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| If he wasn’t a Laker, it would have been just the standard 1 game suspension. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | If he wasn’t a Laker, it would have been just the standard 1 game suspension. |
More like if he didn’t have a history of bull (bleep) cheap shots on other players (particularly ones with their backs turned) it would have been a 1 game suspension.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | If he wasn’t a Laker, it would have been just the standard 1 game suspension. |
More like if he didn’t have a history of bull (bleep) cheap shots on other players (particularly ones with their backs turned) it would have been a 1 game suspension. |
I legit don’t know his history of suspensions, has he ever got more than 1 game? I do know he has shoved people in the back plenty of times  |
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ocho
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | If he wasn’t a Laker, it would have been just the standard 1 game suspension. |
More like if he didn’t have a history of bull (bleep) cheap shots on other players (particularly ones with their backs turned) it would have been a 1 game suspension. |
I legit don’t know his history of suspensions, has he ever got more than 1 game? I do know he has shoved people in the back plenty of times |
He got 1 game for shoving Paul in the back. Makes sense that if he keeps doing stuff like that the penalty will get worse each time.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | If he wasn’t a Laker, it would have been just the standard 1 game suspension. |
More like if he didn’t have a history of bull (bleep) cheap shots on other players (particularly ones with their backs turned) it would have been a 1 game suspension. |
I legit don’t know his history of suspensions, has he ever got more than 1 game? I do know he has shoved people in the back plenty of times |
He got 1 game for shoving Paul in the back. Makes sense that if he keeps doing stuff like that the penalty will get worse each time. |
I disagree, but whatever because he was playing like (bleep) so it helps the Lakers if this means guys like Reaves and Christie play more. If it’s Nunn, then nothing really changes lol. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The severity of Patrick Beverley’s three-game suspension is due to his accumulation of unsportsmanlike acts. It is the eighth time he has either been suspended or fined. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | If he wasn’t a Laker, it would have been just the standard 1 game suspension. |
Nah, I think it was a cheap shot. Could have really injured Ayton, similar to when he pushed Chris Paul in the back.
When you don’t see it coming, could be potentially harmful. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Great way to keep AR in the starting lineup.
Good move, Pat.
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For those interested in the economics……
For suspensions of this length, lost salary is 1/145 of the player’s annual salary. At $13 million that’s $269k in lost salary for Bev, which will go to charities of the NBPA’s choosing. It also offers a luxury tax credit of $134.4K to the Lakers (half of the lost salary). The Lakers are currently $20.11M into the tax, with an estimated tax bill of $45.4M. The band $20M and up comes at $3.75 for every $1. That’s a Luxury tax savings of about $500k for the Lakers!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | The severity of Patrick Beverley’s three-game suspension is due to his accumulation of unsportsmanlike acts. It is the eighth time he has either been suspended or fined. |
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How many games did Jokic get for basically ending Morris's season with his back check?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | The severity of Patrick Beverley’s three-game suspension is due to his accumulation of unsportsmanlike acts. It is the eighth time he has either been suspended or fined. |
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How many games did Jokic get for basically ending Morris's season with his back check? |
You mean Jokic the mvp, best player on his team, NBA golden boy? 1 game suspension of course |
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| Those plays are dirty, and dangerous. When the guy's back is turned. Joker should have gotten 2. Pat should have gotten at least 2, 3 is harsh, but you can defend your teammate without doing it where the guy's back is turned. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | The severity of Patrick Beverley’s three-game suspension is due to his accumulation of unsportsmanlike acts. It is the eighth time he has either been suspended or fined. |
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How many games did Jokic get for basically ending Morris's season with his back check? |
Was it the 8th time that Jokic had been suspended or fined? Of course I don’t expect an answer because we already know it.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | The severity of Patrick Beverley’s three-game suspension is due to his accumulation of unsportsmanlike acts. It is the eighth time he has either been suspended or fined. |
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How many games did Jokic get for basically ending Morris's season with his back check? |
I wasn’t even mad at Jokic for that. The dirty move Markieff did on him right before that could have ended his season too. |
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| How many games did CP3 get for undercutting Lebron after a missed free throw almost ending Lebron's career? |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Treble Clef wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | The severity of Patrick Beverley’s three-game suspension is due to his accumulation of unsportsmanlike acts. It is the eighth time he has either been suspended or fined. |
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How many games did Jokic get for basically ending Morris's season with his back check? |
I wasn’t even mad at Jokic for that. The dirty move Markieff did on him right before that could have ended his season too. |
Was it dirtier than what Booker did to Schroeder or Grayson Allen did to Caruso?
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| Trade him, nunn and a 1st + 2nd for turner already |
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| Trade him, nunn and a 1st + 2nd for turner already |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| keep this guy benched when he comes back |
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | For those interested in the economics……
For suspensions of this length, lost salary is 1/145 of the player’s annual salary. At $13 million that’s $269k in lost salary for Bev, which will go to charities of the NBPA’s choosing. It also offers a luxury tax credit of $134.4K to the Lakers (half of the lost salary). The Lakers are currently $20.11M into the tax, with an estimated tax bill of $45.4M. The band $20M and up comes at $3.75 for every $1. That’s a Luxury tax savings of about $500k for the Lakers! |
~$270k shhhhheeeesssshhh at those prices my teammates can defend themselves! 🤣🤣🤣 |
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With all due respect to Pat Bev, he should not be integrated back into the starting lineup, nor the bench unit. His only role with this team going forward should be that of the Jared Dudley variety. If I see Pat Bev getting meaningful playing minutes...so help me, god!... 
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His offense hasn't been good. Bev on defense this year:
Opponent eFG% on/off: 6th best on the team
Opponent FT Rate on/off: 4th best
Opponent TOV Rate on/off: 2nd best
Opponent OReb Rate on/off: 2nd best
He's the only guy on the roster with good values in all 4 areas.
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Not surprisingly (given results in those 4 factors), LA's defense has found more success when Beverley has been on-court than off-court.
It hasn't been a luck-driven 3PT% or FT% thing either.
In D-SPI, that adjusts for luck, he grades out behind only Carter & Caruso among PGs.
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Individually he's had impressive data also:
He's 1st on the team (by far) in Matchup Difficulty.
Despite that, among 2022-23 players w/250+ MP:
- 92nd %ile On-Ball D (4th on team)
- 79th %ile Ball Screen Navigation (2nd on team)
- 87th %ile Off-Ball Chaser D (2nd on team)
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His offense has been very bad (higher shot quality like some other Lakers would help a bit there), to the point his overall impact is neutral.
His offense stinks, but I wouldn't go so far to say he brings nothing. I see the D impact shine through regularly on film. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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I know people are hating on his early shooting woes.
But he's been hitting 3s lately and he's back up to 33%.
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