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| deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending.
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zambia
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| Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending. |
The Lakers will not make the playoffs with DLO as their starting PG. I was hoping CAA could help Rob, and find DLO a new home. |
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| Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending. |
I think you mis-read. He helped take us to the off season, then could not perform in the play-off. But, you do need to get there and he does help take you there. He averaged 18 points a game on 41.5% three point shooting. And unless some else is going to fill that void, we'd be foolish to just ship him off without a solution.
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Kblo247!
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| zambia wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending. |
The Lakers will not make the playoffs with DLO as their starting PG. I was hoping CAA could help Rob, and find DLO a new home. |
Except the year both Bron and AD missed most a season, the Lakers have always been a playoff team. People like to say they were in the play in but the lakers regular season record has never been outside the traditional playoff spot. In fact they are screwed by said play in after they have to defend a traditional playoff spot they earned |
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| zambia wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending. |
The Lakers will not make the playoffs with DLO as their starting PG. I was hoping CAA could help Rob, and find DLO a new home. |
Only way they miss the playoffs is if Lebron or Davis get hurt for an extended period of time. Dlo won't matter much. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| deal wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending. |
I think you mis-read. He helped take us to the off season, then could not perform in the play-off. But, you do need to get there and he does help take you there. He averaged 18 points a game on 41.5% three point shooting. And unless some else is going to fill that void, we'd be foolish to just ship him off without a solution. |
depends how you define big dance. We have been a playin team, and last year our 2 50 m per year guys were perfectly healthy…and still playin, first round fodder. I don’t care about his numbers.
On paper he should be coveted. No one wants him. Much better NBA minds don’t want him.
If someone put dlows stats without his name attached 90% of the teams would be chomping at the bit to get him.
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Kblo247!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending. |
I think you mis-read. He helped take us to the off season, then could not perform in the play-off. But, you do need to get there and he does help take you there. He averaged 18 points a game on 41.5% three point shooting. And unless some else is going to fill that void, we'd be foolish to just ship him off without a solution. |
depends how you define big dance. We have been a playin team, and last year our 2 50 m per year guys were perfectly healthy…and still playin, first round fodder. I don’t care about his numbers.
On paper he should be coveted. No one wants him. Much better NBA minds don’t want him.
If someone put dlows stats without his name attached 90% of the teams would be chomping at the bit to get him. |
The thing is when you say a play in team it ignores the play in has hurt Bron and AD. They have always finished in a traditional top 8 spot before the season ends and then made to play said play in game. They’ve never been 9 or 10 or had a terrible record except Russ year they were hurt. So when you say play in team it ignores Bron and AD have been a traditional playoff team by record. Now if they were 9 and 10 and got to play for 8 that’s one thing but it’s never happened. |
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| So just read that Warriors might make a run at Butler, Butler has already said he likes Brooklyn as a potential destination if he moves on from Miami, if he ends up requesting a trade ( extension talks currently aren’t going well ). What are you willing to give up for Butler? |
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Halflife
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending. |
I think you mis-read. He helped take us to the off season, then could not perform in the play-off. But, you do need to get there and he does help take you there. He averaged 18 points a game on 41.5% three point shooting. And unless some else is going to fill that void, we'd be foolish to just ship him off without a solution. |
depends how you define big dance. We have been a playin team, and last year our 2 50 m per year guys were perfectly healthy…and still playin, first round fodder. I don’t care about his numbers.
On paper he should be coveted. No one wants him. Much better NBA minds don’t want him.
If someone put dlows stats without his name attached 90% of the teams would be chomping at the bit to get him. |
The thing is when you say a play in team it ignores the play in has hurt Bron and AD. They have always finished in a traditional top 8 spot before the season ends and then made to play said play in game. They’ve never been 9 or 10 or had a terrible record except Russ year they were hurt. So when you say play in team it ignores Bron and AD have been a traditional playoff team by record. Now if they were 9 and 10 and got to play for 8 that’s one thing but it’s never happened. |
I get the injury but no one takes into account Jamaal murry being dinged last year, Ja being hurt, worthy being injured for Mikes 1st etc etc. Facts are outside of the bubble title we are 2 lotteries, 2 1st round exits, 1 WCF sweep. We have been bad more than we have been good. Injuries are part of a players make-up.
Bron & AD being pristinely healthy last year didnt amount to much. Only 1 win in the first round. I get our fate being in the balance with them being available but most cried that we didnt have vandy. How about 2 guys regarded as high as they are take us home? If anyone thinks Dlo is a solve thats nuts. But even as lame as he is. two 50m per year guys should do better than what we do.
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| Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending. |
Getting swept wasn’t on DLO, it was a team accomplishment.
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| Quote: | | 7-footer Christian Koloko is finalizing a return to the NBA and the Los Angeles Lakers are frontrunners to sign him among Raptors, Clippers and Spurs, sources tell @TheAthletic. Koloko is awaiting clearance to play from NBA’s fitness panel; however, he is eligible to sign now. |
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Omg we did something
Is Koloko better than Hayes?
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Koloko was waived to complete the Siakam trade. He had blood clot issues that threatened his career but he appears to be cleared to return. He’s repped by Klutch.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | deal wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | deCember?
| Quote: | One thing Davis has made clear to the Lakers, sources told ESPN, is his preference to play alongside another big more often. The Lakers are thin in the middle going into the season with Christian Wood expected to be out for at least eight weeks following left knee surgery, leaving Jaxson Hayes and two-way player Colin Castleton as the only other healthy centers on the roster.
The Lakers were quiet at the 2024 trade deadline and quieter still in the offseason when it came to finding upgrades. But don't expect the team, which maintained some roster flexibility by remaining under the restrictive second apron, to look the same in the postseason as it does on opening night.
L.A. has several assets in its coffers that it can aggregate in a potential trade for a star: its 2029 and 2031 first-round picks; young talent on affordable contracts, such as Knecht, Hood-Schifino and Max Christie; and players on midrange contracts, such as D'Angelo Russell (an expiring $18.6 million deal), Rui Hachimura ($17 million), Vincent ($11 million) and Vanderbilt ($10.7 million).
One name to watch: Jonas Valanciunas of the Washington Wizards. James offered to take a pay cut to open up the full midlevel exception to sign the free agent big man, but he opted for more guaranteed money from a three-year, $30 million deal in Washington.
Still, the Lakers need a center, the Wizards don't figure to be contenders this season, and Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka has a proven record of getting deals done with Washington's organization.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41194402/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-bronny-anthony-davis-trades
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I wonder just how much guaranteed money we offered over the course of our contract proposal to JVal. One thing is for certain tho, a player option had to be included…right?
FYI: JVal’s 9.9m cap hit this year, won’t need a 2nd Apron hardcap triggering aggregation trade since only sending out just Gabe’s, Vando’s or even Reaves’ contracts alone can get a deal done in terms of salary matching. The only other way of getting hardcapped outside of trade aggregation is if they involve cash and/or that 2031 FRP in any trade this year. |
The Lakers don't sign him to the contract but decides to later trade for his contract which would likely include some type of asset beyond Gabe or Vando? Sounds about how the Lakers does business. Chasing their tail as I call it. |
Trading away depth or a young talent like Knecht is not something I would favor. And for all that don't like DLO, he helps get us to the big dance even
if he later can't handle the pressure. My O, anyway. |
he got us swept in the WCF- and the only reason we got there was due to other teams having issues.
He got us 1 game and out in the first round the following year. a series in which he had a game where he didnt score. If dlo is our starting PG we are not serious about contending. |
Getting swept wasn’t on DLO, it was a team accomplishment. |
of course but when you have scrubs like brown coming out and saying they were hunting him is a problem.
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Is Koloko better than Hayes? |
No not even close. In fact Moses Brown is just as good or better. |
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Is Koloko better than Hayes? |
No not even close. In fact Moses Brown is just as good or better. |
He's basically another Wenyen Gabriel on the team, probably won't play much like him. |
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| alleyoop wrote: | Omg we did something
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Haven’t done anything yet. If he’s an E10 he’s just camp fodder. Need to move a player to create a roster spot. And frankly, if the Lakers spent all summer with a full roster only to create a spot in September to sign Christian Koloko we should storm the gates.
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Is Koloko better than Hayes? |
No not even close. In fact Moses Brown is just as good or better. |
we should be grateful he picked us.
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| ocho wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Omg we did something
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Haven’t done anything yet. If he’s an E10 he’s just camp fodder. Need to move a player to create a roster spot. And frankly, if the Lakers spent all summer with a full roster only to create a spot in September to sign Christian Koloko we should storm the gates. |
That's about as accurate as it can be. |
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| why not just get Biyombo instead of Koloko? |
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| leking006 wrote: | | why not just get Biyombo instead of Koloko? |
The argument would be that Biyombo is 32yo, 6’8, and hasn’t been able to stick anywhere. Koloko is 24, 7’0, and a good athlete with upside. Koloko wouldn’t be a bad project to sign. The issue is our circumstances. There were a slew of significantly more impactful players to be had at the minimum this summer and Rob did nothing. Creating a roster spot after all these months to sign a project would be yet another fireable offense from a GM that mostly has a resume of fireable offenses.
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| Lakersfan1211 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Omg we did something
Is Koloko better than Hayes? |
No not even close. In fact Moses Brown is just as good or better. |
He's basically another Wenyen Gabriel on the team, probably won't play much like him. |
If he has Gabriel's motor/effort in a 7' body, sign me up. |
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| Who are we gonna waive to make room for Koloko? We currently have 15 players on the roster |
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