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Black20Ice
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 Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:31 am Post subject: Tiger Woods turned down offer in 'neighborhood' of $700-$800 million when approached to join LIV Golf |
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Tiger Woods turned down offer in 'neighborhood' of $700-$800 million when approached to join LIV Golf, Greg Norman says
| Quote: | "The R&A obviously have their opinions and their rulings and their decision," Woods said. "Greg has done some things that I don't think is in the best interest of our game, and we're coming back to probably the most historic and traditional place in our sport. I believe it's the right thing."
Woods was also critical of players who have left the PGA Tour for LIV Golf, which is being financed by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund. LIV Golf has lured several players, including past major champions Dustin Johnson, Bryson DeChambeau, Phil Mickelson and Brooks Koepka, to the new tour with guaranteed contracts reportedly worth between $100 million and $200 million, in addition to prize money at each event.
"I disagree with it," Woods said. "I think that what they've done is they've turned their back on what has allowed them to get to this position." |
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/34330962/tiger-woods-turned-offer-neighborhood-700-800-million-approached-join-liv-golf-greg-norman-says |
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It may come to something like AFC vs NFC. May make golf more competitive.
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| I'm sure the PGA is thankful for him to not join LIV golf, but I doubt Tiger could've played much if he would've joined. It would mostly be symbolic gesture towards getting the public to accept the league. |
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| jodeke wrote: | | It may come to something like AFC vs NFC. May make golf more competitive. |
More like the XFL versus the NFL.
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | I'm sure the PGA is thankful for him to not join LIV golf, but I doubt Tiger could've played much if he would've joined. It would mostly be symbolic gesture towards getting the public to accept the league. |
Bingo. Tiger isn't the golfer he used to be, but still carries that strong name recognition that would draw in the crowds and drive up ratings.
Pretty amazing to see anyone turning down that kind of money, but I guess that there is proof that not everyone can be bought. Regardless of his reasons, good on Tiger for not selling out to the highest bidder. |
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| Tiger is very much concerned about his legacy and I don't blame him, particularly after his image took such a gigantic fall after the infidelity scandal and that resulting fallout. He has largely managed to rebuild his standing, I think, to the point where he's now thought of as a guy who has overcome serious health challenges just to play again, and of course the Masters win was incredible. So he has more to lose with a potential move like this. And of course, he's already so rich that this wouldn't materially change his life. Now, if you're Dustin Johnson, he has less to lose by taking the money and his life does materially change from taking the money. |
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So that league has no corporate sponsors, no fans (with the exception of the MAGA idiots at Trump's golf course/cemetery), no TV deal. How is that sustainable? I know the Saudis have unlimited funds, but are they going to play in front of nobody for years?
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Tiger is very much concerned about his legacy and I don't blame him, particularly after his image took such a gigantic fall after the infidelity scandal and that resulting fallout. He has largely managed to rebuild his standing, I think, to the point where he's now thought of as a guy who has overcome serious health challenges just to play again, and of course the Masters win was incredible. So he has more to lose with a potential move like this. And of course, he's already so rich that this wouldn't materially change his life. Now, if you're Dustin Johnson, he has less to lose by taking the money and his life does materially change from taking the money. |
I'm sure his legacy is a huge part of it. But he also mentioned some issues of substance in regards to not going to the LIV that involve the integrity of the game itself and what the expectations should be as far as actually running a pro golf tournament.
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| Wilt wrote: | | So that league has no corporate sponsors, no fans (with the exception of the MAGA idiots at Trump's golf course/cemetery), no TV deal. How is that sustainable? I know the Saudis have unlimited funds, but are they going to play in front of nobody for years? |
1 billion dollars per day of income from oil exports. The golf league might cost them a billion or two to run per year.....you do the math. |
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I'm aware that they have money. But I'm sure they want some kind of interest from the public that is not ridicule.
Are they hoping the PGA will eventually feel the pressure of increasing numbers of players leaving to enter into some kind of partnership?
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| Wilt wrote: | I'm aware that they have money. But I'm sure they want some kind of interest from the public that is not ridicule.
Are they hoping the PGA will eventually feel the pressure of increasing numbers of players leaving to enter into some kind of partnership? |
Don't think they care about a partnership. Its a league where they control. It might just be something where they control a property which isn't centered around American ownership. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Tiger is very much concerned about his legacy and I don't blame him, particularly after his image took such a gigantic fall after the infidelity scandal and that resulting fallout. He has largely managed to rebuild his standing, I think, to the point where he's now thought of as a guy who has overcome serious health challenges just to play again, and of course the Masters win was incredible. So he has more to lose with a potential move like this. And of course, he's already so rich that this wouldn't materially change his life. Now, if you're Dustin Johnson, he has less to lose by taking the money and his life does materially change from taking the money. |
I'm sure his legacy is a huge part of it. But he also mentioned some issues of substance in regards to not going to the LIV that involve the integrity of the game itself and what the expectations should be as far as actually running a pro golf tournament. |
Sure. I guess what I'm saying is, when you're on the Mount Rushmore of your sport, you're going to be very concerned with your legacy and doing something that will be seen by most in a negative light, particularly when you've already been down that road once and had your mostly pristine public image shattered. That said, if Tiger somehow had financial problems and was "only" worth $100MM, let's say, and they offered him $800MM, perhaps it would be a different story. Perhaps it wouldn't be, who knows.
In fact, Tiger, in turning down the money, gets even better publicity. He comes out of it looking more noble. As if the players that took the money are somehow less noble. They aren't. Not because of that choice, anyway. Not in my opinion. |
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| Tiger might have simply been physically unable to perform for the price they were going to give him. Don't forget Tiger barely plays in any PGA Tour events as is because of his injuries. He only saves himself for the majors these days and might use a PGA Tour event as prep. Him taking the Saudi money would remove that freedom for him to dictate what events he wants to play. |
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I'm sure there was a catch to all this we don't know about it....
There's something about all this I don't trust. |
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| Amazing if he really turned down that kind of money, but good on him. |
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I don't think Eldrige needs the money. IMO he's attempting to preserve an age-old American tradition. How much of America are we going to relinquish?
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| There's no reason both tours can't flourish. It's the PGA Tour that's shooting themselves in the foot by banning players that want to play in LIV events. |
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| aol.com? bro |
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LIV has been building a decent roster. They have:
The winner of last years Genesis
The winner of last years Players Championship
The winner of last years Open Championship
The winners of 4 of the last 7 US Opens
The winner of the Covid Masters
The winner of the 2021 PGA Championship
The winner of last years Houston Open
The winners of last years QBE shootout
The winner of last years RSM Classic
The winner of last years Sentry Tournament of champions |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | LIV has been building a decent roster. They have:
The winner of last years Genesis
The winner of last years Players Championship
The winner of last years Open Championship
The winners of 4 of the last 7 US Opens
The winner of the Covid Masters
The winner of the 2021 PGA Championship
The winner of last years Houston Open
The winners of last years QBE shootout
The winner of last years RSM Classic
The winner of last years Sentry Tournament of champions |
And yet drew fewer viewers than a silly animal show. 
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | LIV has been building a decent roster. They have:
The winner of last years Genesis
The winner of last years Players Championship
The winner of last years Open Championship
The winners of 4 of the last 7 US Opens
The winner of the Covid Masters
The winner of the 2021 PGA Championship
The winner of last years Houston Open
The winners of last years QBE shootout
The winner of last years RSM Classic
The winner of last years Sentry Tournament of champions |
The problem is the LIV brand and their golf tournaments have no history. Also notice that most of your winners are associated with winning on the PGA tour. |
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They are just a media company now. |
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| Wilt wrote: | I'm aware that they have money. But I'm sure they want some kind of interest from the public that is not ridicule.
Are they hoping the PGA will eventually feel the pressure of increasing numbers of players leaving to enter into some kind of partnership? |
Buying Big Names to promote Saudi Arabia without having to say anything about Saudi Arabia.
I think it is advertising saying look we aren't a backwards ass Islamic Dictatorship.. these stars like/support us |
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