agreed on another four years and $196 million that include no options, Lelchitski tells ESPN.


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The extension precludes Markkanen from being traded for six months – which pushes him past February 6th trade deadline and means he isn’t eligible to be moved until next offseason.


wow RIP Jazz
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:31 am    Post subject:

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Choke jobs….


https://clutchpoints.com/10-biggest-choke-jobs-in-nba-playoff-history


#1 choke job is the 1984 NBA finals, game 2 (I was at the game). This is the game where Big game James threw the ball away while we were up by 2 and the shot clock off. I still can not believe we lost that game (OT) and series (DJ hitting a crazy shot). I really believe this was the best team we ever had. We should have swept the green turds that year.



True! I was based abroad, but saw the game...


Thanks for your service!!!!!
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Choke jobs….


https://clutchpoints.com/10-biggest-choke-jobs-in-nba-playoff-history


#1 choke job is the 1984 NBA finals, game 2 (I was at the game). This is the game where Big game James threw the ball away while we were up by 2 and the shot clock off. I still can not believe we lost that game (OT) and series (DJ hitting a crazy shot). I really believe this was the best team we ever had. We should have swept the green turds that year.


It was obvious to the point even the Celtics players (see Danny Ainge) thought the Lakers were better this year. The two years the Celtics were better than the Lakers were 1981 and 1986. Other than this, the Lakers were better EVERY year that decade.

Len Bias is remembered as a big what if. There were concerns about Bias on defense and as a tweener when being a tweener was a big disadvantage. (See Ed O'Bannon although yes Bias was a better prospect than the Broken Knee O'Bannon) He could score but could he be a complete player???
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:41 am    Post subject:

So 49m a year for Markannen? Congrats on never being able to compete for a title in your prime, bud.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:50 am    Post subject:

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So 49m a year for Markannen? Congrats on never being able to compete for a title in your prime, bud.


Honestly, I can't blame anyone for taking the money and likely sacrificing their championship dreams. That some crazy money to turn down. Brunson did something very unique and if he wins, he make up the money he left on the table and more.

Markannen probably will never make up that kind of money if he left it on the table
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:51 am    Post subject:

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So 49m a year for Markannen? Congrats on never being able to compete for a title in your prime, bud.


Honestly, I can't blame anyone for taking the money and likely sacrificing their championship dreams. That some crazy money to turn down. Brunson did something very unique and if he wins, he make up the money he left on the table and more.

Markannen probably will never make up that kind of money if he left it on the table

I don't blame him for taking the money. It's just a choice you have to make in this CBA. You can't be paying your third guy on a title team 50m a year, and I don't think he's second guy material. But maybe he thinks he is and he eventually gets there.
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Choke jobs….


https://clutchpoints.com/10-biggest-choke-jobs-in-nba-playoff-history


#1 choke job is the 1984 NBA finals, game 2 (I was at the game). This is the game where Big game James threw the ball away while we were up by 2 and the shot clock off. I still can not believe we lost that game (OT) and series (DJ hitting a crazy shot). I really believe this was the best team we ever had. We should have swept the green turds that year.



True! I was based abroad, but saw the game...


Me, too. My shipmates called it The Tragic Johnson Series. Worthy's pass was just one of many blown opportunities in those Finals. Magic had several.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:40 am    Post subject:

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So 49m a year for Markannen? Congrats on never being able to compete for a title in your prime, bud.


You speak like he's already gotten a shoe deal so rich that he doesn't need money anymore. Not everyone is like KD. Money before championships for most players. Championships are secondary to money despite whatever they might say. Look at what they do. Don't listen to what they say.

Jeanie might say she's competitive and wants to win a championship more than anything but then she wouldn't hesitate to cut a player like Rondo to save a whole $2M.
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Choke jobs….


https://clutchpoints.com/10-biggest-choke-jobs-in-nba-playoff-history


#1 choke job is the 1984 NBA finals, game 2 (I was at the game). This is the game where Big game James threw the ball away while we were up by 2 and the shot clock off. I still can not believe we lost that game (OT) and series (DJ hitting a crazy shot). I really believe this was the best team we ever had. We should have swept the green turds that year.



True! I was based abroad, but saw the game...


Me, too. My shipmates called it The Tragic Johnson Series. Worthy's pass was just one of many blown opportunities in those Finals. Magic had several.


Thanks for your service as well. I will never call Magic such a horrible name. He did eat up the clock at the end of regulation in the above game and then followed it up by going 0 for 2 from the free throw line at the end of game 4 (which we ultimately lost) after having a commanding lead at the end of the game. We should have swept those douche bags.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:24 am    Post subject:

Lauri

Surprise Utah not going for the Flagg, 2 versatile stretch forwards next to rookie Salary Kessler would be aight

John Collins, JC, THT and picks for Trae and BI?

Or next summer they can get more assets/players/picks coming back for a Lauri trade
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So 49m a year for Markannen? Congrats on never being able to compete for a title in your prime, bud.

It's the kind of stupid deal that I thought teams were learning not to make a la Pels & Ingram

Maybe the hope is the cap rises so much that $49M is looking reasonable, but yikes
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Congrats to Lauri on his new deal.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:51 am    Post subject:

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Congrats to Lauri on his new deal.


Yep, he’s another Dirk clone then another Kevin Love, even if he doesn’t win a title he’s always gonna help the Jazz compete
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Utah Jazz All-Star forward Lauri Markkanen has signed a five-year, $238 million contract renegotiation and extension – including $220 million in new money, his agent Michael Lelchitski of @SIGSports tells ESPN.


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Markkanen, who had one year, $18M left on his contract, used the Jazz’s salary cap space to increase his 2024-2025 salary another $24 million and agreed on another four years and $196 million that include no options, Lelchitski tells ESPN.


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The extension precludes Markkanen from being traded for six months – which pushes him past February 6th trade deadline and means he isn’t eligible to be moved until next offseason.


wow RIP Jazz



This is the problem with the Max Salary and hard floor cap system. It means the best players on the worst teams get way overpaid because those teams have to spend their money on someone (see the Blazers paying Jerami Grant), and it leads to the best players on the best teams actually being underpaid relative to their market value.

There’s no way the same “Max Salary” should be given to Bradley Beal and Anthony Davis alike…
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