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alleyoop
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Does a deal for Jerami Grant turn the wheel?
Edit: just saw this got brought up on the previous page, question still stands though haha
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| What would you guys offer for Shai? |
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anth2000
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Shai? Jerami Grant?
You guys need to put down the pipe.
Those guys are franchise players.
They aren’t being moved. |
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| Thank god we didn’t trade for Beal he looks damaged goods, Wizards got rid of him at the right time |
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| alleyoop wrote: | Does a deal for Jerami Grant turn the wheel?
Edit: just saw this got brought up on the previous page, question still stands though haha |
Probably cost you 1-2 of Reaves/Rui/Vando… They dont need DLO. |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Does a deal for Jerami Grant turn the wheel?
Edit: just saw this got brought up on the previous page, question still stands though haha |
Probably cost you 1-2 of Reaves/Rui/Vando… They dont need DLO. |
Probably gonna cost you the whole In-n-out chain and a lot more to get Portland to do business with us |
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rock0100
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Jerami Grant is NOT a franchise player.
If he were, he would be making more than $32 million per year.
That being said, he is better than Rui.
Rui, Gabe, and a future pick for a solid 3rd option would be great. |
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| I really hate how the Spurs aren’t treating Wemby like a franchise player they have let him play with players that are similar to a pile of poop, Vassell is the only 1 who has value on that team the others are worried about there stats they had a chance to bring in help for Wemby during the summer and they blew it |
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miggz23
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I really hate how the Spurs aren’t treating Wemby like a franchise player they have let him play with players that are similar to a pile of poop, Vassell is the only 1 who has value on that team the others are worried about there stats they had a chance to bring in help for Wemby during the summer and they blew it |
I think you dont have to worry about, Pop probably the last coach you want to question on how to handle a young talent. |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I really hate how the Spurs aren’t treating Wemby like a franchise player they have let him play with players that are similar to a pile of poop, Vassell is the only 1 who has value on that team the others are worried about there stats they had a chance to bring in help for Wemby during the summer and they blew it |
I think you dont have to worry about, Pop probably the last coach you want to question on how to handle a young talent. |
or old, for that matter! |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I really hate how the Spurs aren’t treating Wemby like a franchise player they have let him play with players that are similar to a pile of poop, Vassell is the only 1 who has value on that team the others are worried about there stats they had a chance to bring in help for Wemby during the summer and they blew it |
I think you dont have to worry about, Pop probably the last coach you want to question on how to handle a young talent. |
If I was a Spurs fan I would be worried about rather Pop is ready to handle young talent right now as opposed to 200 years ago when they drafted Duncan |
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| Quote: | | Bulls PR person tried to get Zach LaVine to stay on the court for the Post Game interview & Zach ignored her & pushes her away |
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https://twitter.com/iamvega1982/status/1726080564447334420
He comes off as such a drama queen. You are getting paid millions man. Act like a professional. |
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| eureca wrote: | | Quote: | | Bulls PR person tried to get Zach LaVine to stay on the court for the Post Game interview & Zach ignored her & pushes her away |
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https://twitter.com/iamvega1982/status/1726080564447334420
He comes off as such a drama queen. You are getting paid millions man. Act like a professional. |
What is this video even trying to suggest? LaVine doesn’t do anything |
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alleyoop
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| anth2000 wrote: | Shai? Jerami Grant?
You guys need to put down the pipe.
Those guys are franchise players.
They aren’t being moved. |
Grant might be the best on the Blazers, but he ain’t a genuine franchise guy lol
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| miggz23 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Does a deal for Jerami Grant turn the wheel?
Edit: just saw this got brought up on the previous page, question still stands though haha |
Probably cost you 1-2 of Reaves/Rui/Vando… They dont need DLO. |
I’d consider Rui/Reaves, tbh
PG: DLo/Vincent
SG: Reddish/Prince
SF: Grant/Vando
PF: Bron/Wood
C: AD/Hayes
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| alleyoop wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Does a deal for Jerami Grant turn the wheel?
Edit: just saw this got brought up on the previous page, question still stands though haha |
Probably cost you 1-2 of Reaves/Rui/Vando… They dont need DLO. |
I’d consider Rui/Reaves, tbh
PG: DLo/Vincent
SG: Reddish/Prince
SF: Grant/Vando
PF: Bron/Wood
C: AD/Hayes |
It would make the Denver matchup much more manageable for us.
But I don't think Portland would do it.
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| kikanga wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Does a deal for Jerami Grant turn the wheel?
Edit: just saw this got brought up on the previous page, question still stands though haha |
Probably cost you 1-2 of Reaves/Rui/Vando… They dont need DLO. |
I’d consider Rui/Reaves, tbh
PG: DLo/Vincent
SG: Reddish/Prince
SF: Grant/Vando
PF: Bron/Wood
C: AD/Hayes |
It would make the Denver matchup much more manageable for us.
But I don't think Portland would do it. |
Portland might do Rui, Vincent and a future 1st. |
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clutchkobe
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Toronto seems to be a treadmill team this season they will look good 1 night and then crap the bed the next game, there basically just like us why not go after Siakam? AD badly needs a big who will help him, Wood ain’t cutting it they also have some nice quality players we can use |
they need to go get williamson from the blazers....his big body would be perfect, |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| eureca wrote: | | Quote: | | Bulls PR person tried to get Zach LaVine to stay on the court for the Post Game interview & Zach ignored her & pushes her away |
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https://twitter.com/iamvega1982/status/1726080564447334420
He comes off as such a drama queen. You are getting paid millions man. Act like a professional. |
What are they celebrating? They are losing regularly. They got blown out to start and came back. Derozan and the FO are going back and forward over money. There’s nothing positive to say and even then the PR person has no right to grab him or grab at him to make him talk. He could have and should have cussed her out from grabbing at him
It’s the equivalent of Lin, Hill, and Young celebrating a win and Kobe going f them in his head.
Also, he knows what the Bulls problem is. He said it last year when Zo was hurt they needed a starting point guard and his request was the reason they pushed for Pat Bev. He was right and the team took off last year. They let Pat leave and got no point guard and are in the same spot they were in the year before. It’s like AD saying get me another for damn big and the team ignoring him, would piss you off. Here we are they need a PG because Caruso isn’t good enough to start or run a team. And Williams is not the starting 4 they need. They are half assing it. |
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| rock0100 wrote: | Jerami Grant is NOT a franchise player.
If he were, he would be making more than $32 million per year.
That being said, he is better than Rui.
Rui, Gabe, and a future pick for a solid 3rd option would be great. |
Rui's better at this stage of his career than Grant was at the same point in his own.
Grant only gets the numbers he does when he gets put on 20-30 win teams and told "shoot as much as you want" and doesn't effect winning.
On an actual contending team he'd be a 12-13 PPG scorer and a 4th or 5th option offensively, 3rd at highest.
Grant is an 18-22 point scorer on a team that has no intention of winning at all. He is a 12-13 PPG scorer on a team that wants to win.
We have Hachimura whom is better than Grant was at the same time in his career, playing the exact role Grant would be playing on a contending team and at $17M instead of $32M.
You don't give up jack squat for Grant if you already have Rui.
The Lakers also already have 3rd/4th scoring options. They're called D'Angelo Russell and Austin Reaves. Rui Hachimura can also be that when the team needs him to be.
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | eureca wrote: | | Quote: | | Bulls PR person tried to get Zach LaVine to stay on the court for the Post Game interview & Zach ignored her & pushes her away |
Video
https://twitter.com/iamvega1982/status/1726080564447334420
He comes off as such a drama queen. You are getting paid millions man. Act like a professional. |
What are they celebrating? They are losing regularly. They got blown out to start and came back. Derozan and the FO are going back and forward over money. There’s nothing positive to say and even then the PR person has no right to grab him or grab at him to make him talk. He could have and should have cussed her out from grabbing at him
It’s the equivalent of Lin, Hill, and Young celebrating a win and Kobe going f them in his head.
Also, he knows what the Bulls problem is. He said it last year when Zo was hurt they needed a starting point guard and his request was the reason they pushed for Pat Bev. He was right and the team took off last year. They let Pat leave and got no point guard and are in the same spot they were in the year before. It’s like AD saying get me another for damn big and the team ignoring him, would piss you off. Here we are they need a PG because Caruso isn’t good enough to start or run a team. And Williams is not the starting 4 they need. They are half assing it. |
What does that have to do with celebrating? Every single NBA team does post game walk off interviews. Specifically after wins. The PR person's job is to get the attention of the NBA player they need for the spot before they leave the court. It is childish to walk off after a win refusing a 1 minute interview. Lebron did his interview last night for the local network. AD does it often when Lebron is doing the national TV one. Kobe did it during the good and bad seasons. Nobody is asking Zach Lavine to act like Nick Young. |
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Championships seem like gold when you have a team that's struggling to even beat the bottom feeders. I remember back when Dr. Buss was still owner, we were like "Oh another championship? That's nice." Going into every season, we would have a realistic expectation of winning the championship. Now, I honestly don't know when we will win another championship.
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| I'm surprised the window has not closed on us by now. We are playing with house money. Hopefully we make that splash again when the time comes (I'm looking for fit instead of a big name). Lets enjoy being a contender while we can because it is inevitable that we are going to hit some dire times in the very near future. |
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| Japago wrote: | The Lakers have missed recently with Max Christie and THT. Not giving Matt Ryan a real chance might have been a mistake as well.
They did find Austin Reaves and Alex Caruso. It seems like the Lakers have done better with undrafted players than with drafted players.
The Lakers are missing the scouting that found Josh Hart, Larry Nance, Jordan Clarkson, and Kyle Kuzma. IIRC, Kuzma was the only guy found with the current scouting team. |
Disagree on giving guys a chance. I think they figure out what they can do and see if they are in plans or not. Not retaining Caruso is the only glaring mistake I see.
Still early on Max Christie.
As for the Matt Ryans of the world, we have seen that movie 5 million times. The pressure of putting on the Lakers jersey impacts the players. It doesn’t matter the name, you can decrease at least 5% to 3 point shooting pct when these guys put a Laker jersey on. We are seeing it with Taurean Prince and Gabe Vincent. Prince made all his 3s vs. the Lakers when he was with the Hawks and Wolves. Puts on a Laker jersey, and the bricks begin. |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | I'm surprised the window has not closed on us by now. We are playing with house money. Hopefully we make that splash again when the time comes (I'm looking for fit instead of a big name). Lets enjoy being a contender while we can because it is inevitable that we are going to hit some dire times in the very near future. |
What is the splash? Maybe picking up Tyrus Jones (#27 PG) from Washington?
We have starters. We have depth.
G Dangelo (#13 PG). Gabe (#51 PG).
G/F Austin (#25 SG). Cam (#51 SG). Max (#83 SG).
F Lebron (#1 SF). Taurean (#52 SF).
F/C Rui (#30 PF). Christian (#41 PF).
C Anthony (#4 C). Jaxson (#71 C).
I'd rather see Jarred back with the starters before making a move for mid players like Jerami Grant (#17 PF), Myles Turner (#13 C), etc. |
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