This team still lacks 2 way players to contend and those guys don't grow on trades or are easily available. Should have took notes from Clipps and Warriors who added guys like Kris Dunn, Derrick Jones Jr, Melton, Kyle Anderson. Those names aren't sexy enough.
I'm still saying we should be calling OKC to get their picks/back end young players for AD. Use LeBron (NYC, GS, Cavs)+Reaves+some of those picks if needed to get our 2025 1st back and 2027 1st back (or added protection)
This team is so flawed, Cam Reddish has "unlocked" the team twice now in 2 years. Rebuild.
Amen! We had two-way players in Caruso & KCP. I'll forever be on record as stating the ring window closed for AD & LeBron the moment they basically engineered the Westbrook trade.
They gave up assets & something they can't get back no matter what trade goes down: 2 wasted years.
A rebuild is not going to happen any time soon. Too much money coming in right now. OKC is in a position to scale up to downright scary.
We had two-way players in Caruso & KCP. I'll forever be on record as stating the ring window closed for AD & LeBron the moment they basically engineered the Westbrook trade.
Pretty much. We have bled all our depth away through sheer stupidity. Look at who we brought off the bench the title year. Caruso, KCP, Dwight, Kuzma and Rondo. Before we moved DLo to the bench because it was such a disaster, any one of those guys is better than anyone we have now. _________________ 14-5-3-12
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We had two-way players in Caruso & KCP. I'll forever be on record as stating the ring window closed for AD & LeBron the moment they basically engineered the Westbrook trade.
Pretty much. We have bled all our depth away through sheer stupidity. Look at who we brought off the bench the title year. Caruso, KCP, Dwight, Kuzma and Rondo. Before we moved DLo to the bench because it was such a disaster, any one of those guys is better than anyone we have now.
Both 2021 and 2022 were years with weak competition too. Even 2023. Nothing like last year.
If they had just run it back after 2020, used the MLE to re-sign Rondo, and used the pick they traded away for Schroeder on Desmond Bane like they were going to… Maybe the AD injury and Solomon Hill hit on LeBron still nerf us in 2021, but we still would have had a run or two left after that. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
We had two-way players in Caruso & KCP. I'll forever be on record as stating the ring window closed for AD & LeBron the moment they basically engineered the Westbrook trade.
Pretty much. We have bled all our depth away through sheer stupidity. Look at who we brought off the bench the title year. Caruso, KCP, Dwight, Kuzma and Rondo. Before we moved DLo to the bench because it was such a disaster, any one of those guys is better than anyone we have now.
Both 2021 and 2022 were years with weak competition too. Even 2023. Nothing like last year.
If they had just run it back after 2020, used the MLE to re-sign Rondo, and used the pick they traded away for Schroeder on Desmond Bane like they were going to… Maybe the AD injury and Solomon Hill hit on LeBron still nerf us in 2021, but we still would have had a run or two left after that.
They were never running it back because Green wanted out as he said on his podcast because crazy ass fans were sending his wife and kids mass death threats in LA … his family wanted out
Its similar to Drummond who said he hated the way fans would treat and talk to him on the internet and public in his time as a Laker
If we opt for a third (bleep) tour of Dennis Schroeder (this time by trading even more assets for him) I’m going to lose it. _________________ 14-5-3-12
If we opt for a third (bleep) tour of Dennis Schroeder (this time by trading even more assets for him) I’m going to lose it.
You have to admit it fit's the Rob Pelinka experience. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though."
Pro's: obviously AD and Bron playing at a high level. AR has looked good as has Hayes. Knecht has promise.
No change: Rui still too inconsistent and DLO although he's looked better off the bench. Cam is Cam.
Cons: Max has been awful and is till far away. Vincent at $11 million is a joke, sure he gives an effort on D but not $11 million worth.
Not rated: Vando and Woods
Obviously we need to make deals if we have any hope of being serious contenders. Everyone except AD and Bron should be expendable. You can also make an argument for AR staying. But everyone else is expendable. Especially Vincent and Max.
we need these 2 back in a hurry. i am interested to see what Wood would look like in the new offense.
Pro's: obviously AD and Bron playing at a high level. AR has looked good as has Hayes. Knecht has promise.
No change: Rui still too inconsistent and DLO although he's looked better off the bench. Cam is Cam.
Cons: Max has been awful and is till far away. Vincent at $11 million is a joke, sure he gives an effort on D but not $11 million worth.
Not rated: Vando and Woods
Obviously we need to make deals if we have any hope of being serious contenders. Everyone except AD and Bron should be expendable. You can also make an argument for AR staying. But everyone else is expendable. Especially Vincent and Max.
we need these 2 back in a hurry. i am interested to see what Wood would look like in the new offense.
Well you're going to have to wait....that bum is going to be re-evaluated in 4 more weeks. Unbelievable. Time to add Wood along with JHS, Max and Vincent on guys that should be moved immediately.
Pro's: obviously AD and Bron playing at a high level. AR has looked good as has Hayes. Knecht has promise.
No change: Rui still too inconsistent and DLO although he's looked better off the bench. Cam is Cam.
Cons: Max has been awful and is till far away. Vincent at $11 million is a joke, sure he gives an effort on D but not $11 million worth.
Not rated: Vando and Woods
Obviously we need to make deals if we have any hope of being serious contenders. Everyone except AD and Bron should be expendable. You can also make an argument for AR staying. But everyone else is expendable. Especially Vincent and Max.
we need these 2 back in a hurry. i am interested to see what Wood would look like in the new offense.
Well you're going to have to wait....that bum is going to be re-evaluated in 4 more weeks. Unbelievable. Time to add Wood along with JHS, Max and Vincent on guys that should be moved immediately.
Wood’s an immovable piece until he gets healthy, unfortunately. Possibly the same with Vando
As much as we hate to admit it, we’ve got a lot of deadwood on the team, as it stands _________________ #18 next...
If we opt for a third (bleep) tour of Dennis Schroeder (this time by trading even more assets for him) I’m going to lose it.
Why? He’d be a good fit next to Reaves and Rui
In hindsight, we 100% shouldn’t have prioritised Gabe over him
Bc we gave up a 1st (Desmond Bane) + Danny Green to acquire him only to lose him after one season.. for nothing. Then by luck, sign him to the minimum where he plays incredibly well - only to once again let him walk.. this time in favor of signing Gabe Vincent after his to 3.5 weeks of good basketball.
Now we expend more draft capital to acquire him? Pathetic GM'ing.
If we opt for a third (bleep) tour of Dennis Schroeder (this time by trading even more assets for him) I’m going to lose it.
Why? He’d be a good fit next to Reaves and Rui
In hindsight, we 100% shouldn’t have prioritised Gabe over him
Bc we gave up a 1st (Desmond Bane) + Danny Green to acquire him only to lose him after one season.. for nothing. Then by luck, sign him to the minimum where he plays incredibly well - only to once again let him walk.. this time in favor of signing Gabe Vincent after his to 3.5 weeks of good basketball.
Now we expend more draft capital to acquire him? Pathetic GM'ing.
Thankfully the Grizzles haven’t won a title since getting Bane and if Schroeder helps us win a title this year then no 1 will care
If we opt for a third (bleep) tour of Dennis Schroeder (this time by trading even more assets for him) I’m going to lose it.
Why? He’d be a good fit next to Reaves and Rui
In hindsight, we 100% shouldn’t have prioritised Gabe over him
Bc we gave up a 1st (Desmond Bane) + Danny Green to acquire him only to lose him after one season.. for nothing. Then by luck, sign him to the minimum where he plays incredibly well - only to once again let him walk.. this time in favor of signing Gabe Vincent after his to 3.5 weeks of good basketball.
Now we expend more draft capital to acquire him? Pathetic GM'ing.
Those are sunk costs. They've already happened and nothing can be done about that, but something can be done about the future.
If we opt for a third (bleep) tour of Dennis Schroeder (this time by trading even more assets for him) I’m going to lose it.
Why? He’d be a good fit next to Reaves and Rui
In hindsight, we 100% shouldn’t have prioritised Gabe over him
Bc we gave up a 1st (Desmond Bane) + Danny Green to acquire him only to lose him after one season.. for nothing. Then by luck, sign him to the minimum where he plays incredibly well - only to once again let him walk.. this time in favor of signing Gabe Vincent after his to 3.5 weeks of good basketball.
Now we expend more draft capital to acquire him? Pathetic GM'ing.
He’s also too small and streaky to be a reliable playoff performer against legitimate teams which is a lesson we have already learned twice. _________________ 14-5-3-12
Watching Duke/Kentucky tonight. This SG Duke has, Kon Knueppel, is a Devin Booker clone. I think he’s going to be great in the NBA.
Flagg for sure goes #1, but I think some fans will be disappointed bc he’s not the classic ball dominant #1 option. He’s more AD. But I think with more take it off the dribble game. The only issue I have with Flagg is that he’s already so fundamentally sound I’m not sure how much upside he really has left. He def looks far older than 17 and plays like a vet.
If we opt for a third (bleep) tour of Dennis Schroeder (this time by trading even more assets for him) I’m going to lose it.
Why? He’d be a good fit next to Reaves and Rui
In hindsight, we 100% shouldn’t have prioritised Gabe over him
Bc we gave up a 1st (Desmond Bane) + Danny Green to acquire him only to lose him after one season.. for nothing. Then by luck, sign him to the minimum where he plays incredibly well - only to once again let him walk.. this time in favor of signing Gabe Vincent after his to 3.5 weeks of good basketball.
Now we expend more draft capital to acquire him? Pathetic GM'ing.
Those are sunk costs. They've already happened and nothing can be done about that, but something can be done about the future.
Yep, just because we’ve had some poor GM decisions in the past regarding Dennis doesn’t mean a future move for him would be bad for the team _________________ #18 next...
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