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| anth2000 wrote: | Again, no one in their right mind wants LaVine. Not sure why he keeps coming up. He is still owed 43, 45 and 48 million dollars per season.
He is always injured. He doesn't help the team. |
You only want him if you can get 2 first round picks with him.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Again, no one in their right mind wants LaVine. Not sure why he keeps coming up. He is still owed 43, 45 and 48 million dollars per season.
He is always injured. He doesn't help the team. |
You only want him if you can get 2 first round picks with him. |
Because it would mean you're tanking.
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| MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Again, no one in their right mind wants LaVine. Not sure why he keeps coming up. He is still owed 43, 45 and 48 million dollars per season.
He is always injured. He doesn't help the team. |
You only want him if you can get 2 first round picks with him. |
Because it would mean you're tanking. |
This team isn’t winning with or without him, you might as well look to the future. Though I really don’t trust this FO.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Again, no one in their right mind wants LaVine. Not sure why he keeps coming up. He is still owed 43, 45 and 48 million dollars per season.
He is always injured. He doesn't help the team. |
You only want him if you can get 2 first round picks with him. |
Because it would mean you're tanking. |
This team isn’t winning with or without him, you might as well look to the future. Though I really don’t trust this FO. |
Team is definitely winning without him. Also AD and LBJs seasons aren't going to be spent tanking. Gotta look at things actually realistically.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Again, no one in their right mind wants LaVine. Not sure why he keeps coming up. He is still owed 43, 45 and 48 million dollars per season.
He is always injured. He doesn't help the team. |
You only want him if you can get 2 first round picks with him. |
Because it would mean you're tanking. |
This team isn’t winning with or without him, you might as well look to the future. Though I really don’t trust this FO. |
Team is definitely winning without him. Also AD and LBJs seasons aren't going to be spent tanking. Gotta look at things actually realistically. |
its a soft tank -
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| So weird looking at Lillard’s level of play this season, he spoke about how motivated he was coming off of the Bucks playoff exit and now he’s literally tanking his own value, no way with his talent level that he should be scoring 14 pts on 4-15 shooting and 1-8 from 3, if his trade value is low I would hurry up and trade DLO and Vando to the Bucks and see if playing with LeBron can lit a fire under his ass |
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| Halflife wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Again, no one in their right mind wants LaVine. Not sure why he keeps coming up. He is still owed 43, 45 and 48 million dollars per season.
He is always injured. He doesn't help the team. |
You only want him if you can get 2 first round picks with him. |
Because it would mean you're tanking. |
This team isn’t winning with or without him, you might as well look to the future. Though I really don’t trust this FO. |
Team is definitely winning without him. Also AD and LBJs seasons aren't going to be spent tanking. Gotta look at things actually realistically. |
its a soft tank - |
We have no first round pick, so tanking only gives New Orleans a higher pick.
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| MJST wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Again, no one in their right mind wants LaVine. Not sure why he keeps coming up. He is still owed 43, 45 and 48 million dollars per season.
He is always injured. He doesn't help the team. |
You only want him if you can get 2 first round picks with him. |
Because it would mean you're tanking. |
This team isn’t winning with or without him, you might as well look to the future. Though I really don’t trust this FO. |
Team is definitely winning without him. Also AD and LBJs seasons aren't going to be spent tanking. Gotta look at things actually realistically. |
its a soft tank - |
We have no first round pick, so tanking only gives New Orleans a higher pick. |
That’s why you trade for first round picks. They can be turned into players or currency. HL is kind of correct, I don’t think that the intention is to lose but they haven’t done anything to win.
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| MJST wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Again, no one in their right mind wants LaVine. Not sure why he keeps coming up. He is still owed 43, 45 and 48 million dollars per season.
He is always injured. He doesn't help the team. |
You only want him if you can get 2 first round picks with him. |
Because it would mean you're tanking. |
This team isn’t winning with or without him, you might as well look to the future. Though I really don’t trust this FO. |
Team is definitely winning without him. Also AD and LBJs seasons aren't going to be spent tanking. Gotta look at things actually realistically. |
its a soft tank - |
We have no first round pick, so tanking only gives New Orleans a higher pick. |
we're not 1st pick in the draft tanking- we are playin, lose in the first round tanking- that way excuses are easily made- vs real tanking and trying to get picks
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| MJST wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Again, no one in their right mind wants LaVine. Not sure why he keeps coming up. He is still owed 43, 45 and 48 million dollars per season.
He is always injured. He doesn't help the team. |
You only want him if you can get 2 first round picks with him. |
Because it would mean you're tanking. |
This team isn’t winning with or without him, you might as well look to the future. Though I really don’t trust this FO. |
Team is definitely winning without him. Also AD and LBJs seasons aren't going to be spent tanking. Gotta look at things actually realistically. |
its a soft tank - |
We have no first round pick, so tanking only gives New Orleans a higher pick. |
Atlanta has the pick now. NO traded it for Dejounte.
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Imagine if we had Kyle Kuzma on this team instead of Rui “blackhole” Hachimura, let’s send Rui back to the Wizards  |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| yea imagine if we had 43.2% TS% kuzma on our team |
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| If I can get Lavine with two first round picks attached in exchange for some combo of Dlo, Rui, Gabe, JHS I.e. guys I don’t intend to keep long term, then I’m making that trade all day. But if Chicago views Lavine as a positive asset then forget it. |
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| panamaniac wrote: | | If I can get Lavine with two first round picks attached in exchange for some combo of Dlo, Rui, Gabe, JHS I.e. guys I don’t intend to keep long term, then I’m making that trade all day. But if Chicago views Lavine as a positive asset then forget it. |
Why would Chicago attach two firsts to take back our garbage when they actually need picks to rebuild? Any trade involving LaVine would involve zero picks. |
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A trade that works:
Vincent/Vando/Russell/JHS
JHS is useless, Vando cannot stay healthy. You're trading Vincent + Russell for LaVine. LaVine is an upgrade on Russell. Vincent can easily be replaced by Christie as your "plays defense and does nothing of note on offense."
The Bulls do it because they ditch LaVine's awful contract without attaching picks. They do have to take back Vando (long term salary) and Vincent (expires in 2026).
The Lakers upgrade without spending a first round pick. They're still not contenders, but you still have Rui, Christie, VM, picks to try to trade for someone up to ~$28M in salary |
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| levon wrote: | | panamaniac wrote: | | If I can get Lavine with two first round picks attached in exchange for some combo of Dlo, Rui, Gabe, JHS I.e. guys I don’t intend to keep long term, then I’m making that trade all day. But if Chicago views Lavine as a positive asset then forget it. |
Why would Chicago attach two firsts to take back our garbage when they actually need picks to rebuild? Any trade involving LaVine would involve zero picks. |
Yea I think the Lavine+1st package during the offseason have long gone sailed… Specially the more he plays and as the season goes on. You might even have some borderline time eventually trade for him by the deadline. |
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Jazz benched Walker Kessler, Pelinka should make a move for fvcks sake.
DLo is an expiring contract, I dont get it why its hard for Pelinka to trade him. Rebuilding teams want players with expiring contract. |
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| tox wrote: | A trade that works:
Vincent/Vando/Russell/JHS
JHS is useless, Vando cannot stay healthy. You're trading Vincent + Russell for LaVine. LaVine is an upgrade on Russell. Vincent can easily be replaced by Christie as your "plays defense and does nothing of note on offense."
The Bulls do it because they ditch LaVine's awful contract without attaching picks. They do have to take back Vando (long term salary) and Vincent (expires in 2026).
The Lakers upgrade without spending a first round pick. They're still not contenders, but you still have Rui, Christie, VM, picks to try to trade for someone up to ~$28M in salary |
I proposed this exact trade a few pages ago  |
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Looking at tox’s trade idea here what something that might work…
Lakers get LaVine and Kessler
Jazz get JHS / Duarte / Lakers 2029 pick / Bulls 1st round pick
3rd team gets Vincent and Hayes
Bulls get DLO/Vando/Max Lewis |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Imagine if we had Kyle Kuzma on this team instead of Rui “blackhole” Hachimura, let’s send Rui back to the Wizards |
Except Kuzma sucks, IG. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | Looking at tox’s trade idea here what something that might work…
Lakers get LaVine and Kessler
Jazz get JHS / Duarte / Lakers 2029 pick / Bulls 1st round pick
3rd team gets Vincent and Hayes
Bulls get DLO/Vando/Max Lewis |
No, IG, gotta stop this LaVine talk.
He’s owed $43, 45 and 48 million still.
He’s always hurt.
Does that sound like a smart trade to you?
The answer is NO! |
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tox
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| Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| levon wrote: | | tox wrote: | A trade that works:
Vincent/Vando/Russell/JHS
JHS is useless, Vando cannot stay healthy. You're trading Vincent + Russell for LaVine. LaVine is an upgrade on Russell. Vincent can easily be replaced by Christie as your "plays defense and does nothing of note on offense."
The Bulls do it because they ditch LaVine's awful contract without attaching picks. They do have to take back Vando (long term salary) and Vincent (expires in 2026).
The Lakers upgrade without spending a first round pick. They're still not contenders, but you still have Rui, Christie, VM, picks to try to trade for someone up to ~$28M in salary |
I proposed this exact trade a few pages ago |
I'm sure the Bulls would try to extract a FRP from Rob (wouldn't be surprised if he acquiesces given we gave one up for (bleep) Westbrook). I still don't really like the trade I'll be honest but it works. Still have a huge hole in terms of wing defense & backup C |
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| With Chet out 8-10 weeks, maybe OKC would be willing to absorb Hayes and Vincent or maybe they aim higher and try getting Poeltl |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| levon wrote: | | panamaniac wrote: | | If I can get Lavine with two first round picks attached in exchange for some combo of Dlo, Rui, Gabe, JHS I.e. guys I don’t intend to keep long term, then I’m making that trade all day. But if Chicago views Lavine as a positive asset then forget it. |
Why would Chicago attach two firsts to take back our garbage when they actually need picks to rebuild? Any trade involving LaVine would involve zero picks. |
Because his contract is horrendous, and no team has traded for him. Not saying it will happen but that’s what it would take. I’m guessing Chicago will bite the bullet. |
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| panamaniac wrote: | | levon wrote: | | panamaniac wrote: | | If I can get Lavine with two first round picks attached in exchange for some combo of Dlo, Rui, Gabe, JHS I.e. guys I don’t intend to keep long term, then I’m making that trade all day. But if Chicago views Lavine as a positive asset then forget it. |
Why would Chicago attach two firsts to take back our garbage when they actually need picks to rebuild? Any trade involving LaVine would involve zero picks. |
Because his contract is horrendous, and no team has traded for him. Not saying it will happen but that’s what it would take. I’m guessing Chicago will bite the bullet. |
If you need to attach picks to trade LaVine they will simply not trade him.
But some team desperate to improve will trade for him. That team might be the Lakers, if there aren't better options at the deadline. |
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