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| hype wrote: | | gng930 wrote: |
As much as we argued over this, I'm genuinely surprised too. They must have really been unimpressed by Koloko/Jemison and it seems both got a fair shot over several games as the season winded down. |
In all honesty, if we're talking just occasionally and for a few minutes here and there I trust Morris over all three. If Maxi is much more than a worthless corpse at any point in these Playoffs he likely is as well. I would have rather had Jemison over Lin but i'd prefer to avoid them altogether if possible which is what i'm guessing the Coaching staff thought as well. |
Jemison has stone hands and Koloko looks lost on the court. I believe Koloko is under contract for another year, so he'll get a chance to prove himself in SPL and in camp. We're Jemison's 4th team in 2 seasons, but I'd bring him back on another 2-way.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | hype wrote: | | gng930 wrote: |
As much as we argued over this, I'm genuinely surprised too. They must have really been unimpressed by Koloko/Jemison and it seems both got a fair shot over several games as the season winded down. |
In all honesty, if we're talking just occasionally and for a few minutes here and there I trust Morris over all three. If Maxi is much more than a worthless corpse at any point in these Playoffs he likely is as well. I would have rather had Jemison over Lin but i'd prefer to avoid them altogether if possible which is what i'm guessing the Coaching staff thought as well. |
Jemison has stone hands and Koloko looks lost on the court. I believe Koloko is under contract for another year, so he'll get a chance to prove himself in SPL and in camp. We're Jemison's 4th team in 2 seasons, but I'd bring him back on another 2-way. |
I agree, they're both worth giving another chance next Season. Jemison is the kind of big that's just nice to have at the end of the bench regardless as he's always ready and ready to play hard but i'd love to see some improvement even if i'm not expecting it. Without Maxi and Morris, Jemison is likely hanging out at the end of the bench instead so maybe that happens next Season? That's a good quick summary of Koloko as I thought he was going to end the Season surpassing Jemison once he got some burn but he just didn't look ready at all. I really hope he goes all out this Summer because I can see the makings of a decent big man in there somewhere and he's still only 24. |
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| hype wrote: | | gng930 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | SPO200 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Can someone please clarify....neither Koloko or Jemison is eligible for the playoffs correct? Since Len was kept? |
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Insanity. |
It really is. I don't care who we play, who's in foul trouble, who's injured. Len shouldn't see one second of action. He was -15 in 14 minutes. He's a -1 sitting on the bench! Just dreadful! |
As much as we argued over this, I'm genuinely surprised too. They must have really been unimpressed by Koloko/Jemison and it seems both got a fair shot over several games as the season winded down. |
In all honesty, if we're talking just occasionally and for a few minutes here and there I trust Morris over all three. If Maxi is much more than a worthless corpse at any point in these Playoffs he likely is as well. I would have rather had Jemison over Lin but i'd prefer to avoid them altogether if possible which is what i'm guessing the Coaching staff thought as well. |
That's what I'm guessing...I think they settled on Len ultimately because of the guaranteed contract but also because he happens to be the most veteran and most immovable option and represented an archetype gap.
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| gng930 wrote: | | hype wrote: | | gng930 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | SPO200 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Can someone please clarify....neither Koloko or Jemison is eligible for the playoffs correct? Since Len was kept? |
Yeah, that's right |
Insanity. |
It really is. I don't care who we play, who's in foul trouble, who's injured. Len shouldn't see one second of action. He was -15 in 14 minutes. He's a -1 sitting on the bench! Just dreadful! |
As much as we argued over this, I'm genuinely surprised too. They must have really been unimpressed by Koloko/Jemison and it seems both got a fair shot over several games as the season winded down. |
In all honesty, if we're talking just occasionally and for a few minutes here and there I trust Morris over all three. If Maxi is much more than a worthless corpse at any point in these Playoffs he likely is as well. I would have rather had Jemison over Lin but i'd prefer to avoid them altogether if possible which is what i'm guessing the Coaching staff thought as well. |
That's what I'm guessing...I think they settled on Len ultimately because of the guaranteed contract but also because he happens to be the most veteran and most immovable option and represented an archetype gap. |
I agree with both of you. Morris is the better of all those bigs even though I don't think he does much defensively but he is a tough vet. And guaranteed money is why Len stayed. But I would not bring back either Koloko or Jemison. They had enough time to impress and they did not. If you want to develop someone bring in Kai Jones next year. And of course try to sign or trade for a real big to go along with Hayes. |
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| hype wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | hype wrote: | | gng930 wrote: |
As much as we argued over this, I'm genuinely surprised too. They must have really been unimpressed by Koloko/Jemison and it seems both got a fair shot over several games as the season winded down. |
In all honesty, if we're talking just occasionally and for a few minutes here and there I trust Morris over all three. If Maxi is much more than a worthless corpse at any point in these Playoffs he likely is as well. I would have rather had Jemison over Lin but i'd prefer to avoid them altogether if possible which is what i'm guessing the Coaching staff thought as well. |
Jemison has stone hands and Koloko looks lost on the court. I believe Koloko is under contract for another year, so he'll get a chance to prove himself in SPL and in camp. We're Jemison's 4th team in 2 seasons, but I'd bring him back on another 2-way. |
I agree, they're both worth giving another chance next Season. Jemison is the kind of big that's just nice to have at the end of the bench regardless as he's always ready and ready to play hard but i'd love to see some improvement even if i'm not expecting it. Without Maxi and Morris, Jemison is likely hanging out at the end of the bench instead so maybe that happens next Season? That's a good quick summary of Koloko as I thought he was going to end the Season surpassing Jemison once he got some burn but he just didn't look ready at all. I really hope he goes all out this Summer because I can see the makings of a decent big man in there somewhere and he's still only 24. |
Koloko and Jameson prob one of the better 2-way bigs in the league, no brainer keeper
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Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
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| King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
I doubt the extra money to convert Koloko would have been a factor, it wasn't even 6 figures. JJ gave Koloko and Jemison more minutes but he had to give them to someone and you might as well give it to the guys who haven't gotten their big bag yet. Prefers might be a strong word. That's like asking me how I'd prefer to be executed. I'd rather just maintain the status quo.
Otherwise, in terms of the archetypes:
Rim-runner: Hayes
Versatile spacer: Kleber
Stout and physical: Kief
Taller bulk: ???
They almost literally just needed a stiff and Len was the closest thing.
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| gng930 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
I doubt the extra money to convert Koloko would have been a factor, it wasn't even 6 figures. JJ gave Koloko and Jemison more minutes but he had to give them to someone and you might as well give it to the guys who haven't gotten their big bag yet. Prefers might be a strong word. That's like asking me how I'd prefer to be executed. I'd rather just maintain the status quo.
Otherwise, in terms of the archetypes:
Rim-runner: Hayes
Versatile spacer: Kleber
Stout and physical: Kief
Taller bulk: ???
They almost literally just needed a stiff and Len was the closest thing. |
One thing for sure Len is a stiff. I don't think Kleber is coming back at all honestly. Missed way too much time and now you possibly throw him in playoff games? I don't even think Kief will play. It's Hayes and then small ball with DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron. |
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Pretty crazy to see the Suns will be paying Frank and Mike’s contracts for the next 3+ years at least, while looking to hire another coach.
It is the right move though. And sometimes you got to swallow that loss for the sake of bettering the team.
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| Megaton wrote: | Pretty crazy to see the Suns will be paying Frank and Mike’s contracts for the next 3+ years at least, while looking to hire another coach.
It is the right move though. And sometimes you got to swallow that loss for the sake of bettering the team. |
We were doing the same thing the last couple of years, actually we have been firing coaches left and right while paying coaches ever since Phil left, thank goodness JJ ended up being a diamond in the rough
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
It was clear to me weeks ago when they stopped playing Jemison/Koloko completely and played Vando exclusively as the backup 5 that they weren't going to waive Len.
I think Rob feels he owes it to Len to keep him on the roster due to the nature in which they signed him (Len was on the verge of signing with Indiana before we swooped in). I think Rob is making a political decision here.
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| King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
Bad take. Had the Lakers waived Len on Saturday and signed Koloko, it would've cost them the princely sum of fifteen thousand dollars.
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| gng930 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
I doubt the extra money to convert Koloko would have been a factor, it wasn't even 6 figures. JJ gave Koloko and Jemison more minutes but he had to give them to someone and you might as well give it to the guys who haven't gotten their big bag yet. Prefers might be a strong word. That's like asking me how I'd prefer to be executed. I'd rather just maintain the status quo.
Otherwise, in terms of the archetypes:
Rim-runner: Hayes
Versatile spacer: Kleber
Stout and physical: Kief
Taller bulk: ???
They almost literally just needed a stiff and Len was the closest thing. |
I think it’s realistically simple explanation wise
Koloko and Jemison are on two ways and will be on the team next season as two ways entering free agency. The lakers can covert them in the offseason or during the regular season.
Len is a vet and a placeholder. In the playoffs he’s 6 fouls and he’s 6 fouls that the refs will allow to give 6 fouls compared to two way guys. But realistically, Markieff will be used before him. JJ has dusted Markieff off in the pacers, nuggets, and blazer game for that reason. He will be used if a spot is needed. Kleiber will also be used if they get to a third round for if a spot is needed. So essentially the Lakers were choosing to rely on Markieff and Kleiber in a spot over Jemison and Koloko knowing they can retain those two this summer around the margins cap wise
The lakers haven’t given out their third two way either, they waited to the end to convert Goodwin. |
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| Lakeshow23_ wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
It was clear to me weeks ago when they stopped playing Len/Koloko completely and played Vando exclusively as the backup 5 that they weren't going to waive Len.
I think Rob feels he owes it to Len to keep him on the roster due to the nature in which they signed him (Len was on the verge of signing with Indiana before we swooped in). I think Rob is making a political decision here. |
Rob is making a business decision that any agent knows he should make. Len was offered a pacers deal before he signed in LA. If you cut him and he’s only off eligible it’s bad business. And relationships do matter, case and point getting Luka when no one else had a relationship with the guy dealing him |
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| Megaton wrote: | Pretty crazy to see the Suns will be paying Frank and Mike’s contracts for the next 3+ years at least, while looking to hire another coach.
It is the right move though. And sometimes you got to swallow that loss for the sake of bettering the team. |
They actually have another year to pay on Monty’s deal too they said on FS1 😂🤣 so paying 4 coaches |
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | Lakeshow23_ wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
It was clear to me weeks ago when they stopped playing Len/Koloko completely and played Vando exclusively as the backup 5 that they weren't going to waive Len.
I think Rob feels he owes it to Len to keep him on the roster due to the nature in which they signed him (Len was on the verge of signing with Indiana before we swooped in). I think Rob is making a political decision here. |
Rob is making a business decision that any agent knows he should make. Len was offered a pacers deal before he signed in LA. If you cut him and he’s only off eligible it’s bad business. And relationships do matter, case and point getting Luka when no one else had a relationship with the guy dealing him |
Len gets paid the same amount either way and doesn’t play either way. The favor would be cutting him loose from this embarrassing farce to allow him to go on an early vacation instead of traveling with the Lakers while being glued to the bench. Everyone knows he isn’t good enough to get on the floor and won’t be in the rotation. Rob isn’t so much building relationships as cracking up a ship run—-again. There’s no excuse not to sign Koloko.
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | Lakeshow23_ wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
It was clear to me weeks ago when they stopped playing Len/Koloko completely and played Vando exclusively as the backup 5 that they weren't going to waive Len.
I think Rob feels he owes it to Len to keep him on the roster due to the nature in which they signed him (Len was on the verge of signing with Indiana before we swooped in). I think Rob is making a political decision here. |
Rob is making a business decision that any agent knows he should make. Len was offered a pacers deal before he signed in LA. If you cut him and he’s only off eligible it’s bad business. And relationships do matter, case and point getting Luka when no one else had a relationship with the guy dealing him |
Len gets paid the same amount either way and doesn’t play either way. The favor would be cutting him loose from this embarrassing farce to allow him to go on an early vacation instead of traveling with the Lakers while being glued to the bench. Everyone knows he isn’t good enough to get on the floor and won’t be in the rotation. Rob isn’t so much building relationships as cracking up a ship run—-again. There’s no excuse not to sign Koloko. |
It’s not about pay. It’s about you signed him and then you don’t release him when he’s not eligible to sign with any playoff team, when he gave up a spot on a playoff team to come to you.
Koloko also isn’t signed because he fd around and played poorly. He wasn’t a guy who earned playing his 2 way days out and being converted. It’s on him because Goodwin earned his spot. Koloko let Jemison come in and one point out work him. So it’s on him. They may as well let them spend this whole playoff run practicing, watching film, and then in a summer gym and let them earn deals next year.
Is Len good? No. Is Koloko worth an nba deal right now or better than Rui, Hayes, Vando, Smith, or Bron at Center? Hell no.
If Koloko and Jemison had brains they would both be playing their ass off against Hayes and learning from Markieff. Their goal should be to be Javale and Zaza |
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| Lakeshow23_ wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
It was clear to me weeks ago when they stopped playing Len/Koloko completely and played Vando exclusively as the backup 5 that they weren't going to waive Len.
I think Rob feels he owes it to Len to keep him on the roster due to the nature in which they signed him (Len was on the verge of signing with Indiana before we swooped in). I think Rob is making a political decision here. |
This has been my train of thought.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
Bad take. Had the Lakers waived Len on Saturday and signed Koloko, it would've cost them the princely sum of fifteen thousand dollars. |
$15,000 isn't much you're right but also the fact that Len was on the way to Indiana and when the Williams deal was rescinded Rob ran to Len and begged him to sign here. Rob wasn't going to waive Len after that. And truth be told the Lakers don't believe Koloko or Jemison would be used in the playoffs. They both have been less than impressive. That's just a fact. |
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| King Randle wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
Bad take. Had the Lakers waived Len on Saturday and signed Koloko, it would've cost them the princely sum of fifteen thousand dollars. |
$15,000 isn't much you're right but also the fact that Len was on the way to Indiana and when the Williams deal was rescinded Rob ran to Len and begged him to sign here. Rob wasn't going to waive Len after that. And truth be told the Lakers don't believe Koloko or Jemison would be used in the playoffs. They both have been less than impressive. That's just a fact. |
Sign Morris as a consultant or assistant coach to keep him around if necessary, but waive him, or Len, or maybe even Shake…one of them….but don’t go to the playoffs with just Hayes as the only playable C listed on the roster. Just don’t do it…not just relying on Len, nor on the hope of Kleber or the possibility of Kief…sign Koloko or Jemison or Moses or anybody just in case for the price. That is if committed competently to a ship. If not…well…just roll the dice with just Hayes being always available and/or small ball, it may work and if it doesn’t then well so what huh?!?!
I am concerned we’ll see the same type of lack of commitment/competence by the FO going forward with Luka on the roster since it seems to be a theme with Rob. I just have to hope the players/coaches over come the apparent lack of commitment/competency or that it changes.
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
Bad take. Had the Lakers waived Len on Saturday and signed Koloko, it would've cost them the princely sum of fifteen thousand dollars. |
$15,000 isn't much you're right but also the fact that Len was on the way to Indiana and when the Williams deal was rescinded Rob ran to Len and begged him to sign here. Rob wasn't going to waive Len after that. And truth be told the Lakers don't believe Koloko or Jemison would be used in the playoffs. They both have been less than impressive. That's just a fact. |
Sign Morris as a consultant or assistant coach to keep him around if necessary, but waive him, or Len, or maybe even Shake…one of them….but don’t go to the playoffs with just Hayes as the only playable C listed on the roster. Just don’t do it…not just relying on Len, nor on the hope of Kleber or the possibility of Kief…sign Koloko or Jemison or Moses or anybody just in case for the price. That is if committed competently to a ship. If not…well…just roll the dice with just Hayes being always available and/or small ball, it may work and if it doesn’t then well so what huh?!?!
I am concerned we’ll see the same type of lack of commitment/competence by the FO going forward with Luka on the roster since it seems to be a theme with Rob. I just have to hope the players/coaches over come the apparent lack of commitment/competency or that it changes. |
Agree with a lot of your takes. I do think Rob will get the necessary pieces to make Luka's time here successful. He did try with Williams although that's not the guy I would've targeted. And he placed a call regarding Duren. Duren I like. But for certain Rob screwed up by not taking a shot with Moses Brown, Kai Jones or Bamba after the Williams debacle. |
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
Bad take. Had the Lakers waived Len on Saturday and signed Koloko, it would've cost them the princely sum of fifteen thousand dollars. |
$15,000 isn't much you're right but also the fact that Len was on the way to Indiana and when the Williams deal was rescinded Rob ran to Len and begged him to sign here. Rob wasn't going to waive Len after that. And truth be told the Lakers don't believe Koloko or Jemison would be used in the playoffs. They both have been less than impressive. That's just a fact. |
Sign Morris as a consultant or assistant coach to keep him around if necessary, but waive him, or Len, or maybe even Shake…one of them….but don’t go to the playoffs with just Hayes as the only playable C listed on the roster. Just don’t do it…not just relying on Len, nor on the hope of Kleber or the possibility of Kief…sign Koloko or Jemison or Moses or anybody just in case for the price. That is if committed competently to a ship. If not…well…just roll the dice with just Hayes being always available and/or small ball, it may work and if it doesn’t then well so what huh?!?!
I am concerned we’ll see the same type of lack of commitment/competence by the FO going forward with Luka on the roster since it seems to be a theme with Rob. I just have to hope the players/coaches over come the apparent lack of commitment/competency or that it changes. |
Markieff played a quick section of minutes vs the Pacers before Luka debuted and with Bron out for JJ. 6 minutes 3 points and a whole lot of switching and staying in front of people. Then he played real minutes against the Nuggets and scored 7 points, 5 Rebs, 3 assists, and held Joker to 1/4 on his times he matched up with him. Then he played real minutes vs the Bucks and got 9 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and Giannis was 2/5 against him and Brook 1/3. Markieff got real minutes last night and went 11 points, 4 rebounds, 6 assists.
Markieff is the last person you should say cut because Bron, Luka, etc all trust him. When he’s gotten minutes he has been fine defensively. He’s also won before and isn’t afraid of anyone or any shot. He came in shape that wasn’t great because as he said Dallas told him the past 3 years don’t expect to play, we won’t list you as a coach but we want you to scout, practice with guys, and help the young teammates and watch out for them. He’s come here and gotten in progressive shape from when he came and still has more game in his dad bod than Koloko, Len, or Jemison. |
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Kblo247!
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| King Randle wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Koloko 5 blocks yesterday is more than anything Len has shown since we picked him up.
I don’t know one good reason why Len wasn’t waived. Jj clearly prefers Koloko/Jemison over him. |
Totally agree. It's like a poster mentioned. The guaranteed money Len has coming. The FO prefers to save that $ and not offer a contract to Koloko. Theyll go Hayes, DFS, Rui, Vando and Bron as their bigs. |
Bad take. Had the Lakers waived Len on Saturday and signed Koloko, it would've cost them the princely sum of fifteen thousand dollars. |
$15,000 isn't much you're right but also the fact that Len was on the way to Indiana and when the Williams deal was rescinded Rob ran to Len and begged him to sign here. Rob wasn't going to waive Len after that. And truth be told the Lakers don't believe Koloko or Jemison would be used in the playoffs. They both have been less than impressive. That's just a fact. |
Sign Morris as a consultant or assistant coach to keep him around if necessary, but waive him, or Len, or maybe even Shake…one of them….but don’t go to the playoffs with just Hayes as the only playable C listed on the roster. Just don’t do it…not just relying on Len, nor on the hope of Kleber or the possibility of Kief…sign Koloko or Jemison or Moses or anybody just in case for the price. That is if committed competently to a ship. If not…well…just roll the dice with just Hayes being always available and/or small ball, it may work and if it doesn’t then well so what huh?!?!
I am concerned we’ll see the same type of lack of commitment/competence by the FO going forward with Luka on the roster since it seems to be a theme with Rob. I just have to hope the players/coaches over come the apparent lack of commitment/competency or that it changes. |
Agree with a lot of your takes. I do think Rob will get the necessary pieces to make Luka's time here successful. He did try with Williams although that's not the guy I would've targeted. And he placed a call regarding Duren. Duren I like. But for certain Rob screwed up by not taking a shot with Moses Brown, Kai Jones or Bamba after the Williams debacle. |
Bamba sucks. He didn’t take being here serious and didn’t produce. He signed with the Sixers who have an often injured center and didn’t play well or take it serious. He went to the clippers who didn’t want him. He’s bounced around. He’s not productive. Hell he produced 2.5 points for the Pelicans and wasn’t productive there either
Nothing or no one you’re naming is more productive than Hayes, Bron, Rui, DFS, and Vando at center
In fact them at center has worked over Sengun, Towns, AD, Joker, and others |
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